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k3n705
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada134 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2921
What a truly disappointing state PvZ has become; all-in every game, hits before infestors: win, after: lose. Is there really going to be another three months of this..?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2922
On December 22 2012 20:16 KingOfNoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:14 dainbramage wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 Crazypyro1 wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:12 kheldorin wrote:
Morale of the story: Whiners should stop whining. In the end, they are always WRONG!


Moral of the story: When you get ahead, get more ahead and try not to kill your opponent when you already used your amazing push to get the lead.


Killing a hatchery then going home doesn't put you ahead.


It does if you stay a little while to delay third while getting your own third and teching up.


What league are you?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2923
On December 22 2012 20:17 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:14 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 Flonomenalz wrote:
Incredible LR.

Life holds with incredible tenacity, and the same Protosses that were just saying "amazing forcefields" are right back to "lol winfestors kill everything".


Standard LR, both sides whine and then there's the people whining about the whining.

Making an objective comment is whining about whining?

I'm just here to talk about the games son.

As am I, I wasn't saying you are one of people whining, I was describing that this isn't really that incredible of an LR at all.

Also 'son', really? D:

I got sonned by someone under half my age once. It hurt, man. You need to be 50+ to get away with that shit.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2924
On December 22 2012 20:16 tomatriedes wrote:
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On December 22 2012 20:12 Nadril wrote:
Amazing. A zerg doesn't try to hold his 3rd base and doesn't try to run headfirst into forcefields with ling/roach and holds the push and then wins the game.


This isn't the first game I've seen this, another zerg (can't remember who) won against Hero after giving up his third, massing infestors then retaking it. As long as the drones are moved from the third early and they don't throw away units they'll end up ahead. Most zergs are just too stubborn about trying to save the third though.


It was Leenock against HerO.

Play your best
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2925
On December 22 2012 20:17 k3n705 wrote:
What a truly disappointing state PvZ has become; all-in every game, hits before infestors: win, after: lose. Is there really going to be another three months of this..?

blizzard clearly said there is nothing wrong here, move along scum
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-22 11:19:12
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2926
On December 22 2012 20:15 Doko wrote:
That game was hilariously awesome
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haha that's a great representation of immortal sentry all in
get rich or die mining
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Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2927
On December 22 2012 20:16 Noc- wrote:
See? All the retards and zerg tears who thought this game needs to be nerfed just because one player makes one build perfectly with godly micro. Because fuck thinking and figuring the actual way to defend it, QQ'ing is so much more fun! Like there hasn't been any powerful builds before, which needed time to figure out how to defend them.

WHOAH LIFE DEFENDED, what do you say now?

People have beaten bl+infestor plenty of times...>_>
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2928
On December 22 2012 20:16 silent_owl wrote:
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On December 22 2012 20:14 SolidMoose wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 ACrow wrote:
Where are the Z whiners that claimed the WonWonWon was unstoppable? Hm? I thought so...


I don't even play zerg and that looks hard as hell to hold if not done perfectly


It took a GSL champion to hold it. And a GSL champion just lost to it a round ago. Anyway, PvZ man. I'll stop complaining.

Great play from both players. Nice hold by Life. I wasn't sure if he could transition out of it but great engagement to kill the first colo. That was huge.


Rather:
"It took a GSL champion to hold an all-in from a double World Champion and the best Protoss player in the world at the moment."

That's a more accurate description.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2929
On December 22 2012 20:16 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:14 SolidMoose wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 ACrow wrote:
Where are the Z whiners that claimed the WonWonWon was unstoppable? Hm? I thought so...


I don't even play zerg and that looks hard as hell to hold if not done perfectly


It took a GSL champion to hold it. And a GSL champion just lost to it a round ago. Anyway, PvZ man. I'll stop complaining.

Great play from both players. Nice hold by Life. I wasn't sure if he could transition out of it but great engagement to kill the first colo. That was huge.


He held it from the skin of his teeth. I doubt it will work the second time.. because it looked like as if parting was sort of confused for sometime til he decided to elevator. I think he should have done it earlier from the get go instead of brute forcing into spines.
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2930
On December 22 2012 20:16 KingOfNoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:14 dainbramage wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 Crazypyro1 wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:12 kheldorin wrote:
Morale of the story: Whiners should stop whining. In the end, they are always WRONG!


Moral of the story: When you get ahead, get more ahead and try not to kill your opponent when you already used your amazing push to get the lead.


Killing a hatchery then going home doesn't put you ahead.


It does if you stay a little while to delay third while getting your own third and teching up.


no you arent ahead at all. zerg has infestors out and protoss no splash. when u try to take a third the zerg will just throw a million infested terrans at you and even if you have 1 colossus out by that time it is going to be super difficult to defend the third base.
Progamer
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2931
On December 22 2012 20:16 Megabuster123 wrote:
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On December 22 2012 20:14 Fjodorov wrote:
I think Partings fall in that game is that he considers his push an all in when it really isnt. He is almost guaranteed to kill the third, and if he would just fall back and take his own third he would be ahead.

If he could do that and be ahead PvZ would most likely be broken. You actually can't afford to do that, You have to kill the zerg with it, otherwise your tech becomes outdated and you have nothing to answer for the swarm of units coming for you immediately afterwards.

