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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 14 2012 12:35 GMT
#1261
On December 14 2012 21:33 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:29 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:27 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


Haha. Curious is like the furthest thing from a patch zerg. He has been a solid ro32 code S zerg since forever, and his skill has neither declined nor increased tbh.

He went undefeated when he won Code A O_o


Every player has their one run. Its just variance.

I was agreeing with you about him not being a patchzerg


Aight, couldn't remember when the patch came out, people have been whining about zergs for so long the GSL seasons are a blur.

Curious won code a in 2011 in the old format so waayyyyyy before the patch
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
December 14 2012 12:35 GMT
#1262
Roaches are a lot more expensive than drones. It's better to snipe Roaches than drones.

Why mess around in the Zerg's natural or third when you have juicy targets out in the open?
My strategy is to fork people.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 14 2012 12:35 GMT
#1263
Queuing up collosus
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
December 14 2012 12:36 GMT
#1264
On December 14 2012 21:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On December 14 2012 21:30 sitromit wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


So now Curious, the only player to win Code A without dropping a single map when it was still its own tournament, is a patchzerg?

OK...


Everybody is a patchzerg. I'm a patchzerg too, my PvT got a lot better after the queen buff.

Haha this is Genius
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 12:36:39
December 14 2012 12:36 GMT
#1265
On December 14 2012 21:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:33 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:29 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:27 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


Haha. Curious is like the furthest thing from a patch zerg. He has been a solid ro32 code S zerg since forever, and his skill has neither declined nor increased tbh.

He went undefeated when he won Code A O_o


Every player has their one run. Its just variance.

I was agreeing with you about him not being a patchzerg


Aight, couldn't remember when the patch came out, people have been whining about zergs for so long the GSL seasons are a blur.

Curious won code a in 2011 in the old format so waayyyyyy before the patch


Yup, I think it was before Summer 2011...I think it was before qxc all-killing IM in fact...wow that is so long ago

Edit: Or was that puzzle that I'm thinking that won Code A that season?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 14 2012 12:36 GMT
#1266
On December 14 2012 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:
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On December 14 2012 21:07 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.


mkp mvp mma gumiho polt


mkp has superb micro but awful multtasking. If you watched some of his GSL games, in particular the ones where he tried to do a hellion drop in the main followed by a bio attack at the natural against a zerg opponent, people were bming him on his poor control and how he shouldn't try to multitask his micro so much.

Mvp's micro is definitely not as good as fantasy's despite being quite good. Go find me a game where mvp does all the things fantasy did in his games against roro. Mvp's mech heavy playstyle is much easier to multitask with than fantasy's bio heavy playstyle. When zerg counter-attacks its much easier to defend with stationary defenses than bio. If you watch his games in GSL against leenock, he lost because his bio play couldn't stand up to leenock's heavy counter-attack play. Simply he couldn't multitask and micro well enough.

Gumiho has really subpar micro but great multitasking. He hits you everywhere at once but doesn't micro. Wolf mentions this in some of his gsl games

Polt has awful multitasking. His macro isn't really even that much better than fantasy's especially considering he is doing less actions when not macroing. Polt is known not to be a very mechanical player, albeit he does have great control. He mostly wins by outsmarting his opponents

MMA has great multitasking and good micro. However he rose to fame beating zergs who weren't particularly good at multitasking. Even DRG, who despite being great at multitasking, did not use it very much against terrans.

The bottomline is, other than maybe MMA, non of the players you mentioned are better at BOTH multitasking and microing than fantasy. This is especially true when it comes to doing both at the same time. They mostly either do one of the other. Also take into consideration that fantasy is doing all this against roro, a player that is known for his multitasking. Obv he's going to look a lot sloppier when his opponent actually responds to his attacks appropriately. Even with his atrocious macro, he still came out ahead in most of the engagements in game 1 and 2 against Roro. That obviously means he controlled his army quite well, because he couldn't have had more units.


Heroooooooooooooooo

Page 57 is past btw.
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 12:36:49
December 14 2012 12:36 GMT
#1267
charge + collosus timing + some archons
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 14 2012 12:36 GMT
#1268
Genius' force fields are so impressive
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
December 14 2012 12:36 GMT
#1269
ah, i think the mutas are so smart!
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1270
Wow 20 mutalisks. I think Curious won.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1271
mutas are not gonna be good for the timing Genius is going for lol.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1272
I don't know why genius loves zealots against roaches so much
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1273
Mutas??? Hmm, I don't know how this will work. What upgrades does Genius have?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1274
Well, that should be game. :-/
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1275
On December 14 2012 21:36 andaylin wrote:
charge + collosus timing + some archons


