On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
My point was merely that Slayers isn't just a zombie + Show Spoiler +
infested terran
team waiting to die, they are just not doing as well as in the past. Every team has its ups and downs, after all.
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
Christ PartinG would have a field day...
PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
All terrans? Even when snipe was considered "OP" the only person I saw using them effectively was MVP.
Not sure what terrans you were watching. That guy had it right, I remember tons of terrans using mass ghost.
lol like who, only other person I recall is MMA using it to clown around on Metropolis vs Stephano at IPL, and that was after the nerf I think.
He was using nukes, not snipe or emp
Yeah, that's true too. Btw your Slayers roster in your signature is quite outdated.
every player in his signature has either left the team, not showed up to any events, has left the slayers house or not in the GSL x.x
That was the team I cheered for, not Dark-Miso-Miya-KDY-Arthur :'(
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
Christ PartinG would have a field day...
PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
All terrans? Even when snipe was considered "OP" the only person I saw using them effectively was MVP.
Not sure what terrans you were watching. That guy had it right, I remember tons of terrans using mass ghost.
lol like who, only other person I recall is MMA using it to clown around on Metropolis vs Stephano at IPL, and that was after the nerf I think.
He was using nukes, not snipe or emp
Yeah, that's true too. Btw your Slayers roster in your signature is quite outdated.
every player in his signature has either left the team, not showed up to any events, has left the slayers house or not in the GSL x.x
That was the team I cheered for, not Dark-Miso-Miya-KDY-Arthur :'(
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
They aren't winning everything, which means that everyone gets to say "herp derp slayers so dead lulz." I can't believe how many "boxer left, the team is dead" comments i've seen.
it's not only boxer, but MMA is not doing as well as he should or used to, ryung and genius aren't doing that great (both lost in code a yesterday), and coca/puzzle are out of the GSL. they got backtoback all killed in the GSTL, and are relying on their second-string upcomers like miso, dark, etc. the team isn't nearly what it used to be, with boxer/mma/ganzi/taeja/ryung/coca/puzzle
Everything you said is true, however, coca and puzzle both have pneumonia, which were probably slayers top 2 in the past months. Genius is rather overrated because of a miracle run in 2012 GSL 1, and Ryung has never been a championship contender. Yes, MMA is not doing as well as he was, but if not for the other circumstances, is wouldn't matter so much in leagues.
lol at Genius being overrated. He absolutely dominated everyone he faced on his run to the finals. He would have won too if he didn't choke so horribly. Idk how he fell off so much but his run was not a miracle. He looked clearly better than everyone he played. He didn't all-in his way to the finals or anything like that.
On October 10 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote: I'm pretty sure Liquid can win this now that Dark is out. In the new SlayerS roster, only Genius is a real threat.
Well keep in mind that the remaining liquid players aren't too strong. I would favor SlayerS in this position.
On October 10 2012 09:20 nokz88 wrote: Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we brought back Snipe, EMP, and amulet... Those looked OP yes, but it was when people weren't as good as today.
Terrans and Protosses would have SOMETHING against this bullshit composition
Christ PartinG would have a field day...
PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
All terrans? Even when snipe was considered "OP" the only person I saw using them effectively was MVP.
Not sure what terrans you were watching. That guy had it right, I remember tons of terrans using mass ghost.
lol like who, only other person I recall is MMA using it to clown around on Metropolis vs Stephano at IPL, and that was after the nerf I think.
He was using nukes, not snipe or emp
Yeah, that's true too. Btw your Slayers roster in your signature is quite outdated.
every player in his signature has either left the team, not showed up to any events, has left the slayers house or not in the GSL x.x
That was the team I cheered for, not Dark-Miso-Miya-KDY-Arthur :'(
I like Miya. He's got personality. Arthur is solid, though I honestly don't know much about him personality-wise. Dark's play isn't that impressive, but he's gotten some solid wins.
On October 10 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote: I'm pretty sure Liquid can win this now that Dark is out. In the new SlayerS roster, only Genius is a real threat.
Well keep in mind that the remaining liquid players aren't too strong. I would favor SlayerS in this position.
Obviously, but I'm more keen in Ret or Sheth winning against Miya, Arthur , KDY and all than against MMA / Ryung / Alicia etc..
On October 10 2012 09:22 Whatson wrote: [quote] Christ PartinG would have a field day...
PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
All terrans? Even when snipe was considered "OP" the only person I saw using them effectively was MVP.
Not sure what terrans you were watching. That guy had it right, I remember tons of terrans using mass ghost.
lol like who, only other person I recall is MMA using it to clown around on Metropolis vs Stephano at IPL, and that was after the nerf I think.
He was using nukes, not snipe or emp
Yeah, that's true too. Btw your Slayers roster in your signature is quite outdated.
every player in his signature has either left the team, not showed up to any events, has left the slayers house or not in the GSL x.x
That was the team I cheered for, not Dark-Miso-Miya-KDY-Arthur :'(
I like Miya. He's got personality. Arthur is solid, though I honestly don't know much about him personality-wise. Dark's play isn't that impressive, but he's gotten some solid wins.
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
They aren't winning everything, which means that everyone gets to say "herp derp slayers so dead lulz." I can't believe how many "boxer left, the team is dead" comments i've seen.
it's not only boxer, but MMA is not doing as well as he should or used to, ryung and genius aren't doing that great (both lost in code a yesterday), and coca/puzzle are out of the GSL. they got backtoback all killed in the GSTL, and are relying on their second-string upcomers like miso, dark, etc. the team isn't nearly what it used to be, with boxer/mma/ganzi/taeja/ryung/coca/puzzle
I'll just copy and paste what I said to the other guy who posed irrelevant information:
"how are individual leagues relevant when we're talking about IPTL? He said "bl/infestor saves SlayerS", implying that bl/infestor has saved SlayerS in this series, which is a team league match. I said Slayers never needed saving, meaning they never needed saving in a team league situation. Individual results are irreleevant"
well, i was talking about how slayers isn't doing particularly well, which is more where this discussion is coming from, not this team league game in particular.
If you were referring to individual results when you originally said "not doing particularly well" then you obviously were not able to interpret what we were talking about. Individual results are absolutely NOT where this discussion is coming from.
"Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears." This was clearly referring to the team league match at hand, seeing as how this comment was made when Dark began to turn things around against TaeJa with blord/infestor during THIS team league match.
On October 10 2012 09:36 Noocta wrote: I'm pretty sure Liquid can win this now that Dark is out. In the new SlayerS roster, only Genius is a real threat.
mmm don't doubt brown's PvZ. If Sea was in the lineup i think liquid would be okay, but without another solid terran or protoss, liquid looks to still be in trouble =/
On October 10 2012 09:24 PhoenixVoid wrote: [quote]
PartinG and Rain would be even stronger in PvT, while all Terrans will return to having 15-20 Ghosts in late game TvZ.
All terrans? Even when snipe was considered "OP" the only person I saw using them effectively was MVP.
Not sure what terrans you were watching. That guy had it right, I remember tons of terrans using mass ghost.
lol like who, only other person I recall is MMA using it to clown around on Metropolis vs Stephano at IPL, and that was after the nerf I think.
He was using nukes, not snipe or emp
Yeah, that's true too. Btw your Slayers roster in your signature is quite outdated.
every player in his signature has either left the team, not showed up to any events, has left the slayers house or not in the GSL x.x
That was the team I cheered for, not Dark-Miso-Miya-KDY-Arthur :'(
I like Miya. He's got personality. Arthur is solid, though I honestly don't know much about him personality-wise. Dark's play isn't that impressive, but he's gotten some solid wins.
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