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Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 06 2012 10:47 GMT
#701
On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote:
Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads.


haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about.


ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 10:47:53
November 06 2012 10:47 GMT
#702
On November 06 2012 19:46 opterown wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=2321&part=games&vs=Z&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=2&from_day=8&to_year=2012&to_month=10&to_day=25&action=Update#tblt-4787-1-default-0-entombed

such a great PvZ winrate on entombed, 12-2

turns out blink stalkers are really good if you're on equal income with zergs

somewhere hongun smiles every time seed picks this map
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 10:48:44
November 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#703
On November 06 2012 19:46 Hiea wrote:
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On November 06 2012 19:45 Waxangel wrote:
it doesn't happen enough, but people HAVE used seed's predictability on this map against him ;/


I predict Seed to do something completely different from his standard 3 base play.


wonwonwon again?

e: whoops, nvm
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
November 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#704
LMAO
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#705
MASS VR DO IT!!!
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
November 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#706
That gave me disturbing thoughts.
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
November 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#707
haha.. bromance :D
Try again, fail better.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#708
I don't think I've seen Seed do SG builds on this map.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33649 Posts
November 06 2012 10:48 GMT
#709
Entombed Valley
Seed: Top-Left
Sniper: Bottom-Right

00:00 - 06:00
Normal opens, nexus-forge expand for Seed, three base stuff for Sniper.

Tastosis burn time by talking about working out while they wait for someone to do something interesting.

Seed goes stargate, instead of his usual 3 nexus on entombed.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
November 06 2012 10:49 GMT
#710
On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote:
Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads.


haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about.


ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny.

Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 06 2012 10:49 GMT
#711
Stahhhgaytuu?????
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 06 2012 10:49 GMT
#712
On November 06 2012 19:46 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 19:44 opterown wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:43 phyre112 wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:31 opterown wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:30 phyre112 wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:24 opterown wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:23 Maloreon wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:20 silent_owl wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:19 phyre112 wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:14 Destructicon wrote:
[quote]

Probably wrong thread, and 30 void rays will never in a million years beat 40 infestors.

Anyway, go go Seed, definitely my favorite Protoss (yes even more so then Rain).


He's saying he hopes to see seed use void rays.

And since you apparently didn't watch fight club, Hyun made 19 broods, 38 infestors and 5 corruptors in game 4. He lost to like 20 voids, 4 collossi and a dozen archons, plus stalker warp-ins, Finale lost none of the voids, and only two of the collossi, then went on to roll over Hyun.


That is interesting actually. I haven't seen any pros use Voids in a WHILE. I mean, not in the way they used to during the colossus void deathball era.


Funny I've been told so many time the last few weeks by Toss that you absolutely 100% can't beat late game Hive tech armies... I've always been pretty sure a proper VR based lategame deathball can (as well as some Terran armies). We're talking 30 minutes of turtle fest godmode macro and defense though and not many want to try it I guess. I can only hope.

fungal + corruptors + IT will defeat voids pretty easily


You say this, but there's specific evidence of a game where it didn't happen.

The voids went unscouted until there were 20 of them, and then between them and the collossi, every time an IT egg went down it was instantly killed. 40 infestors worth of energy. Sure, fungal alone probably could have done it given enough time, but that's different, and it doesn't apply in the situation that Hyun was in.

honestly haha if you allow a protoss to get 20 voids, you deserve to lose lol


honestly haha if you allow a Zerg to get 20 broods and 40 infestors you deserve to lose lol

see what I did there?

zerg turtle is much stronger than protoss turtle imo, infestors are great utility in any number, and broods are a natural progression


Weird arguments. Just b/c Zerg turtle is stronger (debatable, depends on what stage of the game we're talking about, its probably defensible for any race to turtle honestly) doesn't mean Protoss can't. The argument was you act like Protoss are somehow just going to fall over and die to 20 lings while the Zerg races to hive. VR's have their uses too so its not an entirely unnatural progression. Theorycrafting at this point is kind of dumb, lets watch the season and see if anyone replicates the build.


