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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 14 2012 12:30 GMT
#1241
How many seasons in a row has curious been in code s?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
December 14 2012 12:30 GMT
#1242
On December 14 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:
So, I managed to saw down two christmas trees in the forest, walk them back to our cabin, shovel all the snow down to the beach and all the snow on our terrace, and GSL is not over.

Judging from Khaldor, these previous two sets were awesome?


Weird games. Definitely not standard. So yes, they were entertaining
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 14 2012 12:30 GMT
#1243
On December 14 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:
So, I managed to saw down two christmas trees in the forest, walk them back to our cabin, shovel all the snow down to the beach and all the snow on our terrace, and GSL is not over.

Judging from Khaldor, these previous two sets were awesome?

How long is your beard?
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 14 2012 12:30 GMT
#1244
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


So now Curious, the only player to win Code A without dropping a single map when it was still its own tournament, is a patchzerg?

OK...
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
December 14 2012 12:31 GMT
#1245
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


I lol'ed. Hope you're joking about this
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 14 2012 12:31 GMT
#1246
On December 14 2012 21:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S5 Code A Ro24
Genius vs Curious
Game 3
Map: Cloud Kingdom

0:00
Genius spawns in the bottom left
Curious spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for Curious
forge first for Genius
pylon block at the natural of Curious

3:00
pylon canceled
nexus for Genius
hatch for Curious
cannon for Genius
Gateway for Genius

4:00
3rd for Curious
double gas for Genius
Cybernetics core for Genius

5:00
zealot for Genius
sentry for Genius
Stargate for Genius
double gas for Curious
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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 12:32:00
December 14 2012 12:31 GMT
#1247
--- Nuked ---
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 14 2012 12:31 GMT
#1248
On December 14 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:
So, I managed to saw down two christmas trees in the forest, walk them back to our cabin, shovel all the snow down to the beach and all the snow on our terrace, and GSL is not over.

Judging from Khaldor, these previous two sets were awesome?


Yeah your run-of-the-mill Genius GSL games. Something happens, followed up by something half-assed, followed up by something awesome, followed up by something strange and unexpected into GG.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 14 2012 12:31 GMT
#1249
On December 14 2012 21:29 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:27 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


Haha. Curious is like the furthest thing from a patch zerg. He has been a solid ro32 code S zerg since forever, and his skill has neither declined nor increased tbh.

He went undefeated when he won Code A O_o


Every player has their one run. Its just variance.

I was agreeing with you about him not being a patchzerg
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 14 2012 12:32 GMT
#1250
On December 14 2012 21:30 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


So now Curious, the only player to win Code A without dropping a single map when it was still its own tournament, is a patchzerg?

OK...


Everybody is a patchzerg. I'm a patchzerg too, my PvT got a lot better after the queen buff.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 14 2012 12:32 GMT
#1251
On December 14 2012 21:30 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:
So, I managed to saw down two christmas trees in the forest, walk them back to our cabin, shovel all the snow down to the beach and all the snow on our terrace, and GSL is not over.

Judging from Khaldor, these previous two sets were awesome?

How long is your beard?

Average Norwegian length.

Meaning, it covers my nipples.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
December 14 2012 12:32 GMT
#1252
On December 14 2012 21:31 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:
So, I managed to saw down two christmas trees in the forest, walk them back to our cabin, shovel all the snow down to the beach and all the snow on our terrace, and GSL is not over.

Judging from Khaldor, these previous two sets were awesome?


Yeah your run-of-the-mill Genius GSL games. Something happens, followed up by something half-assed, followed up by something awesome, followed up by something strange and unexpected into GG.

ROFL, so damn true
Know thyself.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 12:33:43
December 14 2012 12:32 GMT
#1253
On December 14 2012 21:30 bo1b wrote:
How many seasons in a row has curious been in code s?

6
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/GOMTV_Global_StarCraft_II_League/Code_S_Streaks
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 14 2012 12:33 GMT
#1254
On December 14 2012 21:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:29 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:27 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:26 Azzur wrote:
I consider Curious a patchzerg and his patchzerg skills were showing in that game he should've easily won


Haha. Curious is like the furthest thing from a patch zerg. He has been a solid ro32 code S zerg since forever, and his skill has neither declined nor increased tbh.

He went undefeated when he won Code A O_o


Every player has their one run. Its just variance.

I was agreeing with you about him not being a patchzerg


Aight, couldn't remember when the patch came out, people have been whining about zergs for so long the GSL seasons are a blur.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 14 2012 12:33 GMT
#1255
On December 14 2012 21:07 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.


mkp mvp mma gumiho polt


mkp has superb micro but awful multtasking. If you watched some of his GSL games, in particular the ones where he tried to do a hellion drop in the main followed by a bio attack at the natural against a zerg opponent, people were bming him on his poor control and how he shouldn't try to multitask his micro so much.

Mvp's micro is definitely not as good as fantasy's despite being quite good. Go find me a game where mvp does all the things fantasy did in his games against roro. Mvp's mech heavy playstyle is much easier to multitask with than fantasy's bio heavy playstyle. When zerg counter-attacks its much easier to defend with stationary defenses than bio. If you watch his games in GSL against leenock, he lost because his bio play couldn't stand up to leenock's heavy counter-attack play. Simply he couldn't multitask and micro well enough.

