On October 10 2012 09:15 Whatson wrote: LOL guys remember when Zerg was said to be underpowered? Blizzard said "There's some stuff they haven't explored yet" Guess we figured out what that was.
What you mean is maps were dramatically changed, zerg got dozens of buffs, and t/p got dozens of nerfs right? Sorry but zerg was grossly bad at the beginning of WoL. Revisionist history really bothers me.
Lol terran was the only one to get "dozens of nerfs"
Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
On October 10 2012 09:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote: Dark is the zerg version of Flash. He wins, but it's so tedious and boring you want to take spoons to your eyes to ease the pain.
According to that logic every Zerg is the zerg version of Flash
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
They aren't winning everything, which means that everyone gets to say "herp derp slayers so dead lulz." I can't believe how many "boxer left, the team is dead" comments i've seen.
On October 10 2012 09:13 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote: Dark is the zerg version of Flash. He wins, but it's so tedious and boring you want to take spoons to your eyes to ease the pain.
According to that logic every Zerg is the zerg version of Flash
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
Please don't suggest bringing amulet back.. With protoss skill nowadays, the only balanced matchups would be the mirrors
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote: Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?
Ghosts are useless, infestors are way too big :/
Taeja answered to this in a recent interview. His main objection to ghosts was how zerg can easily tech switch to ultra and nullify ghosts usefulness significantly. But I like the argument that infestors are too large. If they were smaller and 3-4 ghosts worth of EMPs could eliminate at least half of the fungals, it might still be worth it. Right now you would need almost a ghost for every infestor and it would still be a positional fight against lings and broodlords.
The whole idea of making infestors smaller seems so practical. It doesn't nerf any of the spells, while making all AOE of both Protoss and Terran more potent against them, forcing Zerg to micro much more to keep them safe.
On October 10 2012 09:17 Vaftrudner wrote: So this Zenio game is the one they showed at the beginning of the broadcast, as well as announcing the Taeja game on Ohana. So I can't give any more spoilers now.
I got a lot of PMs before though. Jeez, you guys like your spoilers
New business idea: subscription for instant spoilers. KA-THING!!! $$$
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
Christ PartinG would have a field day...
PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
On October 10 2012 09:15 AlternativeEgo wrote: Would ghosts do the trick with emp and snipe to cancel the infestors or are they too ineffective?
Nah, nobody does that because an ultra switch = GG
It only takes 2-3 cloaked ghosts to emp all of the infestors...That isn't going to make you lose to an ultra switch
It doesn't matter, it takes like 3 fungals to guarantee victory in corruptor vs viking battles. Seeker is way more effective and is the perfect gas dump for the late game. Taeja has been neglecting getting extra starports for ravens in every TvZ I've seen in the last couple of weeks. Its just that he's destroying them so hard in the midgame that the zerg gets overwhelmed by viking numbers before the broodlord / corruptor / infestor count becomes "stupid". But he doesn't seem to have a plan "b" for when zerg just sits on his ass and gets critical mass.
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
Christ PartinG would have a field day...
PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
All terrans? Even when snipe was considered "OP" the only person I saw using them effectively was MVP.
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
Christ PartinG would have a field day...
If they removed warp gates Amulet'd probably be fair, but if not every finals ever would be Bison vs Dishwasher toss :p