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On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote: Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads. haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about.
ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny.
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turns out blink stalkers are really good if you're on equal income with zergs
somewhere hongun smiles every time seed picks this map
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On November 06 2012 19:46 Hiea wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:45 Waxangel wrote: it doesn't happen enough, but people HAVE used seed's predictability on this map against him ;/ I predict Seed to do something completely different from his standard 3 base play. wonwonwon again?
e: whoops, nvm
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That gave me disturbing thoughts.
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I don't think I've seen Seed do SG builds on this map.
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On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote: Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads. haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about. ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny. Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds.
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On November 06 2012 19:46 Maloreon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:44 opterown wrote:On November 06 2012 19:43 phyre112 wrote:On November 06 2012 19:31 opterown wrote:On November 06 2012 19:30 phyre112 wrote: On November 06 2012 19:24 opterown wrote:On November 06 2012 19:23 Maloreon wrote:On November 06 2012 19:20 silent_owl wrote:On November 06 2012 19:19 phyre112 wrote:On November 06 2012 19:14 Destructicon wrote: [quote]
Probably wrong thread, and 30 void rays will never in a million years beat 40 infestors.
Anyway, go go Seed, definitely my favorite Protoss (yes even more so then Rain). He's saying he hopes to see seed use void rays. And since you apparently didn't watch fight club, Hyun made 19 broods, 38 infestors and 5 corruptors in game 4. He lost to like 20 voids, 4 collossi and a dozen archons, plus stalker warp-ins, Finale lost none of the voids, and only two of the collossi, then went on to roll over Hyun. That is interesting actually. I haven't seen any pros use Voids in a WHILE. I mean, not in the way they used to during the colossus void deathball era. Funny I've been told so many time the last few weeks by Toss that you absolutely 100% can't beat late game Hive tech armies... I've always been pretty sure a proper VR based lategame deathball can (as well as some Terran armies). We're talking 30 minutes of turtle fest godmode macro and defense though and not many want to try it I guess. I can only hope.  fungal + corruptors + IT will defeat voids pretty easily You say this, but there's specific evidence of a game where it didn't happen. The voids went unscouted until there were 20 of them, and then between them and the collossi, every time an IT egg went down it was instantly killed. 40 infestors worth of energy. Sure, fungal alone probably could have done it given enough time, but that's different, and it doesn't apply in the situation that Hyun was in. honestly haha if you allow a protoss to get 20 voids, you deserve to lose lol honestly haha if you allow a Zerg to get 20 broods and 40 infestors you deserve to lose lol see what I did there? zerg turtle is much stronger than protoss turtle imo, infestors are great utility in any number, and broods are a natural progression Weird arguments. Just b/c Zerg turtle is stronger (debatable, depends on what stage of the game we're talking about, its probably defensible for any race to turtle honestly) doesn't mean Protoss can't. The argument was you act like Protoss are somehow just going to fall over and die to 20 lings while the Zerg races to hive. VR's have their uses too so its not an entirely unnatural progression. Theorycrafting at this point is kind of dumb, lets watch the season and see if anyone replicates the build.
40 minute 20 void game incoming.
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I liked the 3bases mass stalkers
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On November 06 2012 19:49 phyre112 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:46 Maloreon wrote:On November 06 2012 19:44 opterown wrote:On November 06 2012 19:43 phyre112 wrote:On November 06 2012 19:31 opterown wrote:On November 06 2012 19:30 phyre112 wrote: On November 06 2012 19:24 opterown wrote:On November 06 2012 19:23 Maloreon wrote:On November 06 2012 19:20 silent_owl wrote:On November 06 2012 19:19 phyre112 wrote: [quote]
He's saying he hopes to see seed use void rays.
And since you apparently didn't watch fight club, Hyun made 19 broods, 38 infestors and 5 corruptors in game 4. He lost to like 20 voids, 4 collossi and a dozen archons, plus stalker warp-ins, Finale lost none of the voids, and only two of the collossi, then went on to roll over Hyun. That is interesting actually. I haven't seen any pros use Voids in a WHILE. I mean, not in the way they used to during the colossus void deathball era. Funny I've been told so many time the last few weeks by Toss that you absolutely 100% can't beat late game Hive tech armies... I've always been pretty sure a proper VR based lategame deathball can (as well as some Terran armies). We're talking 30 minutes of turtle fest godmode macro and defense though and not many want to try it I guess. I can only hope.  fungal + corruptors + IT will defeat voids pretty easily You say this, but there's specific evidence of a game where it didn't happen. The voids went unscouted until there were 20 of them, and then between them and the collossi, every time an IT egg went down it was instantly killed. 40 infestors worth of energy. Sure, fungal alone probably could have done it given enough time, but that's different, and it doesn't apply in the situation that Hyun was in. honestly haha if you allow a protoss to get 20 voids, you deserve to lose lol honestly haha if you allow a Zerg to get 20 broods and 40 infestors you deserve to lose lol see what I did there? zerg turtle is much stronger than protoss turtle imo, infestors are great utility in any number, and broods are a natural progression Weird arguments. Just b/c Zerg turtle is stronger (debatable, depends on what stage of the game we're talking about, its probably defensible for any race to turtle honestly) doesn't mean Protoss can't. The argument was you act like Protoss are somehow just going to fall over and die to 20 lings while the Zerg races to hive. VR's have their uses too so its not an entirely unnatural progression. Theorycrafting at this point is kind of dumb, lets watch the season and see if anyone replicates the build. 40 minute 20 void game incoming.
We can only hope!
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On November 06 2012 19:49 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote: Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads. haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about. ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny. Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds.
That was like the only game that it didn't ruin lol...
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oh god, does this analogy mean (Game of thrones book spoilers unless my memory is failing me and it's happened in the show) + Show Spoiler +THE GSL DIES? SOMEONE SAVE STARCRAFT, i don't want to watch the rightful ms dota2 battle with baby LoL
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On November 06 2012 19:49 Femari wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote: Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads. haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about. ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny. Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds. vs leenock? leenock won that game with sick baneling burrow yo
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On November 06 2012 19:50 Jehct wrote:oh god, does this analogy mean (Game of thrones book spoilers unless my memory is failing me and it's happened in the show) + Show Spoiler +THE GSL DIES? SOMEONE SAVE STARCRAFT, i don't want to watch the rightful ms dota2 battle with baby LoL
Tasteless probably has not read up to that point.
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This reminds me of Genius' build.... When he got CRUSHED by hydra/roach drops :/
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On November 06 2012 19:50 AgentChaos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 19:49 Femari wrote:On November 06 2012 19:47 Maloreon wrote:On November 06 2012 19:45 Mandalor wrote:On November 06 2012 19:42 Maloreon wrote: Waiting for whining from Protoss about Infestor on that one... even though Seed completely got outplayed/screwed up. Good old LR threads. haven't seen protoss whine because of just infestors midgame. It's the broodlord/infestor combo that nullifies every possible movement that people have been complaining about. ROFL you missed MLG. EVERY SINGLE GAME where an infestor was made (some where it wasn't even used) resulted in immediate spam from everyone on Infestor strength, too funny. Infestor did ruin some good games though. I forget what game but I think it was Bomber playing a TvZ mass marine and it was very entertaining and then BAM infestor and the game was over in about 30 seconds. vs leenock? leenock won that game with sick baneling burrow yo
Yeah that game was already over but the infestors put the nail in the coffin.
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