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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 10 2012 00:19 GMT
#161
On October 10 2012 09:16 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?


Nah, nobody does that because an ultra switch = GG


It only takes 2-3 cloaked ghosts to emp all of the infestors...That isn't going to make you lose to an ultra switch
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
October 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#162
On October 10 2012 09:19 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:15 Whatson wrote:
LOL guys remember when Zerg was said to be underpowered?
Blizzard said "There's some stuff they haven't explored yet"
Guess we figured out what that was.


What you mean is maps were dramatically changed, zerg got dozens of buffs, and t/p got dozens of nerfs right? Sorry but zerg was grossly bad at the beginning of WoL. Revisionist history really bothers me.


Lol terran was the only one to get "dozens of nerfs"
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
October 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#163
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.

Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
in a state of trance
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#164
On October 10 2012 09:19 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:16 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?


Nah, nobody does that because an ultra switch = GG


It only takes 2-3 cloaked ghosts to emp all of the infestors...That isn't going to make you lose to an ultra switch


how in the world are you going to emp all the infestors when broodlords are around? as long as they have detection of course.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
October 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#165
On October 10 2012 09:19 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:16 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?


Nah, nobody does that because an ultra switch = GG


It only takes 2-3 cloaked ghosts to emp all of the infestors...That isn't going to make you lose to an ultra switch


Yeah if the zerg has no idea the ghosts are there.. Zergs make 12-15 infestors, not 5-8. 3 ghosts is not enough to get rid of their energy
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 10 2012 00:20 GMT
#166
On October 10 2012 09:17 MasterKang wrote:
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On October 10 2012 09:13 opterown wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:13 MasterKang wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.


slayers never needed saving lolz

not doing particularly well lately tbh


they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that

How about individual leagues bro.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
October 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#167
On October 10 2012 09:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Dark is the zerg version of Flash. He wins, but it's so tedious and boring you want to take spoons to your eyes to ease the pain.

According to that logic every Zerg is the zerg version of Flash
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
October 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#168
On October 10 2012 09:18 Supter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?


Ghosts are useless, infestors are way too big :/

They're as big as a stalker, their model just makes them look fatter than their hitbox actually is. I think you can hit about 9 infestors with 1 emp
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
October 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#169
On October 10 2012 09:17 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:13 opterown wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:13 MasterKang wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.


slayers never needed saving lolz

not doing particularly well lately tbh


they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that

They aren't winning everything, which means that everyone gets to say "herp derp slayers so dead lulz." I can't believe how many "boxer left, the team is dead" comments i've seen.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#170
On October 10 2012 09:21 speknek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Dark is the zerg version of Flash. He wins, but it's so tedious and boring you want to take spoons to your eyes to ease the pain.

According to that logic every Zerg is the zerg version of Flash


Nope, not Life or Leenock!

Or Suhoshin.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
October 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#171
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.

Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition


Please don't suggest bringing amulet back.. With protoss skill nowadays, the only balanced matchups would be the mirrors
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 00:22:51
October 10 2012 00:21 GMT
#172
On October 10 2012 09:18 Supter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?


Ghosts are useless, infestors are way too big :/


Taeja answered to this in a recent interview.
His main objection to ghosts was how zerg can easily tech switch to ultra and nullify ghosts usefulness significantly. But I like the argument that infestors are too large. If they were smaller and 3-4 ghosts worth of EMPs could eliminate at least half of the fungals, it might still be worth it. Right now you would need almost a ghost for every infestor and it would still be a positional fight against lings and broodlords.

The whole idea of making infestors smaller seems so practical.
It doesn't nerf any of the spells, while making all AOE of both Protoss and Terran more potent against them, forcing Zerg to micro much more to keep them safe.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 10 2012 00:22 GMT
#173
Ok no ghosts then.

On October 10 2012 09:17 Vaftrudner wrote:
So this Zenio game is the one they showed at the beginning of the broadcast, as well as announcing the Taeja game on Ohana. So I can't give any more spoilers now.

I got a lot of PMs before though. Jeez, you guys like your spoilers


New business idea: subscription for instant spoilers. KA-THING!!! $$$
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
October 10 2012 00:22 GMT
#174
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.

Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition

Christ PartinG would have a field day...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 10 2012 00:23 GMT
#175
On October 10 2012 09:22 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.

Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition

Christ PartinG would have a field day...

Lol forget PartinG. Rain would be unbeatable.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
October 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#176
On October 10 2012 09:22 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.

Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition

Christ PartinG would have a field day...


PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
October 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#177
So basically zenio has to all kill for liquid to have a shot?
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
October 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#178
On October 10 2012 09:19 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:16 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?


Nah, nobody does that because an ultra switch = GG


It only takes 2-3 cloaked ghosts to emp all of the infestors...That isn't going to make you lose to an ultra switch


It doesn't matter, it takes like 3 fungals to guarantee victory in corruptor vs viking battles. Seeker is way more effective and is the perfect gas dump for the late game. Taeja has been neglecting getting extra starports for ravens in every TvZ I've seen in the last couple of weeks. Its just that he's destroying them so hard in the midgame that the zerg gets overwhelmed by viking numbers before the broodlord / corruptor / infestor count becomes "stupid".
But he doesn't seem to have a plan "b" for when zerg just sits on his ass and gets critical mass.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#179
On October 10 2012 09:24 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:22 Whatson wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.

Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition

Christ PartinG would have a field day...


PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.

All terrans? Even when snipe was considered "OP" the only person I saw using them effectively was MVP.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
October 10 2012 00:24 GMT
#180
On October 10 2012 09:22 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote:
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.

Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition

Christ PartinG would have a field day...


If they removed warp gates Amulet'd probably be fair, but if not every finals ever would be Bison vs Dishwasher toss :p
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