Gumiho has really subpar micro but great multitasking. He hits you everywhere at once but doesn't micro. Wolf mentions this in some of his gsl games

Polt has awful multitasking. His macro isn't really even that much better than fantasy's especially considering he is doing less actions when not macroing. Polt is known not to be a very mechanical player, albeit he does have great control. He mostly wins by outsmarting his opponents

MMA has great multitasking and good micro. However he rose to fame beating zergs who weren't particularly good at multitasking. Even DRG, who despite being great at multitasking, did not use it very much against terrans.

The bottomline is, other than maybe MMA, non of the players you mentioned are better at BOTH multitasking and microing than fantasy. This is especially true when it comes to doing both at the same time. They mostly either do one of the other. Also take into consideration that fantasy is doing all this against roro, a player that is known for his multitasking. Obv he's going to look a lot sloppier when his opponent actually responds to his attacks appropriately. Even with his atrocious macro, he still came out ahead in most of the engagements in game 1 and 2 against Roro. That obviously means he controlled his army quite well, because he couldn't have had more units.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 14 2012 12:33 GMT
#1256
On December 14 2012 21:31 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:
So, I managed to saw down two christmas trees in the forest, walk them back to our cabin, shovel all the snow down to the beach and all the snow on our terrace, and GSL is not over.

Judging from Khaldor, these previous two sets were awesome?


Yeah your run-of-the-mill Genius GSL games. Something happens, followed up by something half-assed, followed up by something awesome, followed up by something strange and unexpected into GG.

Sounds like a good game. I like somewhat sloppy games!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
December 14 2012 12:34 GMT
#1257
On December 14 2012 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:07 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.


mkp mvp mma gumiho polt


mkp has superb micro but awful multtasking. If you watched some of his GSL games, in particular the ones where he tried to do a hellion drop in the main followed by a bio attack at the natural against a zerg opponent, people were bming him on his poor control and how he shouldn't try to multitask his micro so much.

Mvp's micro is definitely not as good as fantasy's despite being quite good. Go find me a game where mvp does all the things fantasy did in his games against roro. Mvp's mech heavy playstyle is much easier to multitask with than fantasy's bio heavy playstyle. When zerg counter-attacks its much easier to defend with stationary defenses than bio. If you watch his games in GSL against leenock, he lost because his bio play couldn't stand up to leenock's heavy counter-attack play. Simply he couldn't multitask and micro well enough.

Gumiho has really subpar micro but great multitasking. He hits you everywhere at once but doesn't micro. Wolf mentions this in some of his gsl games

Polt has awful multitasking. His macro isn't really even that much better than fantasy's especially considering he is doing less actions when not macroing. Polt is known not to be a very mechanical player, albeit he does have great control. He mostly wins by outsmarting his opponents

MMA has great multitasking and good micro. However he rose to fame beating zergs who weren't particularly good at multitasking. Even DRG, who despite being great at multitasking, did not use it very much against terrans.

The bottomline is, other than maybe MMA, non of the players you mentioned are better at BOTH multitasking and microing than fantasy. This is especially true when it comes to doing both at the same time. They mostly either do one of the other. Also take into consideration that fantasy is doing all this against roro, a player that is known for his multitasking. Obv he's going to look a lot sloppier when his opponent actually responds to his attacks appropriately. Even with his atrocious macro, he still came out ahead in most of the engagements in game 1 and 2 against Roro. That obviously means he controlled his army quite well, because he couldn't have had more units.


It's way past page 57
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 14 2012 12:34 GMT
#1258
On December 14 2012 21:33 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:31 shabby wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:29 KristofferAG wrote:
So, I managed to saw down two christmas trees in the forest, walk them back to our cabin, shovel all the snow down to the beach and all the snow on our terrace, and GSL is not over.

Judging from Khaldor, these previous two sets were awesome?


Yeah your run-of-the-mill Genius GSL games. Something happens, followed up by something half-assed, followed up by something awesome, followed up by something strange and unexpected into GG.

Sounds like a good game. I like somewhat sloppy games!


You'll enjoy the VODs from this series, I think. Just don't watch fantasy roro.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
December 14 2012 12:34 GMT
#1259
oh man genius totally panicked seeing those roaches, this could have hardly gone better for curtious
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 14 2012 12:34 GMT
#1260
On December 14 2012 21:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S5 Code A Ro24
Genius vs Curious
Game 3
Map: Cloud Kingdom

0:00
Genius spawns in the bottom left
Curious spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for Curious
forge first for Genius
pylon block at the natural of Curious

3:00
pylon canceled
nexus for Genius
hatch for Curious
cannon for Genius
Gateway for Genius

4:00
3rd for Curious
double gas for Genius
Cybernetics core for Genius

5:00
zealot for Genius
sentry for Genius
Stargate for Genius
double gas for Curious

6:00 and 7:00
phoenixes for Genius
+1 attack for Genius
roach warren for Curious
evo chamber for Curious
Lair for Curious
3 more gates for Genius
2 more gas for Curious
ling speed for Curious

8:00
macro hatch for Curious
Genius hiding his phoenixes until the 4th comes out
Robo for Genius
+1 range attack started for Curious
roach speed started for Curious

9:00
Genius sees roaches moving across the map so he sends his phoenixes home
spores started for Curious
+1 armor started for Genius
3rd base started for Genius

10:00
Robotics bay started for Geinus
extra queens coming out for Curious to defend against phoenixes
twilight council started for Genius
queen picked off by the phoenixes
+1 melee started for Curious
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