Sounds like a good build. Did he get double upgrades and shields? That's my special build I pull out in Bo3+ series.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1276
On December 14 2012 21:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S5 Code A Ro24
Genius vs Curious
Game 3
Map: Cloud Kingdom

0:00
Genius spawns in the bottom left
Curious spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for Curious
forge first for Genius
pylon block at the natural of Curious

3:00
pylon canceled
nexus for Genius
hatch for Curious
cannon for Genius
Gateway for Genius

4:00
3rd for Curious
double gas for Genius
Cybernetics core for Genius

5:00
zealot for Genius
sentry for Genius
Stargate for Genius
double gas for Curious

6:00 and 7:00
phoenixes for Genius
+1 attack for Genius
roach warren for Curious
evo chamber for Curious
Lair for Curious
3 more gates for Genius
2 more gas for Curious
ling speed for Curious

8:00
macro hatch for Curious
Genius hiding his phoenixes until the 4th comes out
Robo for Genius
+1 range attack started for Curious
roach speed started for Curious

9:00
Genius sees roaches moving across the map so he sends his phoenixes home
spores started for Curious
+1 armor started for Genius
3rd base started for Genius

10:00
Robotics bay started for Geinus
extra queens coming out for Curious to defend against phoenixes
twilight council started for Genius
queen picked off by the phoenixes
+1 melee started for Curious

11:00
colossus production started for Genius
extended thermal lance research started for Genius
ling roach attack at the 3rd of Genius
Genius holds it off and saves all of his sentries
+2 attack started for Genius

12:00
spire finishing up for Curious
charge research started for Genius
4th finishes for Curious
+2 melee started for Curious
4 more gates for Genius
+1 air attack started for Curious

13:00
Genius is 10 supply ahead after holding the attack
Templar archives startedf or Genius
20 mutas coming out for Curious
ling runby to the 3rd of Genius
forcefield holds all the lings in
5th base started for Genius
Genius only has 4 stalkers and 4 phoenixes for anti air

14:00
20 mutas flying out now
Genius starts pushing out on the map
first HTs are on the map
roach runby at the 3rd of Genius
20 mutas fly into Genius's natural
Genius going for the base race
warp prism finishes for Genius
mutas are killing tons of probes
phoenixes try to fight the mutas

15:00
archons fighting the mutas mid map
natural of Curious falls
more mutas coming out for Curious
natural nexus falling to mutas
colossi clear out the 3rd of Curious
drones all move to the 5th
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1277
I fucking love this PvZ!
The curse is real
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1278
Genius' army stuck in a bad place now.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
December 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1279
Well that's kinda a huge problem when 20 Mutas fly into your natural and you had no idea about it previously.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 14 2012 12:39 GMT
#1280
On December 14 2012 21:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:07 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.


mkp mvp mma gumiho polt


mkp has superb micro but awful multtasking. If you watched some of his GSL games, in particular the ones where he tried to do a hellion drop in the main followed by a bio attack at the natural against a zerg opponent, people were bming him on his poor control and how he shouldn't try to multitask his micro so much.

Mvp's micro is definitely not as good as fantasy's despite being quite good. Go find me a game where mvp does all the things fantasy did in his games against roro. Mvp's mech heavy playstyle is much easier to multitask with than fantasy's bio heavy playstyle. When zerg counter-attacks its much easier to defend with stationary defenses than bio. If you watch his games in GSL against leenock, he lost because his bio play couldn't stand up to leenock's heavy counter-attack play. Simply he couldn't multitask and micro well enough.

Gumiho has really subpar micro but great multitasking. He hits you everywhere at once but doesn't micro. Wolf mentions this in some of his gsl games

Polt has awful multitasking. His macro isn't really even that much better than fantasy's especially considering he is doing less actions when not macroing. Polt is known not to be a very mechanical player, albeit he does have great control. He mostly wins by outsmarting his opponents

MMA has great multitasking and good micro. However he rose to fame beating zergs who weren't particularly good at multitasking. Even DRG, who despite being great at multitasking, did not use it very much against terrans.

The bottomline is, other than maybe MMA, non of the players you mentioned are better at BOTH multitasking and microing than fantasy. This is especially true when it comes to doing both at the same time. They mostly either do one of the other. Also take into consideration that fantasy is doing all this against roro, a player that is known for his multitasking. Obv he's going to look a lot sloppier when his opponent actually responds to his attacks appropriately. Even with his atrocious macro, he still came out ahead in most of the engagements in game 1 and 2 against Roro. That obviously means he controlled his army quite well, because he couldn't have had more units.


Heroooooooooooooooo

Page 57 is past btw.


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