Genius is pretty hard to rate, because he's been a "good but not great" for almost his entire career, but somehow played quite well for one season. Whether that was luck or just a sudden burst of concentration and real skill is pretty debatable. But right now? He's back to being just 'good.'
On October 10 2012 09:54 geokilla wrote: Wow looks like my prediction was way off, on how TL's foreigners would crush Slayers B team... Already crushed the Koreans. GG.
At least wait to see the coming results before you say that. :O
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On October 10 2012 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Genius is pretty hard to rate, because he's been a "good but not great" for almost his entire career, but somehow played quite well for one season. Whether that was luck or just a sudden burst of concentration and real skill is pretty debatable. But right now? He's back to being just 'good.'
As much as I would love to see Genius do well again and have this not be true, I have to agree.
On October 10 2012 09:40 Dodgin wrote: I forgot Alicia existed, where the hell has he been? Not played for Slayers in team leagues either for a while I think.
He got second place in 3 foreign tournaments during the summer this year, now he's kinda off the map.
On October 10 2012 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Genius is pretty hard to rate, because he's been a "good but not great" for almost his entire career, but somehow played quite well for one season. Whether that was luck or just a sudden burst of concentration and real skill is pretty debatable. But right now? He's back to being just 'good.'
I think Genius is like the 15th best Protoss in Korea, if that's " good ".
On October 10 2012 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Genius is pretty hard to rate, because he's been a "good but not great" for almost his entire career, but somehow played quite well for one season. Whether that was luck or just a sudden burst of concentration and real skill is pretty debatable. But right now? He's back to being just 'good.'
I'm on the opinion Genius is lacking motivation to play good. He's back on his " I'm doing well enough "
I have no idea where he is GSL wise tho. oO I need to check that
On October 10 2012 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Genius is pretty hard to rate, because he's been a "good but not great" for almost his entire career, but somehow played quite well for one season. Whether that was luck or just a sudden burst of concentration and real skill is pretty debatable. But right now? He's back to being just 'good.'
I'm on the opinion Genius is lacking motivation to play good. He's back on his " I'm doing well enough "
I have no idea where he is GSL wise tho. oO I need to check that
On October 10 2012 09:13 MasterKang wrote: [quote]
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
MMA was in a group with TaeJa, Mana, and MVP, two of whom are currently in the RO4 and poised to take this GSL. MKP was in a group with Curious, JD, and MC. He lost to Curious, then beat JD and MC 2-1. Jaedong's play has been wholly uninspiring. And MC just got demolished by alive 2-0 in the Ro32 Code A. Not exactly contextually correct to say that "MKP's ro8 is better than MMA ro32" seeing as how MKP would've been demolished in MMA's group
doesn't matter, ro8 > ro32 in my book
lol well clearly your book doesn't mind taking things out of context
also, i don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp is doing better lately than mma lately, too (for most of this year), so can't see how you miss that context too.
I wouldn't disagree with that either. But we're not talking about overall results 2012. We're talking about their most recent code s performance. And I don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp's opponents in gsl were 50x easier than mma's to get to ro8
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
MMA was in a group with TaeJa, Mana, and MVP, two of whom are currently in the RO4 and poised to take this GSL. MKP was in a group with Curious, JD, and MC. He lost to Curious, then beat JD and MC 2-1. Jaedong's play has been wholly uninspiring. And MC just got demolished by alive 2-0 in the Ro32 Code A. Not exactly contextually correct to say that "MKP's ro8 is better than MMA ro32" seeing as how MKP would've been demolished in MMA's group
The thing is the reason MMA was put in that group is because of his lackluster GSL performance throughout 2012. MMA was considered a Tier 3 player for this season while MKP was considered a Tier 2. It would have been 100% impossible for MKP, MVP, and Taeja to be in the same group so it doesn't matter that if MKP was in that group he would have got eliminated.
On October 10 2012 09:13 opterown wrote: [quote] not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
MMA was in a group with TaeJa, Mana, and MVP, two of whom are currently in the RO4 and poised to take this GSL. MKP was in a group with Curious, JD, and MC. He lost to Curious, then beat JD and MC 2-1. Jaedong's play has been wholly uninspiring. And MC just got demolished by alive 2-0 in the Ro32 Code A. Not exactly contextually correct to say that "MKP's ro8 is better than MMA ro32" seeing as how MKP would've been demolished in MMA's group
doesn't matter, ro8 > ro32 in my book
lol well clearly your book doesn't mind taking things out of context
also, i don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp is doing better lately than mma lately, too (for most of this year), so can't see how you miss that context too.
I wouldn't disagree with that either. But we're not talking about overall results 2012. We're talking about their most recent code s performance. And I don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp's opponents in gsl were 50x easier than mma's to get to ro8
it's tough to make that argument because we don't know who MMA would have faced in the Ro16.
On October 10 2012 09:54 Waxangel wrote: Genius is pretty hard to rate, because he's been a "good but not great" for almost his entire career, but somehow played quite well for one season. Whether that was luck or just a sudden burst of concentration and real skill is pretty debatable. But right now? He's back to being just 'good.'
