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On December 03 2012 12:15 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:09 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2012 12:08 Maloreon wrote:On December 03 2012 12:06 Fionn wrote:On December 03 2012 12:05 mikkels wrote:On December 03 2012 12:04 Fionn wrote: Okay, seems like the game was just paused. Would have sucked if they regamed on Zergtroplis. Zergtropolis? It's about the only terran map left. How is a map that is 35% TvZ favored for Terran? Because Terrans insist on charging forward on a SUPER long map with bio-tank or bio only. You can alternatively just sit back and build any comp you want. The metagame is far from figured out - sadly people really think it is. I'll let you in on a secret of what happens when you try to play sky terran on this map macro up for 20 minutes big fight zerg remaxes on 15 ultralisks you lose You are joking right? That is why it doesn't work on OTHER maps. On this map there are small choke points so you stick planetaries there and it is ultralisk proof.
I say this from experience of both playing the map and watching many many pro games on it. a planetary will not hold off a remax of ultra ling for more than a few seconds once they reach your side of the map.
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On December 03 2012 12:16 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date HotS is on the 12th of March. i wonder how refined the play will be White-Ra will win IPL6. Idra won the first IPL of WoL Idra will win the first IPL of HoTS! USA! USA! USA!
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On December 03 2012 12:16 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:14 Zebb wrote:On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date HotS is on the 12th of March. i wonder how refined the play will be hahahahahahahhaha seriously, it's going to take another year for the metagame to shake out properly. I don't think anyone has a clue what to do with the widow mine yet. By comparison no one still has a clue what to do with most units in WoL. I've watched the unit control and usage of nearly every unit increase drastically over the last year. People really believe the pros have the game completely figured out - in six years we'll laugh at how bad we all were at this game. That said, I can't wait to see people abuse the hell out of the new units. The HotS invitationals and tourneys have been a blast. I want another Day[9] release party + tournament!!!
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On December 03 2012 12:16 kwantumszuperpozishn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:14 TheDwf wrote:On December 03 2012 12:09 iAmJeffReY wrote:On December 03 2012 12:09 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2012 12:08 Maloreon wrote:On December 03 2012 12:06 Fionn wrote:On December 03 2012 12:05 mikkels wrote:On December 03 2012 12:04 Fionn wrote: Okay, seems like the game was just paused. Would have sucked if they regamed on Zergtroplis. Zergtropolis? It's about the only terran map left. How is a map that is 35% TvZ favored for Terran? Because Terrans insist on charging forward on a SUPER long map with bio-tank or bio only. You can alternatively just sit back and build any comp you want. The metagame is far from figured out - sadly people really think it is. I'll let you in on a secret of what happens when you try to play sky terran on this map macro up for 20 minutes big fight zerg remaxes on 15 ultralisks you lose BUT THEN YOU DROP 25 AUTO TURREtsS!@!@~1`1`1`! And you land Vikings! They do so well against Zerglings/Ultralisks, a joy to watch this show. Vikings are good lategame. I wonder why noone used them sooner. It's deadpan humor, right?
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On December 03 2012 12:15 Tachion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:13 Maloreon wrote:On December 03 2012 12:12 Tachion wrote: What's the proper response to Polt's first push? Just a whole bunch of roaches? It's difficult to scout if the Terran denies it properly, you have to have an army for starters. I've seen it defended plenty with just ling-bling but you need WAY more than Violet had. yeaaa but that was a lot of hellions, and with MM to back them up. very intimidating for zergling/baneling composition. I guess you have to sandwich so he can't micro to hearts content.
Yeah I think it was Life or Leenock I've seen hold it, they sandwiched and had LOTS more banelings (not 5 like Violet had, but like 20+). He probably could have seen it coming and had time to react if his scouting mid-map was better too.
