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On October 04 2012 21:18 ElephantBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:17 vthree wrote:On October 04 2012 21:13 Telcontar wrote:On October 04 2012 21:12 Goshdarnit wrote:On October 04 2012 21:01 TheRidd wrote:On October 04 2012 21:00 Lorch wrote:On October 04 2012 21:00 TheRidd wrote:On October 04 2012 20:58 Lorch wrote:
50% royal roader in this one, the other 50% terran, looks pretty good. Life is not a royal roader, he played in the first season of code A this year(i think) and got knocked out by jyp It's his first season of code s, thats the important part. Yeah, but not first time in GSL as rain is Well rain got a free pass through code B and A soooo How does that change the fact that this is his first time in GSL/Code S? It doesn't really matter because Code S is the 'main' tournament so only that should count. Since this is how it was for OSL/MSL where royal roaders came from. But if Code A were to be counted(which shouldn't and isn't), then getting a seed directly to Code S would but an asterisk to be a royal roader. It is not that for OSL/MSL, qualifiers count as royal roader path in OSL/MSL. The only requirement is first time participation, no matter which stage of the tournament.
Offline qualifiers certainly don't count for Royal Road purposes...
but also, if someone's coming in through Code A prelims, doesn't it take 2 seasons to win Code S?? :S
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On October 04 2012 21:19 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:13 Telcontar wrote:On October 04 2012 21:12 Goshdarnit wrote:On October 04 2012 21:01 TheRidd wrote:On October 04 2012 21:00 Lorch wrote:On October 04 2012 21:00 TheRidd wrote:On October 04 2012 20:58 Lorch wrote:
50% royal roader in this one, the other 50% terran, looks pretty good. Life is not a royal roader, he played in the first season of code A this year(i think) and got knocked out by jyp It's his first season of code s, thats the important part. Yeah, but not first time in GSL as rain is Well rain got a free pass through code B and A soooo How does that change the fact that this is his first time in GSL/Code S? its impossible to complete code A and code S in the same season
sure it is, get knocked out in groups
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Thanks for that! There's so many great magic articles out there, it's hard to keep track. Can't believe I hadn't read this one yet though!
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On October 04 2012 21:20 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:18 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 04 2012 21:17 vthree wrote:On October 04 2012 21:13 Telcontar wrote:On October 04 2012 21:12 Goshdarnit wrote:On October 04 2012 21:01 TheRidd wrote:On October 04 2012 21:00 Lorch wrote:On October 04 2012 21:00 TheRidd wrote:On October 04 2012 20:58 Lorch wrote:
50% royal roader in this one, the other 50% terran, looks pretty good. Life is not a royal roader, he played in the first season of code A this year(i think) and got knocked out by jyp It's his first season of code s, thats the important part. Yeah, but not first time in GSL as rain is Well rain got a free pass through code B and A soooo How does that change the fact that this is his first time in GSL/Code S? It doesn't really matter because Code S is the 'main' tournament so only that should count. Since this is how it was for OSL/MSL where royal roaders came from. But if Code A were to be counted(which shouldn't and isn't), then getting a seed directly to Code S would but an asterisk to be a royal roader. It is not that for OSL/MSL, qualifiers count as royal roader path in OSL/MSL. The only requirement is first time participation, no matter which stage of the tournament. Really? So has anyone attempted to qualify-for-the-first-time-ever, succeeded and then won the OSL/MSL in one go? How many games is that btw?
According to ElephantBaby, JD is not a royal roader. He won EVER 2007 but he was actually in Daum 2007 Ro48 and lost to much (didn't check the OSLs before that).
OSL Royal Roader only counted players who qualified for OSL Group Stage (Ro 16) which is the OSL proper. Everything before that are qualifying tournaments (ODT, etc).
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On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun.
Potential* yeah? 
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On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun.
Ummm, no. Being a Code A regular precludes Royal Roading unless you want to devalue the term entirely. The first time you're above Code B is your Royal Road run (even if it takes two seasons due to the format).
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On October 04 2012 21:27 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun. Ummm, no. Being a Code A regular precludes Royal Roading unless you want to devalue the term entirely. The first time you're above Code B is your Royal Road run (even if it takes two seasons due to the format).
So how is JD a royal roader?
Code S is actually stricter than OSL since Code S is Top 32 and OSL proper is Top 16.
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Rain: 12-3
Mvp: 11-5
Taeja: 11-5
Life: 11-2
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On October 04 2012 21:27 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun. Ummm, no. Being a Code A regular precludes Royal Roading unless you want to devalue the term entirely. The first time you're above Code B is your Royal Road run (even if it takes two seasons due to the format).
code S = OSL ro16, code A = something like OSL ro24........... royal roader only counts if the player is first time participating in the ro16 of OSL, regardless of the past. same should be for GSL
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I apologize for startin this royal roader stuff lol ..)
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On October 04 2012 21:31 TheRidd wrote:I apologize for startin this royal roader stuff lol .. )
Never say anything which may cause a debate in the LR thread again!