Yeah infested terrans can kill you if you don't have aoe
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2932
--- Nuked ---
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
December 22 2012 11:18 GMT
#2933
On December 22 2012 20:13 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:10 xAdra wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:08 silent_owl wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:05 xAdra wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:01 silent_owl wrote:
On December 22 2012 19:59 Sc2Null wrote:
On December 22 2012 19:58 namste wrote:
On December 22 2012 19:57 Lorning wrote:
Is is wrong for me to say that PartinG is the Bisu of SC2? :p
(Revolutionist)


Someone will probably lynch you for that, but I agree with you.


doing the same all-in in the same matchup doesn't make you a revolutionist, it just makes you a bit-by-bit without the scvs


This. Bisu created a safe opening with multiple tech branches. Parting made one entire build and made sure everyone would see it everytime in his and every other Toss's games against Z. That ain't a revolution, it seems like a new kind of fascist regime for Toss players.

Do you prefer to try going lategame and die to Broodlord infestor? For those QQing:
1) this build was made to avoid the incredibly overpowered zerg lategame.
2) no one executes this build as well as parting.
3) this is totally counterable, and not relying on coinflips like Protoss vs infestorbroodlord
4) at least its much more interesting than snoozefest of lategame PvZ knowing the Z will win anyways.
5) yes, we know there shouldnt be unbeatable builds. too bad. #hoping for hots


Lol. You seem quite offended as well. I think both late PvZ and this mid-game immortal-sentry all-in are stupid. And as good as Parting is (I do believe he's a good player), he ain't no revolutionist.

Why go around assuming others are offended and pretending that you won an argument? I just responded to you, and you respond by saying exactly what I said in my post.


Okay, okay. Take it easy. Sorry, I misread your post. Anyway, it's still my opinion that I just don't like either of these scenarios. And it just irritates me to have to see this or the other case in every PvZ. Plus, most of my negativity was in response to these claims that Parting is some sort of revolutionist (in the vein of Bisu). Well, he's an amazing player but he isn't a revolutionist.

Still watching the games though. Cheers.


wink smiley smiley smiley
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
December 22 2012 11:19 GMT
#2934
On December 22 2012 20:14 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:13 Altenotiz wrote:
1. Make Infestors
2. ???
3. Win


1. Make Infestors
2. Micro everything you have
3. Play well
4. Counter-attack
5. Play well
6. Win

Edit: We may not like watching Infestors, but Life did not "just make infestors" that game. He held well with more than that.

"Hey, life deserved to win. He played amazingly well".

Yeah, it's funny though. When parting plays like a god (the god*), he wins because immortal/sentry is imba, but when Life wins a game with infestor/ling, people shouldn't be allowed to go "infestors imba"? Zerg bias at its best :D
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 22 2012 11:19 GMT
#2935
On December 22 2012 20:16 Noc- wrote:
See? All the retards and zerg tears who thought this game needs to be nerfed just because one player makes one build perfectly with godly micro. Because fuck thinking and figuring the actual way to defend it, QQ'ing is so much more fun! Like there hasn't been any powerful builds before, which needed time to figure out how to defend them.

WHOAH LIFE DEFENDED, what do you say now?


the point is not that it is undefetable, come on, no one is buying Parting's trash talk. but when you win 90% of the time when your opponent scouts what you are doing at the perfect time, then it needs to be talked about. I am of the opinion that if you know an all-in is coming and prepare for it well, you should crush it. if you can't, the match-up becomes broken. I'm a toss player, right now the matchup is 100 PERCENT based around this build. that's not good.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4553 Posts
December 22 2012 11:19 GMT
#2936
On December 22 2012 20:18 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:17 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:15 Flonomenalz wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:14 Cokefreak wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 Flonomenalz wrote:
Incredible LR.

Life holds with incredible tenacity, and the same Protosses that were just saying "amazing forcefields" are right back to "lol winfestors kill everything".


Standard LR, both sides whine and then there's the people whining about the whining.

Making an objective comment is whining about whining?

I'm just here to talk about the games son.

As am I, I wasn't saying you are one of people whining, I was describing that this isn't really that incredible of an LR at all.

Also 'son', really? D:

I got sonned by someone under half my age once. It hurt, man. You need to be 50+ to get away with that shit.

tfw when so emotionally shaken you call someone their seed.
hi. big fan.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
December 22 2012 11:19 GMT
#2937
On December 22 2012 20:17 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 20:16 silent_owl wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:14 SolidMoose wrote:
On December 22 2012 20:13 ACrow wrote:
Where are the Z whiners that claimed the WonWonWon was unstoppable? Hm? I thought so...


I don't even play zerg and that looks hard as hell to hold if not done perfectly


It took a GSL champion to hold it. And a GSL champion just lost to it a round ago. Anyway, PvZ man. I'll stop complaining.

Great play from both players. Nice hold by Life. I wasn't sure if he could transition out of it but great engagement to kill the first colo. That was huge.


A GSL champion to combat with another GSL champion? Holy shit batman, somebody give this man an award.


LOL! Sure, I could use one. And your reply doesn't make sense. It took someone like Life to hold against it ONE TIME. Sniper (a GSL champion himself) couldn't hold it given multiple opportunities.

Life against Sniper? Are you high or something? What are you talking about, man?
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
December 22 2012 11:19 GMT
#2938
On December 22 2012 20:15 Corrosive wrote:
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On December 22 2012 20:15 Lovedoll wrote:
I really want to know what DnB track this is. They've played it very often lately and I love it every time it comes on.

Camo and Krooked - Cliffhanger

Thank you very much!
Spread your eggs until they crack!
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
December 22 2012 11:19 GMT
#2939
On December 22 2012 20:12 Scholes wrote:
So inmortal all ins counter is rush to infestor

you seem surprised
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 22 2012 11:19 GMT
#2940
holy shit, an interview mid series? thats weird.
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