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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 07:28:09
October 01 2012 07:23 GMT
#41
MKP, oh why do you have to face Life already?

Anyway, sick OP. Great, great work!

Also: if you need any help with writing or something like that for hype, I'll be more than happy to help. You've done a lot for the community with all the stuff you've done with LR-threads, that's the least someone could do :p
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 01 2012 07:50 GMT
#42
On October 01 2012 15:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 15:39 lichter wrote:
On October 01 2012 15:35 opterown wrote:
On October 01 2012 15:33 lichter wrote:
If YuGiOh ever makes it to Ro8 I expect to be interviewed, okay

sounds like a plan!
in other news, trying to think of an original way to hype semifinals... prob will skip interviews for that (might have them again for finals)


Game by game analysis of the relevant matchup played so far in the GSL by each player? Done by intelligent and respected (and non-balance whining) forum members.

Finals could be both.

I guess you could start a writing staff for these LRs.

hmmm, could be an idea!

if anyone's up for this gimme a shout ;p


Gonna need to be subscribers so they can rewatch the vods. How soon do the semis happen after the Ro8? I could probably do this for a player if it's a week after Ro8
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 01 2012 08:06 GMT
#43
semis are next thurs, so a week after

hopefully we can get the thread up 2-3 days early like for the ro8
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 08:13:09
October 01 2012 08:12 GMT
#44
On October 01 2012 17:06 opterown wrote:
semis are next thurs, so a week after

hopefully we can get the thread up 2-3 days early like for the ro8


You should probably already find 4 people to do it though, so they can prepare as soon as possible. Fan interviews can be by anyone based on fandom-ness and ability to write a fun interview, but game analysis should be by people who understand the game and players well enough to say something meaningful. Should also be as objective and unbiased as possible, so a writer should not do the writeup for his favorite or least favorite player.

It would help to have some sort of format too.
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 01 2012 08:28 GMT
#45
Love the fan interviews. Ro8 is gonna be so good
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 01 2012 08:29 GMT
#46
On October 01 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 17:06 opterown wrote:
semis are next thurs, so a week after

hopefully we can get the thread up 2-3 days early like for the ro8


You should probably already find 4 people to do it though, so they can prepare as soon as possible. Fan interviews can be by anyone based on fandom-ness and ability to write a fun interview, but game analysis should be by people who understand the game and players well enough to say something meaningful. Should also be as objective and unbiased as possible, so a writer should not do the writeup for his favorite or least favorite player.

It would help to have some sort of format too.

yeah i'll brainstorm how it should go; hopefully it won't be TL;DR but should contain enough detail?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=367635

this was really well done (by ver and monk i believe) but few read it since it wasn't featured and it was rather lengthy. not sure if we want a blow-by-blow recount, or indepth analysis haha
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NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
October 01 2012 08:41 GMT
#47
Really cool new font, Can't wait!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 01 2012 08:43 GMT
#48
That is excellent, yes, but way too long for a preview. The way I see it, the preview should just give an overview of a player's play styles, map preferences, play styles on different maps, common strategies and tactics, and general analysis of his performance for the season. A blow-by-blow for every game he's played would be waaaaaay too long.

If it were up to me it would be formatted something like this:

I. How He Got Here

Group Stage 1
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Group Stage 2
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Ro8
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

II. How He's Performed

1. General Overview of Preferred Strategies
2. Map preferences
3. Trends and common occurences in games (common mistakes, flaws, or advantages won)
4. General Performance Review

III. How He's Likely to Perform
1. Overview of how he plays out a series
2. Likely plan for the series given the map pool
3. Likely/strong strategies per map and why
4. Head-to-Head analysis of probably strategies
5. Head-to-head comparison of strengths/weaknesses

IV. Predictions
1. Predictions for each map
2. Predictions for the series

Something like that, doesn't have to be long, it should just have as much relevant info as possible to get everyone hyped up for the match
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-01 08:47:58
October 01 2012 08:46 GMT
#49
On October 01 2012 17:43 lichter wrote:
That is excellent, yes, but way too long for a preview. The way I see it, the preview should just give an overview of a player's play styles, map preferences, play styles on different maps, common strategies and tactics, and general analysis of his performance for the season. A blow-by-blow for every game he's played would be waaaaaay too long.

