EPTI really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise.
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
no, not all, but wcs asia had top 4 as all protoss. dont whine when the fact is that protoss has the upper hand against zerg atm with immortal sentry | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4510 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:10 Chrian wrote: Corruptors spread a lot quicker than Broodlords, you have a more limited time to target them coming out of the toilet, and MC didn't target them with the Archons. The archons came out of the vortex and just started splashing on broodlings in every direction instead of focusing down on the middle of the corruptor pack. this. movement speed factors into how fast they spread also. *air* | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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NExt
Australia1651 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:09 Aerisky wrote: Sigh that one made me sad ;__; Was there anything MC could have done after it went to lategame? Or is protoss really just out of options there, because that's certainly what it seemed like for MC despite how well he played a lot of the time. Oh well, I believe! >_< most Protoss would go to harassment based play. When I saw DRG overprepared for harassment and zealot run bys. I was lost on how MC could possibly win. | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:09 Teoita wrote: My spider sense tells me MC is not going to take a 3rd ever again in this series. Fix'd* | ||
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Fluid
Canada136 Posts
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snorlax1
Singapore233 Posts
 MC needs to all in :-? | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:06 Salteador Neo wrote: That has been known for the last 100 PvZs lol. MC cannot have the gas to remax like zerg can. Based on my observations, the player who creates the most successful harassment is often the player to come over the top in the end. I have BabyKnight vs Ret and vs Vortix from the WCS Europe finals fresh in my memory, where we see BabyK doing several games with successful harassments and then being able to reinforce his army well enough when the end game battles occured. I'm sure there are many other good examples of this. | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote: They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\ I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. A zerg late game nerf means a buff for mid game. People really need to think about how the wins are coming from z v p. Most are from infestor bl, because we can't end it in mid game. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4510 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:11 Fluid wrote: Well there you have it, with perfect micro and unit composition from both players in late game pvz always bet on the zerg to win. if both players are of even skill, i'd tend to agree. | ||
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Zaurus
Singapore676 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:10 dainbramage wrote: Hey, 50% of my ZvPs don't involve a third. Same. The other half don't involve a 4th. | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote: They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\ I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. | ||
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JyB
France466 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:10 silent_owl wrote: Beginning to understand how Daybreak is bad for P during late-game PvZ. Because of the way the map is, you can't take advantage of a more mobile Toss army. Exactly. Even if the 15 corruptor + 6 archon sequence was ridiculous. I think the map could also be blamed here, really difficult to take advantage of the slow Z lategame army. | ||
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Noizhende
Austria328 Posts
+ healthbars would be really nice | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:12 Zaurus wrote: LOL! Late game PvZ is boring! I prefer 2 base immortal all in, cause Toss has a higher chance of winning! Yeah, when one race's highest chance of winning against another race is a 2 base all in, then you know there's something fundamentally flawed with the match up.  | ||
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morlakaix
United States860 Posts
On October 16 2012 20:10 X3GoldDot wrote: no, not all, but wcs asia had top 4 as all protoss. dont whine when the fact is that protoss has the upper hand against zerg atm with immortal sentry WCS asia, with high tiered zerg players such as Ian AK Sen Slam and Fly...( no offence) right, those players can definitely take on hero parting squirtle rain and seed lol....this isn't even an argument and LOL you're saying protoss is stronger than zerg just because of one 2 base all in HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA are you trolling? User was warned for this post | ||
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