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On October 05 2012 07:29 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:28 the_business_og wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 Figgy wrote:On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:
I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer. You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck. Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers. This has to be a joke. You are within the top 200 best on the planet to be GSL worthy. Out of MILLIONS. That's like saying getting into GM on the korean server atm is a joke it's only hard mentally because of your age. i disagree...at the end of the day its a video game Are you really this stupid or just trolling?
It really isn't that hard to sit and play games all day. I can easily do that.
As someone who has done sports (cross country/track and field), I can say that is much more difficult then staying at home and playing a game all day. For the record, I have played 53 games in one day (not even cheese games), while working the following morning. If I played 10 hours a day I could easily bear it, even through the course of 6-7 days a week (fyi, a lot of the non-Kespa pros don't actually practice more than 12 hours a day 7x a week typically, in most cases). I can't do it now, obviously, because I have school/work. But if I had no other responsibilities it wouldn't be to hard to fulfill.
Now if you were to refer to something like winning tournaments, that would be a different story.
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^ yeah, but they aren't paid to play the game, they are paid to win in that game, they don't sit and say well I'm going to play just for fun, they practise
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On October 05 2012 06:07 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 05:52 S_SienZ wrote:On October 05 2012 05:48 Ysellian wrote:On October 05 2012 03:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:On October 05 2012 03:23 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 03:20 mrtomjones wrote:On October 05 2012 01:52 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 01:37 IdrA wrote:On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 01:15 babylon wrote:
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Sounds like my dad ... except he is mid-50s, paying for us to go to college (which is a bigger strain), and he says that his job is just incredibly boring, not difficult at all. So don't make wide generalizations like that, lol. Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope. thats only stressful if you're a bitch Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen. What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right? Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17. OK, just tell me, do you think progamers' job is harder than your father's job? I certainly believe most fathers has harder jobs, do you? That's my whole argument. ? You can try your whole life to become a pro gamer and you wouldn't be able to do it. There's no demand for it unless you're the best out of hundreds of thousands of people. I agree progaming is difficult to make a living out off, but I wouldn't say the path towards it is difficult though  Talent really is the amount of time you invest into something with your child years counting double. So basically if you are exceptionally good at playing video games it means you spent most of your childhood playing video games which to me is pretty privileged considering my time waster growing up was reading my father's history books. Lol no. Time invested = practice no matter when it happens. Talent is talent. There's a reason people pick up different things at different rates. Disagree. I grew up tri-lingual: Dutch, Portuguese and English. This allows me to pick up Latin and Germanic languages at a faster rate than people that grew up speaking only one language. Thus I have a "talent" for languages. A more popular example. Mozart started composing at an exceptional young age, but do you ever hear any of these pieces?
Are you actually saying these words...?
You don't have a 'talent' for languages, you are just able to utilize the fact that some languages are similar to others. Unless you think you could also learn Korean faster than your peers.
Talent is an innate ability, something you are born with. It's true that we pick up things faster as children, but please don't confuse that with talent.
And the reason we don't hear Mozart's early pieces is because they are most likely not very good. But that's because talent alone won't get you anywhere it takes a lot of hard work and practice as well.
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On October 06 2012 01:10 Stari wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 06:07 Ysellian wrote:On October 05 2012 05:52 S_SienZ wrote:On October 05 2012 05:48 Ysellian wrote:On October 05 2012 03:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:On October 05 2012 03:23 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 03:20 mrtomjones wrote:On October 05 2012 01:52 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 01:37 IdrA wrote:On October 05 2012 01:21 ElephantBaby wrote:
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Hard doesn't only mean jobs are difficult to do, kicked around by boss all day is pretty easy to do, but more stressful than losing a GSL game. Let alone you win a GSL game once a while, for most jobs, you never win, no hope.
