On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote: I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.
achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's
really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).
I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.
WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.
RSL had some of the stiffest competition and included nerchio + Koreans. She finished ahead of every top Euro. Just because she hasnt had the opportunity to go to events yet doesnt mean she isnt as good. Every tournament they have been in together, Scarlett has finished ahead of Nerchio.
My point isnt that Nerchio's achievments arent better. Because they most certainley are. I just dont believe you can qualify who's better based of previous results.
In that case you cannot determine who is better in any other way, ok then
On November 25 2012 03:22 PhoenixVoid wrote: TaeJa reminds me of Polt a little. Both are known more for their engagement skill, efficiency and not much for their macro (I've seen Polt and TaeJa float close to 1k minerals like 10 minutes in).
Well to be fair, oftentimes Taeja's macro looks pretty much flawless.
when he is floating 1K resources is when he is making dem add-ons, after the add ons are done BAM constant unit produciton
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote: oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.
IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.
Foreigners are more like code A to be honest
way to generalize
Yeah, sure some are Code A, but it's a huge generalisation. Most are Code B.
Dude Code B Koreans are generally really good.
Isn't like everyone Code B, including me and you?
Actually you need to be at least KR High Masters to even qualify for Code B, so no
Don't they make (or at least made) an exception for non koreans that was that they just had to be in Korea to participate in the qualifiers, thus making any non korean code B?
I presume they'll only do it if you're at least a somebody or Masters in your region.
I'd imagine at that point if you're not Korean they don't care. I mean there's already enough straight up byes that putting Rain vs Me isn't exactly unfair. Plus on the off chance they make it into the GSL (like that one guy who got byes into the finals of his qualifier) it would increase their viewership a lot.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if they denied a non masters either
On November 25 2012 03:23 Maesy wrote: You guys are silly comparing Nerchio and Scarlett. They're on the same team and their skill level is essentially neck and neck, and they have a similar number of achievements. There are no arguments. You're typing just to type.
Gotta do something while there are no games.
How do you dare to state Nerchio and Scarlett have similar achievements? Scarlett has basically no achievements at all.
I guess I should have said recent achievements. Nerchio has been in the scene a bit longer than Scarlett (correct me if I'm wrong) so overall that's not really fair to say.
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote: I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.
achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's
really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).
I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.
WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.
RSL had some of the stiffest competition and included nerchio + Koreans. She finished ahead of every top Euro. Just because she hasnt had the opportunity to go to events yet doesnt mean she isnt as good. Every tournament they have been in together, Scarlett has finished ahead of Nerchio. who's better based of previous results.
My point isnt that Nerchio's achievments arent better. Because they most certainley are. I just dont believe you can qualify
You realize the whole RSL tournament was played on the NA server?
lol ok. The classic starcraft excuse "we can discount the win because of cross server play". There is really no point in arguing I suppose.
Well you are trying to hype an impressive run up so much that it basically replaces winning two major tournaments. I just didnt feel the same as you.
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote: I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.
achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's
really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).
I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.
WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.
RSL had some of the stiffest competition and included nerchio + Koreans. She finished ahead of every top Euro. Just because she hasnt had the opportunity to go to events yet doesnt mean she isnt as good. Every tournament they have been in together, Scarlett has finished ahead of Nerchio. who's better based of previous results.
My point isnt that Nerchio's achievments arent better. Because they most certainley are. I just dont believe you can qualify
You realize the whole RSL tournament was played on the NA server?
lol ok. The classic starcraft excuse "we can discount the win because of cross server play". There is really no point in arguing I suppose.
Nobody is discounting it completely, it just has justifiably less weight than LAN.
EDIT: And before you start , of course level of competition also plays a role. Not every LAN > non-LAN.
On November 25 2012 03:23 Maesy wrote: You guys are silly comparing Nerchio and Scarlett. They're on the same team and their skill level is essentially neck and neck, and they have a similar number of achievements. There are no arguments. You're typing just to type.
Gotta do something while there are no games.
How do you dare to state Nerchio and Scarlett have similar achievements? Scarlett has basically no achievements at all.
I guess I should have said recent achievements. Nerchio has been in the scene a bit longer than Scarlett (correct me if I'm wrong) so overall that's not really fair to say.
Well all of Nerchios achievements are kinda recent :p
By the way, im not the disgusting Nerchio fanboy and Scarlett hater im seeming to be.
On November 25 2012 03:23 Maesy wrote: You guys are silly comparing Nerchio and Scarlett. They're on the same team and their skill level is essentially neck and neck, and they have a similar number of achievements. There are no arguments. You're typing just to type.
Gotta do something while there are no games.
How do you dare to state Nerchio and Scarlett have similar achievements? Scarlett has basically no achievements at all.
I guess I should have said recent achievements. Nerchio has been in the scene a bit longer than Scarlett (correct me if I'm wrong) so overall that's not really fair to say.
Well all of Nerchios achievements are kinda recent :p
By the way, im not the disgusting Nerchio fanboy and Scarlett hater im seeming to be.
Oh, I never observed you in such a way. I love watching both play recently. They're both favorites and I always seem completely bored when one or the other is out of a tournament that I'm watching.
EPT
Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily. 
