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Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 23 2012 17:47 GMT
#1861
On November 24 2012 02:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:43 bjornkavist wrote:
The past 10 pages of this thread... Makes me weep for Esports

more like weep for the next generation of mathematicians


Exactly. I'm really amazed that Day9 or QXC (not sure if he's a math major though) haven't really come up with a proper 2-3 day tournament format.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
November 23 2012 17:47 GMT
#1862
On November 24 2012 02:44 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:42 garbanzo wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:39 Al Bundy wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:36 Astro-Penguin wrote:
Deal with it, theres no way to prove that he did unlike the Naniwa Probe Rush incident which a bunch of people seem so obligated to get butthurt over, don't expect someone to be on their A game when they realize that they are out of the tournament.

On November 24 2012 02:36 garbanzo wrote:
Wanting to play a quicker game by doing a ling/baneling all-in is not the same as throwing the game away. If NightEnd wasn't ready for it Ret could have done a lot of damage and actually won the game. After the all-in failed he lost so he just had a bit of fun.

Did you guys even watch the game? Anyway let's move on.

What about my statement is wrong? Sure he could have attacked the third instead of pushing against the forcefields. You could also argue that he just made the wrong call thinking that there wasn't going to be any more forcefields. Remove the fact that this was a completely meaningless game and you would just think he's making poor, misinformed decisions and nothing more.

He a-moved into a Protoss army full of sentries up a ramp, and went afk for 1 minute... Nobody does that, not even bronze players.

Okay, there's no point in discussion if you're just going to be closed-minded and not acknowledge my reasoning.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
AncientRo
Profile Joined November 2012
44 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1863
On November 24 2012 02:44 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:43 MrCash wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:41 shabby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:40 Kilby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote:
Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter.


Ret probably should not be allowed to take part in next two or three Dreamhack events?


That's my opinion, should just ban him from a couple events for wasting peoples time.


Should Sase be banned as well?


Banned because people watched 10 seconds of a pvp and didn't understand what was happening?

The casters said he had 400 minerals to make a nexus but spend 200 making 2 pylons in his base with enemy stalkers everywhere. Not sure if he had the money but that's what the casters said.
trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1864
The first time I open the dreamhack stream this weekend I am presented with the bacon video. WTF.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1865
7P, 3Z, 2T

:[[[[[
Terran & Potato Salad.
Evulrabbitz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden134 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1866
On November 24 2012 02:47 Godwrath wrote:
Seriously whoever passes the group stage. Society lost.


Too deep
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1867
omg i'm eating bacon right now to its sooo gooood
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1868
On November 24 2012 02:45 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:43 MrCash wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:41 shabby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:40 Kilby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote:
Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter.


Ret probably should not be allowed to take part in next two or three Dreamhack events?


That's my opinion, should just ban him from a couple events for wasting peoples time.


Should Sase be banned as well?


in my opinion (and bly's probably too), yes he should. WTF was he doing getting carriers and a mothershit with blys tournament on the line.


This is so subjective and unrealistic.
It feels like some of you people live in a drama bubble.

I agree that neither Ret or Sase took their matches seriously, but why should they even play?
Nothing stops them from forfeiting and leaving, they can claim they are hurt or injured if they want, are they going to be forced to play?
Ideally I would like the players to play seriously every game. On the other side, player would like to not be forced to play meaningless games and reveal strategies and builds for future events.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1869
Sase didn't throw the last game. More than usually anyhow. He has never won a base trade in his life.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1870
I can't believe I'm missing the most drama filled DH ever
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1871
On November 24 2012 02:47 broodmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:45 Fenrax wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:43 MrCash wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:41 shabby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:40 Kilby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote:
Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter.


Ret probably should not be allowed to take part in next two or three Dreamhack events?


That's my opinion, should just ban him from a couple events for wasting peoples time.


Should Sase be banned as well?


in my opinion (and bly's probably too), yes he should. WTF was he doing getting carriers and a mothershit with blys tournament on the line.


He almost won with those carriers though, it was really close


and with real units instead of carriers he would have certainly won
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1872
Protoss crushing Dreamhack so far. Like it!
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1873
On November 24 2012 02:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
This is the problem of bad tournament rule settings. There should never be these kind of situations where already players that are out can influence who goes through. Don't blame players but blame tournament admins/rules and make them change for next time.


the players have to blame themselves for not winning more matches.
Kaoru
Profile Joined April 2004
France150 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1874
Best throw ever by SaSe, Real score is 2-0. Bly's Tournament is fucked just because he did not want to let him pass.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1875
On November 24 2012 02:45 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:43 MrCash wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:41 shabby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:40 Kilby wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote:
Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter.


Ret probably should not be allowed to take part in next two or three Dreamhack events?


That's my opinion, should just ban him from a couple events for wasting peoples time.


Should Sase be banned as well?


in my opinion (and bly's probably too), yes he should. WTF was he doing getting carriers and a mothershit with blys tournament on the line.


Or maybe he just though he was farther ahead than he was and that he could go carriers and win in a fun way.

Looking at both game 1 and 3, doesn't really seem like Sase was throwing the games.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
spacecoke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:49:12
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1876
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf

Go to page 4. It says:

●The groups are decided in the following order: points, maps +/-, internal match. In case of a three-way-tie of the previous criteria internal maps +/- will decide.
● Would this not separate the players and determine the group. The players will play a tie-breaker of BO1 against each other. The first match-up will be randomly drawn and tie-breakers will continue until the group is decided.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrCWmQZqPT4
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:50:36
November 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#1877
On November 24 2012 02:47 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:46 Mallidon wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:45 DwD wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:44 Integra wrote:
So did Naniwa advance or not??


He did.


Exactly how though?

Nightend beat Nani in their 1-1 and they had the same games won to loss ratio?

I do not understand this at all :S

try reading the thread?

3-2 = 1
3-3 = 0
1 > 0
Nani > Nightend


Yeah okay, brb reading 90 odd pages (Takes a while).

What the hell do you mean 3-2? All the games are Bo3?

Edit - What page is it that clears things up?
Bleh.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 23 2012 17:49 GMT
#1878
On November 24 2012 02:47 pprrii wrote:
Can i find this video on youtube?


Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 23 2012 17:49 GMT
#1879
On November 24 2012 02:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I can't believe I'm missing the most drama filled DH ever

mike this isn't drama, just people being bad at maths
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 23 2012 17:49 GMT
#1880
On November 24 2012 02:47 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:44 Al Bundy wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:42 garbanzo wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:39 Al Bundy wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:36 Astro-Penguin wrote:
Deal with it, theres no way to prove that he did unlike the Naniwa Probe Rush incident which a bunch of people seem so obligated to get butthurt over, don't expect someone to be on their A game when they realize that they are out of the tournament.

On November 24 2012 02:36 garbanzo wrote:
Wanting to play a quicker game by doing a ling/baneling all-in is not the same as throwing the game away. If NightEnd wasn't ready for it Ret could have done a lot of damage and actually won the game. After the all-in failed he lost so he just had a bit of fun.

Did you guys even watch the game? Anyway let's move on.

What about my statement is wrong? Sure he could have attacked the third instead of pushing against the forcefields. You could also argue that he just made the wrong call thinking that there wasn't going to be any more forcefields. Remove the fact that this was a completely meaningless game and you would just think he's making poor, misinformed decisions and nothing more.

He a-moved into a Protoss army full of sentries up a ramp, and went afk for 1 minute... Nobody does that, not even bronze players.

Okay, there's no point in discussion if you're just going to be closed-minded and not acknowledge my reasoning.

Sure, whatever floats your boat. Have a nice day.
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