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On November 08 2012 15:13 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:12 Dodgin wrote:On November 08 2012 15:10 sitromit wrote:
Widow mines will make it so Infestor/BL style slow deathball is the only way to play Zerg again, because you can't run out on the map with Lings or Mutas. solution: send a few lings forward to check for mines, and your overseer right behind it. Overseer doesn't move as fast as Zergling or Mutas. To check for and clear Widow Mines so as not to lose your units, you will need to move as slow as an overseer, which completely negates the mobility advantage of Mutas or Lings.
well, I really doubt the whole map is going to be covered in these things considering they take up 2 supply. we'll see how it goes.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On November 08 2012 15:15 andaylin wrote:
whats that glowy stuff on the zerglings.
parasite.
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On November 08 2012 15:12 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:00 Ender2701 wrote:
HoTS actually looked pretty awesome though, I just hope mech works vs toss, I think with EMP it can, or maybe decrease immortal shield and add more health or something. Maybe decrease shield and increase damage? I think that'd make the immortal a pretty interesting unit and immortal drops could be pretty awesome if they did more damage at the cost of having less life, but could dodge shots using the warp prism. Immortals already 2 shot workers. If they could 1 shot them, it would be kind of OP.
Immortals can only two-shot probes without attack upgrades. +1 attack lets them take out drones, and +2 is needed for scvs (+3 if the scv's have enough upgrades)
A damage upgrade wouldnt really change that, honestly they feel extremely meh against scv's and terran in general from a harass standpoint compared to speedprism +2 immortals vs protoss, and even though that is significantly more powerful, it's extremely rare to see it
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Wtf oracles actually do sick DPS
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On November 08 2012 15:13 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:12 Dodgin wrote:On November 08 2012 15:10 sitromit wrote:
Widow mines will make it so Infestor/BL style slow deathball is the only way to play Zerg again, because you can't run out on the map with Lings or Mutas. solution: send a few lings forward to check for mines, and your overseer right behind it. Overseer doesn't move as fast as Zergling or Mutas. To check for and clear Widow Mines so as not to lose your units, you will need to move as slow as an overseer, which completely negates the mobility advantage of Mutas or Lings.
That is the whole point. Zergs currently have too much map control with lings and mutas (if they go muta).
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On November 08 2012 15:15 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:15 andaylin wrote:
whats that glowy stuff on the zerglings. parasite.
like, queen parasite in BW?
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ZvP already looks more fun to watch :D
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On November 08 2012 15:16 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:15 stuchiu wrote:On November 08 2012 15:15 andaylin wrote:
whats that glowy stuff on the zerglings. parasite. like, queen parasite in BW?
yep, but area of effect.
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Time warp should slow down friendly units, this is stupid
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Ok this looks like fun 
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i wonder at what point nestea goes "fuck this, I'm making infestors"
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On November 08 2012 15:17 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:16 andaylin wrote:On November 08 2012 15:15 stuchiu wrote:On November 08 2012 15:15 andaylin wrote:
whats that glowy stuff on the zerglings. parasite. like, queen parasite in BW? yep, but area of effect.
ah, cool cool.
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Time Warp on the mineral line over Entomb...
David Kim: "nono, it was supposed to be used in battles. Trust me"
Well played Blizzard, well played.
On November 08 2012 15:18 eviltomahawk wrote:
GET OVER HERE!
Every esport needs its Pudge = P
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On November 08 2012 15:16 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:12 vthree wrote:On November 08 2012 15:00 Ender2701 wrote:
HoTS actually looked pretty awesome though, I just hope mech works vs toss, I think with EMP it can, or maybe decrease immortal shield and add more health or something. Maybe decrease shield and increase damage? I think that'd make the immortal a pretty interesting unit and immortal drops could be pretty awesome if they did more damage at the cost of having less life, but could dodge shots using the warp prism. Immortals already 2 shot workers. If they could 1 shot them, it would be kind of OP. Immortals can only two-shot probes without attack upgrades. +1 attack lets them take out drones, and +2 is needed for scvs (+3 if the scv's have enough upgrades) A damage upgrade wouldnt really change that, honestly they feel extremely meh against scv's and terran in general from a harass standpoint compared to speedprism +2 immortals vs protoss, and even though that is significantly more powerful, it's extremely rare to see it
Problem is that they already do too much damage to roaches and tanks right now. And since they are usually in the back lines, decrease shields (unless they decrease it by a lot) will not offset the increase damage.
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On November 08 2012 15:16 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2012 15:13 sitromit wrote:On November 08 2012 15:12 Dodgin wrote:On November 08 2012 15:10 sitromit wrote:
Widow mines will make it so Infestor/BL style slow deathball is the only way to play Zerg again, because you can't run out on the map with Lings or Mutas. solution: send a few lings forward to check for mines, and your overseer right behind it. Overseer doesn't move as fast as Zergling or Mutas. To check for and clear Widow Mines so as not to lose your units, you will need to move as slow as an overseer, which completely negates the mobility advantage of Mutas or Lings. That is the whole point. Zergs currently have too much map control with lings and mutas (if they go muta).
Well, hope everyone enjoys turtle BL/Infestor style, because that's what you'll be getting more of.
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lol rain putting on a good demonstration
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The Protoss air so far making me happy.
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EPT