40 minute 20 void game incoming.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
November 06 2012 10:49 GMT
#713
I liked the 3bases mass stalkers
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 06 2012 10:50 GMT
#714
On November 06 2012 19:49 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 19:46 Maloreon wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:44 opterown wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:43 phyre112 wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:31 opterown wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:30 phyre112 wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:24 opterown wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:23 Maloreon wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:20 silent_owl wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:19 phyre112 wrote:
[quote]

He's saying he hopes to see seed use void rays.

And since you apparently didn't watch fight club, Hyun made 19 broods, 38 infestors and 5 corruptors in game 4. He lost to like 20 voids, 4 collossi and a dozen archons, plus stalker warp-ins, Finale lost none of the voids, and only two of the collossi, then went on to roll over Hyun.


That is interesting actually. I haven't seen any pros use Voids in a WHILE. I mean, not in the way they used to during the colossus void deathball era.


Funny I've been told so many time the last few weeks by Toss that you absolutely 100% can't beat late game Hive tech armies... I've always been pretty sure a proper VR based lategame deathball can (as well as some Terran armies). We're talking 30 minutes of turtle fest godmode macro and defense though and not many want to try it I guess. I can only hope.

fungal + corruptors + IT will defeat voids pretty easily


You say this, but there's specific evidence of a game where it didn't happen.

The voids went unscouted until there were 20 of them, and then between them and the collossi, every time an IT egg went down it was instantly killed. 40 infestors worth of energy. Sure, fungal alone probably could have done it given enough time, but that's different, and it doesn't apply in the situation that Hyun was in.

honestly haha if you allow a protoss to get 20 voids, you deserve to lose lol


honestly haha if you allow a Zerg to get 20 broods and 40 infestors you deserve to lose lol

see what I did there?

zerg turtle is much stronger than protoss turtle imo, infestors are great utility in any number, and broods are a natural progression


Weird arguments. Just b/c Zerg turtle is stronger (debatable, depends on what stage of the game we're talking about, its probably defensible for any race to turtle honestly) doesn't mean Protoss can't. The argument was you act like Protoss are somehow just going to fall over and die to 20 lings while the Zerg races to hive. VR's have their uses too so its not an entirely unnatural progression. Theorycrafting at this point is kind of dumb, lets watch the season and see if anyone replicates the build.


40 minute 20 void game incoming.


We can only hope!
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 06 2012 10:50 GMT
#715
On November 06 2012 19:49 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote:
Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads.


haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about.


ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny.

Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds.


That was like the only game that it didn't ruin lol...
Revolutionist fan
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 10:50:51
November 06 2012 10:50 GMT
#716
oh god, does this analogy mean (Game of thrones book spoilers unless my memory is failing me and it's happened in the show) + Show Spoiler +
THE GSL DIES? SOMEONE SAVE STARCRAFT, i don't want to watch the rightful ms dota2 battle with baby LoL
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
November 06 2012 10:50 GMT
#717
On November 06 2012 19:49 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote:
Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads.


haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about.


ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny.

Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds.

vs leenock?
leenock won that game with sick baneling burrow yo
IM & EG supporter
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 06 2012 10:51 GMT
#718
On November 06 2012 19:50 Jehct wrote:
oh god, does this analogy mean (Game of thrones book spoilers unless my memory is failing me and it's happened in the show) + Show Spoiler +
THE GSL DIES? SOMEONE SAVE STARCRAFT, i don't want to watch the rightful ms dota2 battle with baby LoL


Tasteless probably has not read up to that point.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 06 2012 10:51 GMT
#719
This reminds me of Genius' build.... When he got CRUSHED by hydra/roach drops :/
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 06 2012 10:51 GMT
#720
On November 06 2012 19:50 AgentChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2012 19:49 Femari wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:
On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote:
Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads.


haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about.


ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny.

Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds.

vs leenock?
leenock won that game with sick baneling burrow yo


Yeah that game was already over but the infestors put the nail in the coffin.
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