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On December 03 2012 12:16 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:14 Zebb wrote:On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date HotS is on the 12th of March. i wonder how refined the play will be hahahahahahahhaha seriously, it's going to take another year for the metagame to shake out properly. I don't think anyone has a clue what to do with the widow mine yet. By comparison no one still has a clue what to do with most units in WoL. I've watched the unit control and usage of nearly every unit increase drastically over the last year. People really believe the pros have the game completely figured out - in six years we'll laugh at how bad we all were at this game. That said, I can't wait to see people abuse the hell out of the new units. The HotS invitationals and tourneys have been a blast. It's stupid to say that the pros have the game completely figured out, and I haven't really heard anyones ay that. Sure enough the metagame is very stagnant, but the game is still fairly fresh. Sorta.
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On December 03 2012 12:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:16 StarVe wrote:On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date HotS is on the 12th of March. i wonder how refined the play will be White-Ra will win IPL6. Idra won the first IPL of WoL Idra will win the first IPL of HoTS! USA! USA! USA! But look at the opponents he had. You should call a Spades a Spades.
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Oh Seeker got some love from Grubby :D
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Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him.
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On December 03 2012 12:16 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:14 Zebb wrote:On December 03 2012 12:12 opterown wrote:On December 03 2012 12:11 KristofferAG wrote:On December 03 2012 12:10 opterown wrote:wait, is that after HOTS or before? i forget release date HotS is on the 12th of March. i wonder how refined the play will be hahahahahahahhaha seriously, it's going to take another year for the metagame to shake out properly. I don't think anyone has a clue what to do with the widow mine yet. By comparison no one still has a clue what to do with most units in WoL. I've watched the unit control and usage of nearly every unit increase drastically over the last year. People really believe the pros have the game completely figured out - in six years we'll laugh at how bad we all were at this game. That said, I can't wait to see people abuse the hell out of the new units. The HotS invitationals and tourneys have been a blast.
Completely agree, things are still being figured out in WoL and HotS is on the doorstep. I guess we're just going to have chaos until Legacy of the Void, but hey, good games!
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On December 03 2012 12:13 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:12 Tachion wrote: What's the proper response to Polt's first push? Just a whole bunch of roaches? It's difficult to scout if the Terran denies it properly, you have to have an army for starters. I've seen it defended plenty with just ling-bling but you need WAY more than Violet had.
Sniper held it with a bunch of Spines 4-5 Queens, Roaches and Lings.
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On December 03 2012 12:15 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:09 Dodgin wrote:On December 03 2012 12:08 Maloreon wrote:On December 03 2012 12:06 Fionn wrote:On December 03 2012 12:05 mikkels wrote:On December 03 2012 12:04 Fionn wrote: Okay, seems like the game was just paused. Would have sucked if they regamed on Zergtroplis. Zergtropolis? It's about the only terran map left. How is a map that is 35% TvZ favored for Terran? Because Terrans insist on charging forward on a SUPER long map with bio-tank or bio only. You can alternatively just sit back and build any comp you want. The metagame is far from figured out - sadly people really think it is. I'll let you in on a secret of what happens when you try to play sky terran on this map macro up for 20 minutes big fight zerg remaxes on 15 ultralisks you lose You are joking right? That is why it doesn't work on OTHER maps. On this map there are small choke points so you stick planetaries there and it is ultralisk proof. There is nothing made of building that can stop a mass of ultras.
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On December 03 2012 12:18 ssxsilver wrote: Shoutout to Seeker! What did he do?
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On December 03 2012 12:18 AlternativeEgo wrote: Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him. FXO making that ROI!
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On December 03 2012 12:18 AlternativeEgo wrote: Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him.
Pretty sick streetcreds
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On December 03 2012 12:19 StarVe wrote:What did he do? Grubby reads the GSL interviews he translates
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On December 03 2012 12:18 AlternativeEgo wrote: Seeker gets a Grubby shoutout. Must be good to be him. I one-up him with my Khaldor shout-out from GSL.
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