On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote: [quote] You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job
It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17.
OK, just tell me, do you think progamers' job is harder than your father's job?
I certainly believe most fathers has harder jobs, do you? That's my whole argument.
I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.
You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job
It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
if all he has to worry about is his boss being a dick the kespa/gsl player's jobs are a million times harder than his
they work all day every day and make absolute shit money unless they are better than all the other people who work all day every day. obviously its fucking harder than sitting in an office all day trying to convince people that you're being productive.
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote: [quote] It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17.
OK, just tell me, do you think progamers' job is harder than your father's job?
I certainly believe most fathers has harder jobs, do you? That's my whole argument.
? You can try your whole life to become a pro gamer and you wouldn't be able to do it. There's no demand for it unless you're the best out of hundreds of thousands of people.
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote: [quote] You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job
It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
if all he has to worry about is his boss being a dick the kespa/gsl player's jobs are a million times harder than his
they work all day every day and make absolute shit money unless they are better than all the other people who work all day every day. obviously its fucking harder than sitting in an office all day trying to convince people that you're being productive.
Yea, that's why the billions of people in the second and third world who go through the entire educational and employment cycle working their asses off for far longer before they even get to make money have it so much easier than you right?
Seriously dude? We all know professional <insert sport> is difficult and you make jack shit unless you are on the top, but its still such a first world job.
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote: [quote] It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
if all he has to worry about is his boss being a dick the kespa/gsl player's jobs are a million times harder than his
they work all day every day and make absolute shit money unless they are better than all the other people who work all day every day. obviously its fucking harder than sitting in an office all day trying to convince people that you're being productive.
Yea, that's why the billions of people in the second and third world who go through the entire educational and employment cycle working their asses off for far longer before they even get to make money have it so much easier than you right?
Seriously dude? We all know professional <insert sport> is difficult and you make jack shit unless you are on the top, but its still such a first world job.
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote: [quote]
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
if all he has to worry about is his boss being a dick the kespa/gsl player's jobs are a million times harder than his
they work all day every day and make absolute shit money unless they are better than all the other people who work all day every day. obviously its fucking harder than sitting in an office all day trying to convince people that you're being productive.
Yea, that's why the billions of people in the second and third world who go through the entire educational and employment cycle working their asses off for far longer before they even get to make money have it so much easier than you right?
Seriously dude? We all know professional <insert sport> is difficult and you make jack shit unless you are on the top, but its still such a first world job.
...Unless it's not in the first world.
I thought the whole point was that we are comparing it to our father's generation and that there wasn't any modifier on what place your father came from.
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote: [quote] It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
if all he has to worry about is his boss being a dick the kespa/gsl player's jobs are a million times harder than his
they work all day every day and make absolute shit money unless they are better than all the other people who work all day every day. obviously its fucking harder than sitting in an office all day trying to convince people that you're being productive.
Yea, that's why the billions of people in the second and third world who go through the entire educational and employment cycle working their asses off for far longer before they even get to make money have it so much easier than you right?
Seriously dude? We all know professional <insert sport> is difficult and you make jack shit unless you are on the top, but its still such a first world job.
good thing thats not we're talking about or id be so embarrassed right now
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote: [quote]
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
if all he has to worry about is his boss being a dick the kespa/gsl player's jobs are a million times harder than his
they work all day every day and make absolute shit money unless they are better than all the other people who work all day every day. obviously its fucking harder than sitting in an office all day trying to convince people that you're being productive.
Yea, that's why the billions of people in the second and third world who go through the entire educational and employment cycle working their asses off for far longer before they even get to make money have it so much easier than you right?
Seriously dude? We all know professional <insert sport> is difficult and you make jack shit unless you are on the top, but its still such a first world job.
good thing thats not we're talking about or id be so embarrassed right now
Glad that taeja made it through. I was worried about this match cause leenock has been playing really well as of late. Taeja vs MVP finals please. I'd love to see an epic TvT between those two.
On October 05 2012 05:41 jmbthirteen wrote: Glad that taeja made it through. I was worried about this match cause leenock has been playing really well as of late. Taeja vs MVP finals please. I'd love to see an epic TvT between those two.
I know I shouldn't bet against Mvp, but out of the possible finals, I think Taeja - Mvp is the least likely. Also the final with the highest potential to be a beatdown, seeing what Taeja did to Mvp in the group stages.
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote: [quote]
Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.
Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17.
OK, just tell me, do you think progamers' job is harder than your father's job?
I certainly believe most fathers has harder jobs, do you? That's my whole argument.
? You can try your whole life to become a pro gamer and you wouldn't be able to do it. There's no demand for it unless you're the best out of hundreds of thousands of people.
I agree progaming is difficult to make a living out off, but I wouldn't say the path towards it is difficult though Talent really is the amount of time you invest into something with your child years counting double. So basically if you are exceptionally good at playing video games it means you spent most of your childhood playing video games which to me is pretty privileged considering my time waster growing up was reading my father's history books.
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote: [quote] Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17.
OK, just tell me, do you think progamers' job is harder than your father's job?
I certainly believe most fathers has harder jobs, do you? That's my whole argument.
? You can try your whole life to become a pro gamer and you wouldn't be able to do it. There's no demand for it unless you're the best out of hundreds of thousands of people.
I agree progaming is difficult to make a living out off, but I wouldn't say the path towards it is difficult though Talent really is the amount of time you invest into something with your child years counting double. So basically if you are exceptionally good at playing video games it means you spent most of your childhood playing video games which to me is pretty privileged considering my time waster growing up was reading my father's history books.
Lol no.
Time invested = practice no matter when it happens. Talent is talent. There's a reason people pick up different things at different rates.
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote: [quote]
I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.
Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch
Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.
What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17.
OK, just tell me, do you think progamers' job is harder than your father's job?
I certainly believe most fathers has harder jobs, do you? That's my whole argument.
? You can try your whole life to become a pro gamer and you wouldn't be able to do it. There's no demand for it unless you're the best out of hundreds of thousands of people.
I agree progaming is difficult to make a living out off, but I wouldn't say the path towards it is difficult though Talent really is the amount of time you invest into something with your child years counting double. So basically if you are exceptionally good at playing video games it means you spent most of your childhood playing video games which to me is pretty privileged considering my time waster growing up was reading my father's history books.
Lol no.
Time invested = practice no matter when it happens. Talent is talent. There's a reason people pick up different things at different rates.
Disagree. I grew up tri-lingual: Dutch, Portuguese and English. This allows me to pick up Latin and Germanic languages at a faster rate than people that grew up speaking only one language. Thus I have a "talent" for languages.
A more popular example. Mozart started composing at an exceptional young age, but do you ever hear any of these pieces?
EPT
Talent really is the amount of time you invest into something with your child years counting double. So basically if you are exceptionally good at playing video games it means you spent most of your childhood playing video games which to me is pretty privileged considering my time waster growing up was reading my father's history books.