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On October 04 2012 21:33 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:31 TheRidd wrote:I apologize for startin this royal roader stuff lol .. ) Never say anything which may cause a debate in the LR thread again!
I wont, haha
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On October 04 2012 21:29 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:27 Scarecrow wrote:On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun. Ummm, no. Being a Code A regular precludes Royal Roading unless you want to devalue the term entirely. The first time you're above Code B is your Royal Road run (even if it takes two seasons due to the format). code S = OSL ro16, code A = something like OSL ro24........... royal roader only counts if the player is first time participating in the ro16 of OSL, regardless of the past. same should be for GSL
Exactly. And since the Code S is actually 32 players, the term is even stronger there. So I don't know why everyone is crying about devaluation.
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On October 04 2012 21:34 TheBB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:29 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 04 2012 21:27 Scarecrow wrote:On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun. Ummm, no. Being a Code A regular precludes Royal Roading unless you want to devalue the term entirely. The first time you're above Code B is your Royal Road run (even if it takes two seasons due to the format). code S = OSL ro16, code A = something like OSL ro24........... royal roader only counts if the player is first time participating in the ro16 of OSL, regardless of the past. same should be for GSL Exactly. And since the Code S is actually 32 players, the term is even stronger there. So I don't know why everyone is crying about devaluation.
People are probably salty about Life rolling over MKP(fan favorite).
Life and Sun are considered royal roaders by definition.
The TL staffs who wrote the recaps has classified Life and Sun as royal roaders from the beginning of Code S Season.
Same with Yoda and Symbol. But they are not royal roaders anymore.
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On October 04 2012 21:37 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:34 TheBB wrote:On October 04 2012 21:29 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 04 2012 21:27 Scarecrow wrote:On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun. Ummm, no. Being a Code A regular precludes Royal Roading unless you want to devalue the term entirely. The first time you're above Code B is your Royal Road run (even if it takes two seasons due to the format). code S = OSL ro16, code A = something like OSL ro24........... royal roader only counts if the player is first time participating in the ro16 of OSL, regardless of the past. same should be for GSL Exactly. And since the Code S is actually 32 players, the term is even stronger there. So I don't know why everyone is crying about devaluation. People are probably salty about Life rolling over MKP(fan favorite). Life and Sun are considered royal roaders by definition. The TL staffs who wrote the recaps has classified Life and Sun as royal roaders from the beginning of Code S Season.
Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365589
Yoda, Life, Heart, Rain, Jaedong, Mana should be all the potential RRoaders for this season. 2/6 pretty freaking good for Ro4.
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Since GSL's format is different, the definition of Royal Roader should be adjusted for the format.
Whatever that definition is, no one will ever agree, ever. Standard internet.
But to me getting knocked out of Code A means you are already royal roadblocked, but staying in Code A and winning in your first Code S still counts.
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On October 04 2012 21:39 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 21:37 FakeDeath wrote:On October 04 2012 21:34 TheBB wrote:On October 04 2012 21:29 X3GoldDot wrote:On October 04 2012 21:27 Scarecrow wrote:On October 04 2012 21:24 FakeDeath wrote:On October 04 2012 21:21 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Two ways to classify a royal roader for Starcraft 2
1: The player qualifies for Code A(for the first time) and then proceeds to win through rounds 1-3 or win round 1 and go through the up & down matches and get into code s and win.
2: A player who has been in code a for a few seasons(doesn't make it through up & downs or gets eliminated in round 1 and qualifies each new season) & then qualifies for code s(for his first time) and wins.
Both are fine to crown a royal roader . Yup basically this. Life is still a royal roader along with Sun. Ummm, no. Being a Code A regular precludes Royal Roading unless you want to devalue the term entirely. The first time you're above Code B is your Royal Road run (even if it takes two seasons due to the format). code S = OSL ro16, code A = something like OSL ro24........... royal roader only counts if the player is first time participating in the ro16 of OSL, regardless of the past. same should be for GSL Exactly. And since the Code S is actually 32 players, the term is even stronger there. So I don't know why everyone is crying about devaluation. People are probably salty about Life rolling over MKP(fan favorite). Life and Sun are considered royal roaders by definition. The TL staffs who wrote the recaps has classified Life and Sun as royal roaders from the beginning of Code S Season. Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=365589Yoda, Life, Heart, Rain, Jaedong, Mana should be all the potential RRoaders for this season. 2/6 pretty freaking good for Ro4.
Mana,Jaedong(sadly),Yoda and Heart are not Royal Roaders anymore.
Only Life and Sun are the remaining royal roaders.
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Yesss! Couldn't be more happy with who made it through!
At this point I could say I'd be content with any of the remaining players winning it all. Even though I do have a little bias towards Life(Because of Startale ^^)
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On October 04 2012 21:29 TheBB wrote:
Rain: 12-3
Mvp: 11-5
Taeja: 11-5
Life: 11-2
Guess we will have a pvz final most likely. And I don't think rain can beat life who destroyed last gsl champion seed effortlessly.
It could also be st's first time to break the curse.
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Man anyone can win this year
Ok... everyone except Taeja :p
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EPT
