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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
November 24 2012 18:23 GMT
#2161
Hmm I always cheer for the foreigner when he play against a Korean but this time I am thinking of cheering for Hero, thinking Hero vs Taeja could be good final. Monchi vs Teaja? Probably not...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2162
I like dreamhack's music selection. Very appropriate for gamers.
rip passion
!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2163
On November 25 2012 03:23 SkelA wrote:
Holy shit what happened with Stephano ?


eg curse
<(^-^<) (>^-^)>
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2164
On November 25 2012 03:22 liberate71 wrote:
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On November 25 2012 03:21 DwD wrote:
Cmon what's this crap on stream lol. At least play some Kpop or something heh


This music destroy's K-Pop


But think of the children. They love that stuff.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2165
On November 25 2012 03:23 SkelA wrote:
Holy shit what happened with Stephano ?




EG Curse, duh.
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2166
On November 25 2012 03:15 mcc wrote:
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On November 25 2012 03:09 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.


achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's



really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).

I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.

WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.


Yeah. It is ridiculous. ZvZ is so volatile. You cannot assert that one can beat someone in ZvZ 2:0 and consequently be considered a better player, even in ZvZ.

I saw those two games, and the first one was bizarre in the fact that Nerchio for some reason let a hatch he was attacking live with only 1hp. He did not even go back to snipe it. Also, it was broodlord vs. broodlord very late game. Neither player was very familiar with that scenario (as Nerchio explains in this interview).
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The other match he simply made a series of bad calls that left him with no defense vs. mass muta. It happens to everyone in a while. It was not like Scarlett beat Nerchio 3:0 in three decisive games.

Scarlett additionally, has quite some ways to go to prove herself in the progaming scene. She has just arrived with her win over Nerchio, but other than that has not really done anything to assert her position. We will see in the future, but for now, I don't think there is any real debate here.
CJ Entusman #24
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2167
On November 25 2012 03:24 !LL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:23 SkelA wrote:
Holy shit what happened with Stephano ?


eg curse

The rox.kis/GL advantage
Glorious SEA doto
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2168
I'm still hoping for a Hero/Taeja finals... Come on Hero!
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2169
On November 25 2012 03:22 PhoenixVoid wrote:
TaeJa reminds me of Polt a little. Both are known more for their engagement skill, efficiency and not much for their macro (I've seen Polt and TaeJa float close to 1k minerals like 10 minutes in).

Who?
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2170
On November 25 2012 03:22 PhoenixVoid wrote:
TaeJa reminds me of Polt a little. Both are known more for their engagement skill, efficiency and not much for their macro (I've seen Polt and TaeJa float close to 1k minerals like 10 minutes in).

Well to be fair, oftentimes Taeja's macro looks pretty much flawless.
o choro é livre
HeartOfTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Niue585 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2171
On November 25 2012 03:24 Deathstar wrote:
I like dreamhack's music selection. Very appropriate for gamers.


Do not generalize, I don't like it...or maybe I am not a gamer =/
"I do not join. I lead." - Queen of Blades
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2172
On November 25 2012 03:24 Zane wrote:
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On November 25 2012 03:22 PhoenixVoid wrote:
TaeJa reminds me of Polt a little. Both are known more for their engagement skill, efficiency and not much for their macro (I've seen Polt and TaeJa float close to 1k minerals like 10 minutes in).

Who?

You know, that guy who just knocked seed into code B.
Glorious SEA doto
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2173
On November 25 2012 03:23 S_SienZ wrote:
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On November 25 2012 03:21 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:19 S_SienZ wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:18 krutopatkin wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:16 ref4 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


Foreigners are more like code A to be honest

way to generalize


Yeah, sure some are Code A, but it's a huge generalisation. Most are Code B.


Dude Code B Koreans are generally really good.


Isn't like everyone Code B, including me and you?

Actually you need to be at least KR High Masters to even qualify for Code B, so no


Don't they make (or at least made) an exception for non koreans that was that they just had to be in Korea to participate in the qualifiers, thus making any non korean code B?

I presume they'll only do it if you're at least a somebody or Masters in your region.


I don't think so you have to at LEAST win something big like Nerchio/Mana/Stephano

ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2174
On November 25 2012 03:23 SkelA wrote:
Holy shit what happened with Stephano ?



Well, he got mauled by alot of people in his groupstage
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2175
On November 25 2012 03:23 Maesy wrote:
You guys are silly comparing Nerchio and Scarlett. They're on the same team and their skill level is essentially neck and neck, and they have a similar number of achievements. There are no arguments. You're typing just to type.


There is always a comparison to make between people that play the same race, it just comes down to stylistic choices.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2176
On November 25 2012 03:23 Maesy wrote:
You guys are silly comparing Nerchio and Scarlett. They're on the same team and their skill level is essentially neck and neck, and they have a similar number of achievements. There are no arguments. You're typing just to type.


Gotta do something while there are no games.

How do you dare to state Nerchio and Scarlett have similar achievements? Scarlett has basically no achievements at all.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 24 2012 18:24 GMT
#2177
On November 25 2012 03:22 liberate71 wrote:
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On November 25 2012 03:21 DwD wrote:
Cmon what's this crap on stream lol. At least play some Kpop or something heh


This music destroy's K-Pop

I don't think that was comparable to anything really, kinda its own genre

It's like trying to review this:


doesn't matter if you like it or not, it's still not better nor worse than anything else

never underestimate wtf factors

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although that is probably the weirdest I've ever seen
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 24 2012 18:25 GMT
#2178
On November 25 2012 03:21 liberate71 wrote:
This song is mindblowingly good... so is the clip hahahahahah

My faith in humanity totally lost.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
November 24 2012 18:25 GMT
#2179
On November 25 2012 03:22 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:21 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 mcc wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:09 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.


achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's



really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).

I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.

WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Ritmix_Russian_StarCraft_2_League_Season_2 (wins over bomber, feast, nerchio, Vortix, lost to Leenock in the finals)

RSL had some of the stiffest competition and included nerchio + Koreans. She finished ahead of every top Euro. Just because she hasnt had the opportunity to go to events yet doesnt mean she isnt as good. Every tournament they have been in together, Scarlett has finished ahead of Nerchio. who's better based of previous results.


My point isnt that Nerchio's achievments arent better. Because they most certainley are. I just dont believe you can qualify

You realize the whole RSL tournament was played on the NA server?



lol ok. The classic starcraft excuse "we can discount the win because of cross server play". There is really no point in arguing I suppose.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Ida Svensson
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany149 Posts
November 24 2012 18:25 GMT
#2180
On November 25 2012 03:23 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Hmm I always cheer for the foreigner when he play against a Korean but this time I am thinking of cheering for Hero, thinking Hero vs Taeja could be good final. Monchi vs Teaja? Probably not...


Do you know Monchis PvT? I don't, since we haven't seen any of his in this tournament.
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