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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#2541
On December 03 2012 12:15 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:09 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:08 Maloreon wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:06 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:05 mikkels wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:04 Fionn wrote:
Okay, seems like the game was just paused. Would have sucked if they regamed on Zergtroplis.


Zergtropolis? It's about the only terran map left.


How is a map that is 35% TvZ favored for Terran?


Because Terrans insist on charging forward on a SUPER long map with bio-tank or bio only. You can alternatively just sit back and build any comp you want. The metagame is far from figured out - sadly people really think it is.


I'll let you in on a secret of what happens when you try to play sky terran on this map

macro up for 20 minutes

big fight

zerg remaxes on 15 ultralisks

you lose

You are joking right?

That is why it doesn't work on OTHER maps. On this map there are small choke points so you stick planetaries there and it is ultralisk proof.


I say this from experience of both playing the map and watching many many pro games on it. a planetary will not hold off a remax of ultra ling for more than a few seconds once they reach your side of the map.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#2542
On December 03 2012 12:16 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:09 KristofferAG wrote:
IPL6 announced to be held on 28 March - 31 March.

http://esfiworld.com/news/ipl6-announced-will-take-place-march-28th-31st-las-vegas

wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date

HotS is on the 12th of March.

i wonder how refined the play will be

White-Ra will win IPL6.

Idra won the first IPL of WoL
Idra will win the first IPL of HoTS! USA! USA! USA!
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
December 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#2543
On December 03 2012 12:16 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:14 Zebb wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:09 KristofferAG wrote:
IPL6 announced to be held on 28 March - 31 March.

http://esfiworld.com/news/ipl6-announced-will-take-place-march-28th-31st-las-vegas

wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date

HotS is on the 12th of March.

i wonder how refined the play will be


hahahahahahahhaha

seriously, it's going to take another year for the metagame to shake out properly. I don't think anyone has a clue what to do with the widow mine yet.


By comparison no one still has a clue what to do with most units in WoL. I've watched the unit control and usage of nearly every unit increase drastically over the last year. People really believe the pros have the game completely figured out - in six years we'll laugh at how bad we all were at this game. That said, I can't wait to see people abuse the hell out of the new units. The HotS invitationals and tourneys have been a blast.

I want another Day[9] release party + tournament!!!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
December 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#2544
damn i'm stoned
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 03 2012 03:17 GMT
#2545
On December 03 2012 12:16 kwantumszuperpozishn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:14 TheDwf wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:09 iAmJeffReY wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:09 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:08 Maloreon wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:06 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:05 mikkels wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:04 Fionn wrote:
Okay, seems like the game was just paused. Would have sucked if they regamed on Zergtroplis.


Zergtropolis? It's about the only terran map left.


How is a map that is 35% TvZ favored for Terran?


Because Terrans insist on charging forward on a SUPER long map with bio-tank or bio only. You can alternatively just sit back and build any comp you want. The metagame is far from figured out - sadly people really think it is.


I'll let you in on a secret of what happens when you try to play sky terran on this map

macro up for 20 minutes

big fight

zerg remaxes on 15 ultralisks

you lose

BUT THEN YOU DROP 25 AUTO TURREtsS!@!@~1`1`1`!

And you land Vikings! They do so well against Zerglings/Ultralisks, a joy to watch this show.

Vikings are good lategame. I wonder why noone used them sooner.

It's deadpan humor, right?
kwantumszuperpozishn
Profile Joined August 2012
125 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2546
this will be a long game
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2547
On December 03 2012 12:15 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:13 Maloreon wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:12 Tachion wrote:
What's the proper response to Polt's first push? Just a whole bunch of roaches?


It's difficult to scout if the Terran denies it properly, you have to have an army for starters. I've seen it defended plenty with just ling-bling but you need WAY more than Violet had.

yeaaa but that was a lot of hellions, and with MM to back them up. very intimidating for zergling/baneling composition. I guess you have to sandwich so he can't micro to hearts content.


Yeah I think it was Life or Leenock I've seen hold it, they sandwiched and had LOTS more banelings (not 5 like Violet had, but like 20+). He probably could have seen it coming and had time to react if his scouting mid-map was better too.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2548
On December 03 2012 12:16 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:14 Zebb wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:09 KristofferAG wrote:
IPL6 announced to be held on 28 March - 31 March.

http://esfiworld.com/news/ipl6-announced-will-take-place-march-28th-31st-las-vegas

wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date

HotS is on the 12th of March.

i wonder how refined the play will be


hahahahahahahhaha

seriously, it's going to take another year for the metagame to shake out properly. I don't think anyone has a clue what to do with the widow mine yet.


