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[Code A] RO24 Day 3 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 54

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Starting page 57, any tangent that can be construed as SC2 vs BW will be bannable
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 14 2012 12:01 GMT
#1061
Genius just playing with his food, tbh. He will follow this up with an awkward attack and win.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 14 2012 12:01 GMT
#1062
On December 14 2012 20:59 GreyKnight wrote:
allin on the best ZvP map lolololol


Mind games! :p
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 14 2012 12:01 GMT
#1063
On December 14 2012 20:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S5 Code A Ro24
Genius vs Code A Lord Curious
Game 1
Map: Abyssal City

Genius spawns to the right
Curious spawns to the left

2:00
pool first for Curious
Forge first for Genius
Hatch for Curious
Nexus for Genius

3:00
cannon for Genius
gateway for Genius
gas for Curious

4:00
3rd base for Curious
Genius scouts the 3rd
double gas for Genius
Cybernetics core for Genius
zealot for Genius

5:00
ling speed for Curious
Roach warren for Curious
stalker for Genius
Stargate for Genius

6:00
Roach and ling production for Curious
sentry for Genius
phoenix production started for Genius

7:00
lings catch a stalker on the map
phoenix scouts the roaches coming
3 more cannons for Genius
Roaches begin attacking
forcefield blocks the units out

8:00
probes are pulled to block the entrance
cannons start finishing
another forcefield goes down but roaches can still get through
void ray on the way
5 cannons are done
3 roaches get into the main
probes in the main are pulled to defend

9:00
phoenix killing overlords
roaches are cleaned up
supply is even -- Genius lost 21 workers but he's still up by 2
+1 attack started for Genius
lings look to run into the natural but back off

10:00
spores going up for Curious
Genius up by 7 workers
6 more gates for Genius
forward pylon going down for Genius
Curious droning hard
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 12:02:45
December 14 2012 12:01 GMT
#1064
On December 14 2012 20:59 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:55 opterown wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:54 bgx wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:50 opterown wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:49 bgx wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:47 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:45 ETisME wrote:
On December 14 2012 20:42 T.O.P. wrote:
You guys are all criticizing fantasy saying he's playing like shit. To me eyes, he's showing a way higher level of play than I have ever seen from a SC2 terran. His mechanics may be bad right now. It might always be bad, after all he has around 250 apm .

he had:
Supply block
no scan ahead before heading to a cliff
poor macro
idle medivac hanging on zerg's base after the drop is cleaned
no scan ahead to confirm tech switch

I can care less if he's getting supply blocked, or has poor macro or forget medivacs. This is mechanics. I'm talking about RTS intelligence.


You are opening a can of worms in this section. Not many people here will understand the notion you are trying to push, and what you are saying rarely happens in sc2. So in fact Fantasy even if he played intelligently but put mediocre macro would be crushed in SC2 circumstance where lining up your economy with timing will trump any intelligence.

User was warned for this post

what is this notion that we do not apparently understand?

Where people could play bad macro vs players with perfect macro in BW because they could task those players on different fronts. In SC2 macro has to perfectly lined up with anything you do otherwise you will fail. So players who had tendency not to prioritize macro but aggresive play in BW like Fantasy will have to prioritize macro play before anything else.

bomber loses to many players who have worse macro than him. so does marineking. macro is important in sc2, but hardly the be-all-and-end-all. if you robot out a build, you're not guaranteed a win.

I simply tried to put the thought I BELIEVE Top wanted to showcase, though i probably sounded to agressive doing so. Nevermind that.


There is no point. If you are playing intelligently you will be focusing on important things not only space control and unit composition. It's called common sense. And by the way, yes, Fantasy tryhard to multitask too hard giving up all his macro, which is more bad for him than his opponent.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 14 2012 12:01 GMT
#1065
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.

His multi tasking and micro weren't superb at all. Passable against a zerg playing terribly isn't superb.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 14 2012 12:02 GMT
#1066
wait, second roach warren?
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
December 14 2012 12:02 GMT
#1067
Hm yesterday's game were so much better.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 14 2012 12:02 GMT
#1068
On December 14 2012 21:01 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.