If it were up to me it would be formatted something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
I. How He Got Here

Group Stage 1
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Group Stage 2
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Ro8
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

II. How He's Performed

1. General Overview of Preferred Strategies
2. Map preferences
3. Trends and common occurences in games (common mistakes, flaws, or advantages won)
4. General Performance Review

III. How He's Likely to Perform
1. Overview of how he plays out a series
2. Likely plan for the series given the map pool
3. Likely/strong strategies per map and why
4. Head-to-Head analysis of probably strategies
5. Head-to-head comparison of strengths/weaknesses

IV. Predictions
1. Predictions for each map
2. Predictions for the series


Something like that, doesn't have to be long, it should just have as much relevant info as possible to get everyone hyped up for the match

Hm, even this, though, I think might be a bit too long.
if we were to do that, I was thinking maybe a blow-by-blow of ONE game in the semi-finals only would be a decent idea? otherwise people would go 'lol tl;dr' (which i think a few people already have done for these interviews haha). and considering we'd have four - doing what you suggested might be better for the finals? as in, the I-IV that you laid out haha (which would easily be 5k+ words imo)

for semi - i'm thinking - maybe get four people to write a "why X will win GSL" similar to how the GSTL threads have been up. get that done for the semifinals (different people from the interviews, so we can get a bit of variety). people can throw in videos, pictures, photoshops, fan art, etc into those.

maybe do the player recaps like you suggested for the finals?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 01 2012 08:50 GMT
#50
On October 01 2012 17:46 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 17:43 lichter wrote:
That is excellent, yes, but way too long for a preview. The way I see it, the preview should just give an overview of a player's play styles, map preferences, play styles on different maps, common strategies and tactics, and general analysis of his performance for the season. A blow-by-blow for every game he's played would be waaaaaay too long.

If it were up to me it would be formatted something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
I. How He Got Here

Group Stage 1
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Group Stage 2
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Ro8
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

II. How He's Performed

1. General Overview of Preferred Strategies
2. Map preferences
3. Trends and common occurences in games (common mistakes, flaws, or advantages won)
4. General Performance Review

III. How He's Likely to Perform
1. Overview of how he plays out a series
2. Likely plan for the series given the map pool
3. Likely/strong strategies per map and why
4. Head-to-Head analysis of probably strategies
5. Head-to-head comparison of strengths/weaknesses

IV. Predictions
1. Predictions for each map
2. Predictions for the series


Something like that, doesn't have to be long, it should just have as much relevant info as possible to get everyone hyped up for the match

Hm, even this, though, I think might be a bit too long.
if we were to do that, I was thinking maybe a blow-by-blow of ONE game in the semi-finals only would be a decent idea? otherwise people would go 'lol tl;dr' (which i think a few people already have done for these interviews haha). and considering we'd have four - doing what you suggested might be better for the finals? as in, the I-IV that you laid out haha (which would easily be 5k+ words imo)

for semi - i'm thinking - maybe get four people to write a "why X will win GSL" similar to how the GSTL threads have been up. get that done for the semifinals (different people from the interviews, so we can get a bit of variety). people can throw in videos, pictures, photoshops, fan art, etc into those.

maybe do the player recaps like you suggested for the finals?


Yeah maybe that's also a bit too much, too long. People don't like reading. T_T the thing I posted might work better for a finals, you're right.

Why X will win GSL could be cool, as long as someone really funny and smart does it.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 01 2012 08:59 GMT
#51
On October 01 2012 17:50 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 17:46 opterown wrote:
On October 01 2012 17:43 lichter wrote:
That is excellent, yes, but way too long for a preview. The way I see it, the preview should just give an overview of a player's play styles, map preferences, play styles on different maps, common strategies and tactics, and general analysis of his performance for the season. A blow-by-blow for every game he's played would be waaaaaay too long.

If it were up to me it would be formatted something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
I. How He Got Here

Group Stage 1
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Group Stage 2
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Ro8
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

II. How He's Performed

1. General Overview of Preferred Strategies
2. Map preferences
3. Trends and common occurences in games (common mistakes, flaws, or advantages won)
4. General Performance Review

III. How He's Likely to Perform
1. Overview of how he plays out a series
2. Likely plan for the series given the map pool
3. Likely/strong strategies per map and why
4. Head-to-Head analysis of probably strategies
5. Head-to-head comparison of strengths/weaknesses

IV. Predictions
1. Predictions for each map
2. Predictions for the series


Something like that, doesn't have to be long, it should just have as much relevant info as possible to get everyone hyped up for the match

Hm, even this, though, I think might be a bit too long.
if we were to do that, I was thinking maybe a blow-by-blow of ONE game in the semi-finals only would be a decent idea? otherwise people would go 'lol tl;dr' (which i think a few people already have done for these interviews haha). and considering we'd have four - doing what you suggested might be better for the finals? as in, the I-IV that you laid out haha (which would easily be 5k+ words imo)

for semi - i'm thinking - maybe get four people to write a "why X will win GSL" similar to how the GSTL threads have been up. get that done for the semifinals (different people from the interviews, so we can get a bit of variety). people can throw in videos, pictures, photoshops, fan art, etc into those.

maybe do the player recaps like you suggested for the finals?