By comparison no one still has a clue what to do with most units in WoL. I've watched the unit control and usage of nearly every unit increase drastically over the last year. People really believe the pros have the game completely figured out - in six years we'll laugh at how bad we all were at this game. That said, I can't wait to see people abuse the hell out of the new units. The HotS invitationals and tourneys have been a blast.

It's stupid to say that the pros have the game completely figured out, and I haven't really heard anyones ay that. Sure enough the metagame is very stagnant, but the game is still fairly fresh. Sorta.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2549
On December 03 2012 12:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:16 StarVe wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:09 KristofferAG wrote:
IPL6 announced to be held on 28 March - 31 March.

http://esfiworld.com/news/ipl6-announced-will-take-place-march-28th-31st-las-vegas

wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date

HotS is on the 12th of March.

i wonder how refined the play will be

White-Ra will win IPL6.

Idra won the first IPL of WoL
Idra will win the first IPL of HoTS! USA! USA! USA!

But look at the opponents he had. You should call a Spades a Spades.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2550
Shoutout to Seeker!
CikaZombi
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia630 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2551
Oh Seeker got some love from Grubby :D
You can no more evade my wrath, than you could your own shadow.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2552
Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
December 03 2012 03:18 GMT
#2553
On December 03 2012 12:16 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:14 Zebb wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:09 KristofferAG wrote:
IPL6 announced to be held on 28 March - 31 March.

http://esfiworld.com/news/ipl6-announced-will-take-place-march-28th-31st-las-vegas

wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date

HotS is on the 12th of March.

i wonder how refined the play will be


hahahahahahahhaha

seriously, it's going to take another year for the metagame to shake out properly. I don't think anyone has a clue what to do with the widow mine yet.


By comparison no one still has a clue what to do with most units in WoL. I've watched the unit control and usage of nearly every unit increase drastically over the last year. People really believe the pros have the game completely figured out - in six years we'll laugh at how bad we all were at this game. That said, I can't wait to see people abuse the hell out of the new units. The HotS invitationals and tourneys have been a blast.


Completely agree, things are still being figured out in WoL and HotS is on the doorstep. I guess we're just going to have chaos until Legacy of the Void, but hey, good games!
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2554
On December 03 2012 12:13 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:12 Tachion wrote:
What's the proper response to Polt's first push? Just a whole bunch of roaches?


It's difficult to scout if the Terran denies it properly, you have to have an army for starters. I've seen it defended plenty with just ling-bling but you need WAY more than Violet had.


Sniper held it with a bunch of Spines 4-5 Queens, Roaches and Lings.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
December 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2555
On December 03 2012 12:15 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:09 Dodgin wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:08 Maloreon wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:06 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:05 mikkels wrote:
On December 03 2012 12:04 Fionn wrote:
Okay, seems like the game was just paused. Would have sucked if they regamed on Zergtroplis.


Zergtropolis? It's about the only terran map left.


How is a map that is 35% TvZ favored for Terran?


Because Terrans insist on charging forward on a SUPER long map with bio-tank or bio only. You can alternatively just sit back and build any comp you want. The metagame is far from figured out - sadly people really think it is.


I'll let you in on a secret of what happens when you try to play sky terran on this map

macro up for 20 minutes

big fight

zerg remaxes on 15 ultralisks

you lose

You are joking right?

That is why it doesn't work on OTHER maps. On this map there are small choke points so you stick planetaries there and it is ultralisk proof.

There is nothing made of building that can stop a mass of ultras.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2556
On December 03 2012 12:18 ssxsilver wrote:
Shoutout to Seeker!

What did he do?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17741 Posts
December 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2557
On December 03 2012 12:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him.

FXO making that ROI!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
December 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2558
On December 03 2012 12:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him.


Pretty sick streetcreds
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2559
On December 03 2012 12:19 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 12:18 ssxsilver wrote:
Shoutout to Seeker!

What did he do?

Grubby reads the GSL interviews he translates
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2560
On December 03 2012 12:18 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him.

I one-up him with my Khaldor shout-out from GSL.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
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