I'm on the opinion Genius is lacking motivation to play good. He's back on his " I'm doing well enough "
I have no idea where he is GSL wise tho. oO I need to check that
He lost to Bbyong last night in Code A Round 2.
Barely. He really threw that last game away, forgetting charge and overmaking stalkers. But I guess stalker heavy armies is Genius's style
On October 10 2012 09:13 opterown wrote: [quote] not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
MMA was in a group with TaeJa, Mana, and MVP, two of whom are currently in the RO4 and poised to take this GSL. MKP was in a group with Curious, JD, and MC. He lost to Curious, then beat JD and MC 2-1. Jaedong's play has been wholly uninspiring. And MC just got demolished by alive 2-0 in the Ro32 Code A. Not exactly contextually correct to say that "MKP's ro8 is better than MMA ro32" seeing as how MKP would've been demolished in MMA's group
doesn't matter, ro8 > ro32 in my book
lol well clearly your book doesn't mind taking things out of context
also, i don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp is doing better lately than mma lately, too (for most of this year), so can't see how you miss that context too.
I wouldn't disagree with that either. But we're not talking about overall results 2012. We're talking about their most recent code s performance. And I don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp's opponents in gsl were 50x easier than mma's to get to ro8
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
MMA was in a group with TaeJa, Mana, and MVP, two of whom are currently in the RO4 and poised to take this GSL. MKP was in a group with Curious, JD, and MC. He lost to Curious, then beat JD and MC 2-1. Jaedong's play has been wholly uninspiring. And MC just got demolished by alive 2-0 in the Ro32 Code A. Not exactly contextually correct to say that "MKP's ro8 is better than MMA ro32" seeing as how MKP would've been demolished in MMA's group
The thing is the reason MMA was put in that group is because of his lackluster GSL performance throughout 2012. MMA was considered a Tier 3 player for this season while MKP was considered a Tier 2. It would have been 100% impossible for MKP, MVP, and Taeja to be in the same group so it doesn't matter that if MKP was in that group he would have got eliminated.
You realize all of that is completely irrelevant when the only point of discussion here is that MMA's group was 50x harder than MKP's group?
On October 10 2012 09:17 MasterKang wrote: [quote]
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
MMA was in a group with TaeJa, Mana, and MVP, two of whom are currently in the RO4 and poised to take this GSL. MKP was in a group with Curious, JD, and MC. He lost to Curious, then beat JD and MC 2-1. Jaedong's play has been wholly uninspiring. And MC just got demolished by alive 2-0 in the Ro32 Code A. Not exactly contextually correct to say that "MKP's ro8 is better than MMA ro32" seeing as how MKP would've been demolished in MMA's group
doesn't matter, ro8 > ro32 in my book
lol well clearly your book doesn't mind taking things out of context
also, i don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp is doing better lately than mma lately, too (for most of this year), so can't see how you miss that context too.
I wouldn't disagree with that either. But we're not talking about overall results 2012. We're talking about their most recent code s performance. And I don't think many would disagree with the fact that mkp's opponents in gsl were 50x easier than mma's to get to ro8
On October 10 2012 09:12 PhoenixVoid wrote: Welp, BL/Infestor/Corruptor saves SlayerS it appears.
slayers never needed saving lolz
not doing particularly well lately tbh
they were all-killed by younghwa, but who hasn't been all-killed by younghwa? They beat MVP 5-4 in the IPTL. They lost to EG in the IPTL. They beat EG in the EGMCSL. They are atm 4-0 in EGMCSL. They were in the finals of the most recent GSTL. Maybe compared to your standards, that's not doing particularly well but plenty would disagree with that
How about individual leagues bro.
How about NSHoseo? No one in the GSL. Prime? MKP made RO8 Gsl. MVP? DRG made RO8 OSL. The only teams that really look strong are ST and IM. However, it is true that Slayers isn't doing incerdibly well right now. I'll give you that.
NSH is the only gom team doing worse than slayers imo haha prime? creator won WCS, MKP ro8 is better than MMA ro32 MVP is a bit on the down too, with their star slumping
MMA was in a group with TaeJa, Mana, and MVP, two of whom are currently in the RO4 and poised to take this GSL. MKP was in a group with Curious, JD, and MC. He lost to Curious, then beat JD and MC 2-1. Jaedong's play has been wholly uninspiring. And MC just got demolished by alive 2-0 in the Ro32 Code A. Not exactly contextually correct to say that "MKP's ro8 is better than MMA ro32" seeing as how MKP would've been demolished in MMA's group
The thing is the reason MMA was put in that group is because of his lackluster GSL performance throughout 2012. MMA was considered a Tier 3 player for this season while MKP was considered a Tier 2. It would have been 100% impossible for MKP, MVP, and Taeja to be in the same group so it doesn't matter that if MKP was in that group he would have got eliminated.
You realize all of that is completely irrelevant when the only point of discussion here is that MMA's group was 50x harder than MKP's group?
It is relevant because you said MKP's run was less impressive because if he got put in MMA's place he wouldn't have advanced. It was impossible for him to put into MMA's place because he has actually done half-way decent in GSL this year though.
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