Yeah maybe that's also a bit too much, too long. People don't like reading. T_T the thing I posted might work better for a finals, you're right.

Why X will win GSL could be cool, as long as someone really funny and smart does it.

yeah i shall keep thinking over cool hype ideas :3
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 01 2012 09:14 GMT
#52
Sexy OP opterown, good to see that you've got internet back now ^^
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 01 2012 09:20 GMT
#53
On October 01 2012 18:14 MCDayC wrote:
Sexy OP opterown, good to see that you've got internet back now ^^

yup, this is what i did over the weekend to save myself being bored to death ahaha ;p
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
October 01 2012 09:26 GMT
#54
3-2 Taeja
3-2 Life
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 01 2012 11:16 GMT
#55
On October 01 2012 17:59 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2012 17:50 lichter wrote:
On October 01 2012 17:46 opterown wrote:
On October 01 2012 17:43 lichter wrote:
That is excellent, yes, but way too long for a preview. The way I see it, the preview should just give an overview of a player's play styles, map preferences, play styles on different maps, common strategies and tactics, and general analysis of his performance for the season. A blow-by-blow for every game he's played would be waaaaaay too long.

If it were up to me it would be formatted something like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
I. How He Got Here

Group Stage 1
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Group Stage 2
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

Ro8
1. Game #, vs Player
2. Map
3. Chosen build or strategies by each player
4. Summary of the game
5. Short Analysis

II. How He's Performed

1. General Overview of Preferred Strategies
2. Map preferences
3. Trends and common occurences in games (common mistakes, flaws, or advantages won)
4. General Performance Review

III. How He's Likely to Perform
1. Overview of how he plays out a series
2. Likely plan for the series given the map pool
3. Likely/strong strategies per map and why
4. Head-to-Head analysis of probably strategies
5. Head-to-head comparison of strengths/weaknesses

IV. Predictions
1. Predictions for each map
2. Predictions for the series


Something like that, doesn't have to be long, it should just have as much relevant info as possible to get everyone hyped up for the match

Hm, even this, though, I think might be a bit too long.
if we were to do that, I was thinking maybe a blow-by-blow of ONE game in the semi-finals only would be a decent idea? otherwise people would go 'lol tl;dr' (which i think a few people already have done for these interviews haha). and considering we'd have four - doing what you suggested might be better for the finals? as in, the I-IV that you laid out haha (which would easily be 5k+ words imo)

for semi - i'm thinking - maybe get four people to write a "why X will win GSL" similar to how the GSTL threads have been up. get that done for the semifinals (different people from the interviews, so we can get a bit of variety). people can throw in videos, pictures, photoshops, fan art, etc into those.

maybe do the player recaps like you suggested for the finals?


Yeah maybe that's also a bit too much, too long. People don't like reading. T_T the thing I posted might work better for a finals, you're right.

Why X will win GSL could be cool, as long as someone really funny and smart does it.

yeah i shall keep thinking over cool hype ideas :3


A'right bro just say if you need help, this is my one week not away on vacation or drunk for most of it
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 01 2012 11:21 GMT
#56
Gogo Leenock & Life Octopus & Sex Coma Zerg

predicting Overrated-Terran 3-1 & Laipu 3-0
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
October 01 2012 11:31 GMT
#57
Gogo Opter!

The fan interviews were fun to do! Big props to you for taking the initiative!

TaeJa fighting!!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
October 01 2012 12:15 GMT
#58
MARINEKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Roth
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany165 Posts
October 01 2012 12:31 GMT
#59
Life will make it
Day[9] - "That stupid ice cream truck representing happiness!"
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 01 2012 14:55 GMT
#60
i'm surprised taeja is so favoured head-wise with leenock

leenock is doing the best out of the zergs atm, and hasn't dropped a zvt series in months (same as taeja)

i guess this is TL ;P
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