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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5041
On November 18 2012 16:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:13 AgentW wrote:
Remember when Taeja was destroying people and tapered off a bit? I think Rain's at that point. People have had enough time to gather a bit of info on him and he looks vulnerable. That, and his PvT can't be shown off in this tourney.


I don't think so, Creator is just really really really good at PvP so if anyone here was going to beat Rain it was going to be him.


Plus the last game he lost was only because Rain was too greedy.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5042
Creator hwaiting
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5043
On November 18 2012 16:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:14 m0ck wrote:
Creator vs Rain

Game 3 - Entombed Vallet

What at first looked like mirror 1-gate+robo builds, were changed dramatically as Creator cancelled his robo to build a quick nexus as he scouted the robo of rain. The robo was restarted as Rain began his immortal-production and took an expand of his own. Rain quickly continued into robo bay, with Creator slightly behind. Rain started warp-prism speed imidiatly and went to harass with double immortals. Creator started colossi and blink, while Rain began +1 attack. The harass from Rain was quickly denied as he mismicroed and lost an immortal needlessly.

Rain was the first to go to three bases as Creator pushed across the map, up ~25 army-supply. The only hope of Rain, his superior colossi-count, proved insufficient as Creator was able to use his blink-tech to close the distance and push through to Rains main.

Creator with a deadly two-base timing proved too much for Rain who tried spread himself thin between double robo and a third base, 2:1

Creator rerolling zerg in order to beat Rain


But changing races in the middle of the game.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5044
On November 18 2012 16:10 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:04 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On November 18 2012 16:00 blade55555 wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:59 Whoranzone wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:55 Whoranzone wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:49 Whoranzone wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:45 Whoranzone wrote:
[quote]
Yeah so astonishing against zergs that had accomplished jackshit.


Mm, I guess you're right. Sen's pretty bad.

wait...

Yeah I am sorry I must have missed all those 2012 titles of him.
Oh wait...


Nestea have no title this year but I wouldn't say that he has "accomplished jackshit"

Feel free to add a this year if it makes you feel better.


It was you who did the 2012 specification. Sen is an accomplished player and that's that.

Again if it makes you feel better - an accomplished player that accomplished jackshit for an entire year.


Why are you so stupid? You do realize that Sen does play in his taiwan league right? He hasn't played in any major tournaments this year that I can think of except maybe NASL (can't remember). I don't get you rhate of sen, but learn what you are talking about before spouting stupidity.

P.S. Give credit also Sen outplayed Hero in game 5, no ifs ands or butts about it. He played it good and hero made mistakes and lost.


Sen outplayed HerO badly that game, even if not for Sen playing well, HerO played badly.

Whoranzone, regardless if Sen is a silver league player, or 17 time GSL Cose S champion. HerO played bad. Fucking admit it.


I think what Whoreazone is alluding to is the idea that the games are extremely close when the relative skill gaps should be much wider. Sure sen and others win stuff in their respective communities but looked at the broader perspective. Parting and Creator, and to a slightly lesser extent hero are all top quality GSL protoss, they are best protoss have to offer, and yet they have games that are very close, 3-2, against players like vortix and suppy? Something is just weird about that.


Vortix is not just "some zerg", he proved himslef by winning against ForGG, Supernova, viOLet and nearly everyone in Europe before.
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5045
On November 18 2012 16:10 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:04 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On November 18 2012 16:00 blade55555 wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:59 Whoranzone wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:57 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:55 Whoranzone wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:49 Whoranzone wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On November 18 2012 15:45 Whoranzone wrote:
[quote]
Yeah so astonishing against zergs that had accomplished jackshit.


Mm, I guess you're right. Sen's pretty bad.

wait...

Yeah I am sorry I must have missed all those 2012 titles of him.
Oh wait...


Nestea have no title this year but I wouldn't say that he has "accomplished jackshit"

Feel free to add a this year if it makes you feel better.


It was you who did the 2012 specification. Sen is an accomplished player and that's that.

Again if it makes you feel better - an accomplished player that accomplished jackshit for an entire year.


Why are you so stupid? You do realize that Sen does play in his taiwan league right? He hasn't played in any major tournaments this year that I can think of except maybe NASL (can't remember). I don't get you rhate of sen, but learn what you are talking about before spouting stupidity.

P.S. Give credit also Sen outplayed Hero in game 5, no ifs ands or butts about it. He played it good and hero made mistakes and lost.


Sen outplayed HerO badly that game, even if not for Sen playing well, HerO played badly.

Whoranzone, regardless if Sen is a silver league player, or 17 time GSL Cose S champion. HerO played bad. Fucking admit it.


I think what Whoreazone is alluding to is the idea that the games are extremely close when the relative skill gaps should be much wider. Sure sen and others win stuff in their respective communities but looked at the broader perspective. Parting and Creator, and to a slightly lesser extent hero are all top quality GSL protoss, they are best protoss have to offer, and yet they have games that are very close, 3-2, against players like vortix and suppy? Something is just weird about that.


I agree with you, it's extremely hard to debate about it because I for one would have no idea which steps to take in balancing a game. Having said that, I didn't see the Vortix games, but Parting did the exact same daybreak build against Scarlett that he did against Suppy. Hence Suppy basically knew what was coming through overlord scouts to check for similarity, and had the counter available. Also, Partings odd 2nd game all in really wasn't that strong in the first place. :/

I know it seems strange that the results are so close, but I think the Zergs should at least recieve some credit where it's due. Certain strats beat others, and a lot of it is information. Suppy had the upper hand in that regard I think.
EG<3
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5046
On November 18 2012 16:14 RaiKageRyu wrote:
That Carbot animation was new to me. Was that just unveiled just now?