thats only stressful if you're a bitch Be civil and logic, Idra, I know you can do that once, even though most people don't believe that. You don't want get banned. Oh, silly me, you are super citizen here, that will never happen. What's so wrong about my argument, so do you really think your job is much harder than your father's, right? Your logic is wrong in almost every thread I ever see you in. Nice attempt at a shot at Idra though. A problem at age 40 can feel just as big as a problem at age 17. OK, just tell me, do you think progamers' job is harder than your father's job? I certainly believe most fathers has harder jobs, do you? That's my whole argument. ? You can try your whole life to become a pro gamer and you wouldn't be able to do it. There's no demand for it unless you're the best out of hundreds of thousands of people. I agree progaming is difficult to make a living out off, but I wouldn't say the path towards it is difficult though Talent really is the amount of time you invest into something with your child years counting double. So basically if you are exceptionally good at playing video games it means you spent most of your childhood playing video games which to me is pretty privileged considering my time waster growing up was reading my father's history books. Lol no. Time invested = practice no matter when it happens. Talent is talent. There's a reason people pick up different things at different rates. Disagree. I grew up tri-lingual: Dutch, Portuguese and English. This allows me to pick up Latin and Germanic languages at a faster rate than people that grew up speaking only one language. Thus I have a "talent" for languages. A more popular example. Mozart started composing at an exceptional young age, but do you ever hear any of these pieces? Are you actually saying these words...? You don't have a 'talent' for languages, you are just able to utilize the fact that some languages are similar to others. Unless you think you could also learn Korean faster than your peers. Talent is an innate ability, something you are born with. It's true that we pick up things faster as children, but please don't confuse that with talent. And the reason we don't hear Mozart's early pieces is because they are most likely not very good. But that's because talent alone won't get you anywhere it takes a lot of hard work and practice as well.
They were good enough for Mozart to play in front of whole audiences.
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On October 05 2012 06:54 Figgy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:
I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer. You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck. Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers. This has to be a joke. You are within the top 200 best on the planet to be GSL worthy. Out of MILLIONS. That's like saying getting into GM on the korean server atm is a joke it's only hard mentally because of your age.
I didn't say it is easy to get.
Farmer jobs are easy to get, but they are certainly belong to hard jobs category.
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On October 06 2012 00:11 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2012 07:29 Thinasy wrote:On October 05 2012 07:28 the_business_og wrote:On October 05 2012 06:54 Figgy wrote:On October 05 2012 00:40 ElephantBaby wrote:On October 05 2012 00:37 Condor Hero wrote:On October 05 2012 00:16 plasemeious wrote:On October 04 2012 20:49 caruso wrote:
I'm so tired of seeing marineking lost in despair everytime he loses. He is way yoo sensitive, maybe he is not adapt to the life of a progamer. You say this like being a progamer is some hardcore job It is a hardcore job. Maybe not being some foreigner pro who's main job is streaming but if you're talking Kespa definition of pro, then yes it's hard as fuck. Even so, it is not too hard of a job, it is just very hard mentally because most of them are teenagers. This has to be a joke. You are within the top 200 best on the planet to be GSL worthy. Out of MILLIONS. That's like saying getting into GM on the korean server atm is a joke it's only hard mentally because of your age. i disagree...at the end of the day its a video game Are you really this stupid or just trolling? It really isn't that hard to sit and play games all day. I can easily do that. As someone who has done sports (cross country/track and field), I can say that is much more difficult then staying at home and playing a game all day. For the record, I have played 53 games in one day (not even cheese games), while working the following morning. If I played 10 hours a day I could easily bear it, even through the course of 6-7 days a week (fyi, a lot of the non-Kespa pros don't actually practice more than 12 hours a day 7x a week typically, in most cases). I can't do it now, obviously, because I have school/work. But if I had no other responsibilities it wouldn't be to hard to fulfill. Now if you were to refer to something like winning tournaments, that would be a different story.
You know what being a progamer means right? Being a pro at anything by definition means that you're paid to do it and you make a living out of it. It doesn't mean you can play 53 games in one day (WOW not even cheese games? Shut up no way!!) while working the following morning. Whoop deee do, nobody really gives a fuck. That's called a hobby... or possibly even called a gaming addiction if it's affecting your life negatively.
What makes progaming hard is that you have to excel to the point that there's a demand to watch you play. This demand has to translate into a professional team being willing to pay you to play. Now as hard as this is to do as a foreigner, it is much more difficult to attain this level of demand in Korea since the peers you're competing against are so much better.
The life of a progamer is not difficult in the same sense as it is difficult for a farmer. You won't be getting blisters or waking up at 4 am to harvest crops all day. It's much more akin to the difficulties faced by a business owner or a CEO. You are constantly making split-second important decisions that directly affect your livelihood. And unlike a CEO, most progamers are not making much money and are barely making ends meet.
To say the life of a progamer is easy because you can play 53 games a day on diamond league is just naive and stupid. It's just a video game, right? I guess the life of a professional artist is easy too. All they do is hold a brush and paint shit. I paint 5 watercolors a night before work in the morning. Why are they always complaining how difficult life is??
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