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On November 12 2012 22:31 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 22:27 Hider wrote:On November 12 2012 22:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
RO16 Curious.
So Ryung shows all throughout today that TvZ is still very winnable for Terran. Not overcommitting, abusing Zerg immobility of BLs. Textbook stuff. If he had made a few ghosts to EMP, it would have been even more lopsided. Zerg messed up. He had no spores/crawlers to defend vs drops. Because Ryung constantly kept forcing him to make units, so he had no money to make the 8+ spines and 2-3 spores you need per base to stop double medivac 3/3 drops. You guys act like we have infinite money stocked up in the late game, it's only when you turtle and allow us to rack up a bank that Zerg runs out of control.
agreed, the pace of the game was too fast with all the careful pushes, zerg didn't have that 1-2 minutes of turtle where spines/spores make the invincible deathball turtle so much easier
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On November 12 2012 22:30 FdeZ wrote:
1 person voted Creator & Ryung, who is this legend
HAHAHA, 1 person? I voted Creator/Ryung
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I don't understand why zergs don't play more Leenock style or Ultra, Infestor into BL on Whirlwind, the structure of the map is really bad for BLs right of the bat, but faster compositions and builds that can take advantage of the open mid or base layouts can wreck havoc and setup a nice transition.
Anyway, really really impressive games from Ryung, he keeps on making a fan of me, remaining strong and consistent while his "older brother" MMA has fallen off.
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Finally, Ryung gets into the ro8 ever since GomTvT. I feel validated as a fan 
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Hmmm... Lone Star Clash, then GSL. SC2 been playing all day for me - not sure what to do now that it's over. Watch WCG DoTA?
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On November 12 2012 22:29 Tsubbi wrote:
its either balance whine, hate or schadenfreude by many terrans in lr nowadays
just be happy about how well ryung played, good to see him play so well after the slayers debacle
It's quite interesting to see balance whine occuring simultaneous with celebration for two zerg losses.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Noooooo, Curious T_T This was your chance, man!
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One of the saddest LR's in a long time ._.
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On November 12 2012 22:31 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 22:27 Hider wrote:On November 12 2012 22:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
RO16 Curious.
So Ryung shows all throughout today that TvZ is still very winnable for Terran. Not overcommitting, abusing Zerg immobility of BLs. Textbook stuff. If he had made a few ghosts to EMP, it would have been even more lopsided. Zerg messed up. He had no spores/crawlers to defend vs drops. Because Ryung constantly kept forcing him to make units, so he had no money to make the 8+ spines and 2-3 spores you need per base to stop double medivac 3/3 drops. You guys act like we have infinite money stocked up in the late game, it's only when you turtle and allow us to rack up a bank that Zerg runs out of control.
Also dont spines require a spawning pool?
It would be difficult for curious since he played most of that game without one.
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On November 12 2012 22:32 transcendent one wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 22:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
RO16 Curious.
So Ryung shows all throughout today that TvZ is still very winnable for Terran. Not overcommitting, abusing Zerg immobility of BLs. Textbook stuff. If he had made a few ghosts to EMP, it would have been even more lopsided. yeah if lopsided means like how you have 6 bases, a huge army, you rape a zerg completely killing his economy and tech and still almost losing to infestor/broodlord and only manage to win the basetrade
He didn't almost lose. He did another double drop and split his armies up while letting Curious walk into his base and kill production because he knew he would win either way. He could have also brought his army back, and with good splitting and target firing, killed it off that way.
Yeah, it looked even but if you were paying attention to the minimap you knew it was over. Eventually the Infestors would run out of energy.
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On November 12 2012 22:33 Happygreek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 22:29 Tsubbi wrote:
its either balance whine, hate or schadenfreude by many terrans in lr nowadays
just be happy about how well ryung played, good to see him play so well after the slayers debacle It's quite interesting to see balance whine occuring simultaneous with celebration for two zerg losses.
It's a curious phenomenon
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Yes! Ryung, I have had faith in you since you beat Yonghwa and pushed Mvp to the brink in that first GSTL! Fuck yeah
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On November 12 2012 22:33 phyre112 wrote:
Hmmm... Lone Star Clash, then GSL. SC2 been playing all day for me - not sure what to do now that it's over. Watch WCG DoTA?
Play more SC2?
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When i think about it, Startale has become quite a killerteam. I always thought that the change of their banner to the comic-star-thing would doom them for all eternity.
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Feel bad for DRG and Curious.
But on the bright side we will see more diversity in Ro8.
And zergs won't be nerfed. XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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On November 12 2012 22:32 dreamseller wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 22:31 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 12 2012 22:27 Hider wrote:On November 12 2012 22:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
RO16 Curious.
So Ryung shows all throughout today that TvZ is still very winnable for Terran. Not overcommitting, abusing Zerg immobility of BLs. Textbook stuff. If he had made a few ghosts to EMP, it would have been even more lopsided. Zerg messed up. He had no spores/crawlers to defend vs drops. Because Ryung constantly kept forcing him to make units, so he had no money to make the 8+ spines and 2-3 spores you need per base to stop double medivac 3/3 drops. You guys act like we have infinite money stocked up in the late game, it's only when you turtle and allow us to rack up a bank that Zerg runs out of control. agreed, the pace of the game was too fast with all the careful pushes, zerg didn't have that 1-2 minutes of turtle where spines/spores make the invincible deathball turtle so much easier
But you don't move out before. Then he should have defended longer/split up his army better.
The zerg was just heavily outplayed. Not a surprise since Ryung is a better player than Curious. Since more terrans play the game than zergs, Ryung is like the 0.001% best terrans, while Curious is like the 0.01% best zerg or so.
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United States97276 Posts
TaeJa vs Dark D:! TaeJa dead!
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On November 12 2012 22:34 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 22:32 transcendent one wrote:On November 12 2012 22:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
RO16 Curious.
So Ryung shows all throughout today that TvZ is still very winnable for Terran. Not overcommitting, abusing Zerg immobility of BLs. Textbook stuff. If he had made a few ghosts to EMP, it would have been even more lopsided. yeah if lopsided means like how you have 6 bases, a huge army, you rape a zerg completely killing his economy and tech and still almost losing to infestor/broodlord and only manage to win the basetrade He didn't almost lose. He did another double drop and split his armies up while letting Curious walk into his base and kill production because he knew he would win either way. He could have also brought his army back, and with good splitting and target firing, killed it off that way. Yeah, it looked even but if you were paying attention to the minimap you knew it was over. Eventually the Infestors would run out of energy.
yeah explain pls how terran or protoss would fare vs a zerg in the same situation
it was way closer than it should have been after ryung outplayed him hugely
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On November 12 2012 22:32 transcendent one wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 22:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
RO16 Curious.
So Ryung shows all throughout today that TvZ is still very winnable for Terran. Not overcommitting, abusing Zerg immobility of BLs. Textbook stuff. If he had made a few ghosts to EMP, it would have been even more lopsided. yeah if lopsided means like how you have 6 bases, a huge army, you rape a zerg completely killing his economy and tech and still almost losing to infestor/broodlord and only manage to win the basetrade
keep playing like this and dustin browder won't touch the infestor with a 10 foot balance pole.
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