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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 04 2012 15:52 GMT
#2241
Haha, Life did a zergling/baneling all-in? I haven't seen that since his series against Keen in the TSL4 qualifiers, and that was essentially a joke series. Really cool!
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 15:57:44
October 04 2012 15:57 GMT
#2242
On October 04 2012 18:25 bittman wrote:
No Shellshock LR tonight? Or did I miss it?

I had a test and a project due this morning so I skipped GSL
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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
October 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#2243
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 16:11:18
October 04 2012 16:10 GMT
#2244
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 04 2012 16:14 GMT
#2245
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


Not necessarily true, but it's very hard to balance the two (girlfriend and competitive Brood War). You are taking on two very serious commitments as an emotional teenager and any problem in one is amplified in another.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 04 2012 16:15 GMT
#2246
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 16:25:15
October 04 2012 16:21 GMT
#2247
On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.


Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.

neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
October 04 2012 16:24 GMT
#2248
leeeeeeeeenock!!!!
MARINEKING~!!!!!!!!!!!!

moo...for DRG
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 04 2012 16:30 GMT
#2249
On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.


Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.


For most jobs, all you have to do is be half-way to almost competent, and you'll get paid. For most jobs, you can keep your job separate from your life; once it's 5:00, just go home and banish all thoughts about computer programming, accounting, etc. from your mind. I'm not just talking about "losing a GSL game," I am talking about the entire progaming lifestyle, which, let's face it, is not all shits and giggles. Some people have easier lives, some have harder lives, and it's really not for you to decide which is more difficult. Some people are good with dealing with their boss's shit (e.g. my dad, who, yes, does have to get kicked around by his boss all day, but it has little to no impact on him), some people are horrible at it.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 04 2012 16:37 GMT
#2250
On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.


Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.


thats only stressful if you're a bitch
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 16:39:07
October 04 2012 16:38 GMT
#2251
On October 05 2012 01:37 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.


Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.


thats only stressful if you're a bitch

hahahahaah

I was gonna say something like that but didn't wanna get banned
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
October 04 2012 16:40 GMT
#2252
On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.


Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.


lol at the end of the day none of it matters once you receive that paycheck. Unless your working at mcdonalds of course
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 16:55:09
October 04 2012 16:52 GMT
#2253
On October 05 2012 01:37 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.


Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.


thats only stressful if you're a bitch


Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned.
Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.

What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 04 2012 16:54 GMT
#2254
Yay Taeja!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yay Life!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

MKP looked like he deserved to lose, was constantly being aggressive at bad times and playing super greedy against an aggressive zerg. Taeja vs Leenock scared the shit out of me, Leenock with BL/infestor/queen is terrifying.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
October 04 2012 17:28 GMT
#2255
ah.. poor marineking.. seems to be on the fritz.. great job taeja!!
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 04 2012 17:48 GMT
#2256
Rain vs. Mvp and Life vs. Taeja?

The "worst" possible outcome is a PvZ between Life and Rain to decide a royal road champion. They also both play so different than most players of their race, it could be the best PvZ we've ever seen. The top four this tournament are the four best players in the world at this moment, so I'm excited. Crowd should be packed in next week.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 04 2012 18:02 GMT
#2257
Liquid back in the semis! Go Taeja!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 04 2012 18:17 GMT
#2258
On October 04 2012 21:08 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 21:06 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 04 2012 21:05 Mambo wrote:
Life is gonna get destroyed by Taeja.


We will see.:D If Taeja plays like he did today then he will get destroyed.


You can't call a game when he played vs a zerg with a different play style then Life, Taeja didn't play bad but he didn't really need to play good, Taeja should have 3:0ed Leenock and that 4th game never should have existed.


If he didn't play bad then why did he look so unconvincing against an opponent he should have 3-0'd? I was favoring Taeja going against life before Ro8 matches (though I still thought life could win) but Taeja did not look like a GSL champion in that last series. I feel like he might need to pick better engagements against life. imo.

Also I don't think Taeja was holding anything back, what happens when he needs to play good?
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
October 04 2012 18:20 GMT
#2259
On October 05 2012 01:52 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 01:37 IdrA wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:10 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 01:01 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:
On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:
On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:

I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer.

You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job

It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck.


Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers.

Right dude! Since you've been on a pro gamer on a Kespa team and all. In comparison to a athlete its not a hard job but putting up good results is. From what I have read, Kespa pros don't even have time for girlfriends much less friends outside the gaming culture because their always practicing. My friends in Korea told me that being a pro gamer on bw was harder than becoming a lawyer and I am sure that the opinion remains the same for SC2, especially since all walks of life play it (ex warcraft, bw, fps, etc pros).


I'm comparing being a progamer to kissing ass while you are 40 years old to keep job in order to feed 2 kids, definitely later one is harder.

Becoming progamers is definitely harder though, there are just too few of them.

Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol.


Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.


thats only stressful if you're a bitch


Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned.
Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen.

What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right?

Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17.
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Startale fighting, sweet revenge always nice to kill Prime and in such a fashion
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