His multi tasking and micro weren't superb at all. Passable against a zerg playing terribly isn't superb.

i hope they're much better in PL, he's my captain haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 14 2012 12:02 GMT
#1069
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.

lol... This is unbelievable
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 14 2012 12:02 GMT
#1070
that's definitely a second roach warren, because i saw roaches trying to bust Genius earlier
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-14 12:03:32
December 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#1071
If this is the last code S tournament for WOL, then there shouldn't be a code A for next season, right?

Because that code A will just be prelim for a code S tournament in hots, should be played under hots.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#1072
On December 14 2012 20:58 bo1b wrote:
I dont get it, people have been saying for years that sc2 macro is super easy, but when the people they salivate over cant do it competently its suddenly because they were trying (and failing) to do something else. Aggressive strats do work in sc2, multi tasking does work in sc2, playing cheesy does work in sc2.


The reason why macro is easy in sc2 is partly because, until the BW players started switching over, most terrans did not spend as much effort multitasking and microing on multiple fronts. When you add in that many things to do at once, macroing superbly becomes extremely difficult. If you watch the BW players, they are literally everywhere at once.
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
December 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#1073
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.

His micro was nothing special. This is stuff that pretty much every code A and code S terran does while macroing. In addition when macroing is important, you should make it a priority especially when it is apparently so easy. At this level you can expect decent micro, multitask and macro. You can't just say Fantasy was focusing on some weird aspect that us mere mortals can't understand and which doesn't matter in SC2.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#1074
On December 14 2012 21:02 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.

lol... This is unbelievable


Prove me wrong. Until then you are unbelievable.
Uquu
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland474 Posts
December 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#1075
Go Genius! Beat the Code S Reader!
|| Thorzain || Grubby || NesTea || Jaedong || Flash || Ferrari_430 ||
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 14 2012 12:03 GMT
#1076
Genius really should have just targeted down that one spore
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 14 2012 12:04 GMT
#1077
On December 14 2012 21:03 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 20:58 bo1b wrote:
I dont get it, people have been saying for years that sc2 macro is super easy, but when the people they salivate over cant do it competently its suddenly because they were trying (and failing) to do something else. Aggressive strats do work in sc2, multi tasking does work in sc2, playing cheesy does work in sc2.


The reason why macro is easy in sc2 is partly because, until the BW players started switching over, most terrans did not spend as much effort multitasking and microing on multiple fronts. When you add in that many things to do at once, macroing superbly becomes extremely difficult. If you watch the BW players, they are literally everywhere at once.

go watch gumiho, he's more all over the place and macros 50x better than fantasy did that game
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2664 Posts
December 14 2012 12:04 GMT
#1078
I so wish I would have seen that match so I can laugh too!
Still hope Fantasy will perform like I want in PL, need points!
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
December 14 2012 12:04 GMT
#1079
On December 14 2012 20:58 bo1b wrote:
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On December 14 2012 20:58 ZerglingTwins wrote:
How come Genius still doesn't belong to a team? He's still pretty good, can make top 3 in a lot of teams.

He does, announcement hasn't been made yet though.


crossing fingers on fnaticLadyCall.Genius.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
December 14 2012 12:04 GMT
#1080
On December 14 2012 21:03 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 21:02 AxionSteel wrote:
On December 14 2012 21:00 BackSideAttack wrote:
I like how everyone only focuses on his macro and ignores his superb micro and multitasking. He had great splits,great maurader micro, great harassment, and great multitask micro- other than game 3 where he had literally no units back at home. He did all the little things like moving small pockets of units to snipe infestors and keeping his marauders in front to soak damage. Whenever roro counter-attacked, fantasy was microing on multiple fronts. If you think he sucks, then find me 5 esfi terrans who can multitask and micro as well as fantasy can.

lol... This is unbelievable


Prove me wrong. Until then you are unbelievable.


Please link me to the stream you're watching, I wanna watch that one instead of the one everyone else saw
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