The WCS one premiered yesterday on stream.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5047
Man I won't lie I want rain to beat creator lol.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5048
On November 18 2012 16:14 RaiKageRyu wrote:
That Carbot animation was new to me. Was that just unveiled just now?


No there is like 13 episodes I believe.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5049
On November 18 2012 16:14 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:13 Fionn wrote:
As the Polt fan, I would be happy to see Creator take the Optimus title.

I prefer the name Creator personally


Optimusprime is epic name though.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 18 2012 07:15 GMT
#5050
its too bad i have work tomorrow, GO SEN! i want to see you on TL front page tomorrow when i wake up!
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 07:16:45
November 18 2012 07:16 GMT
#5051
On November 18 2012 16:14 RaiKageRyu wrote:
That Carbot animation was new to me. Was that just unveiled just now?


The most recent episode hit the front page of /r/starcraft, but it wasn't that well known before that. Looks like someone at Blizzard recognized they would make great little fillers and arranged to air the entire set!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 07:16 GMT
#5052
creator is consistently ever so slightly faster than rain on all his builds
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 18 2012 07:16 GMT
#5053
On November 18 2012 16:15 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:14 RaiKageRyu wrote:
That Carbot animation was new to me. Was that just unveiled just now?


No there is like 13 episodes I believe.


They released the 14'th one yesterday ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 18 2012 07:16 GMT
#5054
On November 18 2012 16:15 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:14 mrtomjones wrote:
On November 18 2012 16:13 Fionn wrote:
As the Polt fan, I would be happy to see Creator take the Optimus title.

I prefer the name Creator personally


Optimusprime is epic name though.


Cheezy name tbh
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
November 18 2012 07:16 GMT
#5055
On November 18 2012 16:15 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:14 Dodgin wrote:
On November 18 2012 16:13 AgentW wrote:
Remember when Taeja was destroying people and tapered off a bit? I think Rain's at that point. People have had enough time to gather a bit of info on him and he looks vulnerable. That, and his PvT can't be shown off in this tourney.


I don't think so, Creator is just really really really good at PvP so if anyone here was going to beat Rain it was going to be him.


Plus the last game he lost was only because Rain was too greedy.


I haven't felt the air of invincibility around him like a month ago or so. I think it's just the ebb and flow of the game. Every dominant SC2 player goes through that I think.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
November 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#5056
On November 18 2012 16:15 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:14 RaiKageRyu wrote:
That Carbot animation was new to me. Was that just unveiled just now?


No there is like 13 episodes I believe.


Sorry, no, I meant that last episode featuring the WCS trophy. I've seen all his previous episodes before including the Halloween special but I never saw that last one before.
Someone call down the Thunder?
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
November 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#5057
On November 18 2012 16:15 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On November 18 2012 16:14 m0ck wrote:
Creator vs Rain

Game 3 - Entombed Vallet

What at first looked like mirror 1-gate+robo builds, were changed dramatically as Creator cancelled his robo to build a quick nexus as he scouted the robo of rain. The robo was restarted as Rain began his immortal-production and took an expand of his own. Rain quickly continued into robo bay, with Creator slightly behind. Rain started warp-prism speed imidiatly and went to harass with double immortals. Creator started colossi and blink, while Rain began +1 attack. The harass from Rain was quickly denied as he mismicroed and lost an immortal needlessly.

Rain was the first to go to three bases as Creator pushed across the map, up ~25 army-supply. The only hope of Rain, his superior colossi-count, proved insufficient as Creator was able to use his blink-tech to close the distance and push through to Rains main.

Creator with a deadly two-base timing proved too much for Rain who tried spread himself thin between double robo and a third base, 2:1

Creator rerolling zerg in order to beat Rain


But changing races in the middle of the game.

yeah. Neural a probe and won with toss units
umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
November 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#5058
why are there no interviews and so few crowdshots? :-(
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46200 Posts
November 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#5059
On November 18 2012 16:14 m0ck wrote:
Creator vs Rain

Game 3 - Entombed Valley

What at first looked like mirror 1-gate+robo builds, were changed dramatically as Creator cancelled his robo to build a quick nexus as he scouted the robo of rain. The robo was restarted as Rain began his immortal-production and took an expand of his own. Rain quickly continued into robo bay, with Creator slightly behind. Rain started warp-prism speed imidiatly and went to harass with double immortals. Creator started colossi and blink, while Rain began +1 attack. The harass from Rain was quickly denied as he mismicroed and lost an immortal needlessly.

Rain was the first to go to three bases as Creator pushed across the map, up ~25 army-supply. The only hope of Rain, his superior colossi-count, proved insufficient as Creator was able to use his blink-tech to close the distance and push through to Rains main.

Creator with a deadly two-base timing proved too much for Rain who tried spread himself thin between double robo and a third base, 2:1


Thank you m0ck and everyone else who's been doing LRs ♥
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#5060
On November 18 2012 16:15 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 16:14 Dodgin wrote:
On November 18 2012 16:13 AgentW wrote:
Remember when Taeja was destroying people and tapered off a bit? I think Rain's at that point. People have had enough time to gather a bit of info on him and he looks vulnerable. That, and his PvT can't be shown off in this tourney.


I don't think so, Creator is just really really really good at PvP so if anyone here was going to beat Rain it was going to be him.


Plus the last game he lost was only because Rain was too greedy.

creator was the one who expanded
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