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nanoscorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1237 Posts
September 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#2001
For everyone complaining about ITs in that last engagement, keep in mind that Seed had 0 AE. No HT, no colossus, no archons, no mothership. Not sure if he even had forcefields to alter the fight geometry. Basically Voids and a few gateway units on the ground. Of course ITs are gonna destroy.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
September 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#2002
On September 20 2012 23:19 Roachu wrote:
The amount of tears from salty protoss players...



Serious Terran fanboy here. Bashing Zerg, the best designed race of all time
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
September 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#2003
On September 20 2012 23:19 Roachu wrote:
The amount of tears from salty protoss players...


Im protoss and i want symbol to advance. Seed >> Hero in pvp, Hero >> symbol in pvz. Gotta remember the bigger picture bro
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#2004
On September 20 2012 23:19 Teoita wrote:
Fun fact: as broken as that looked, PvZ has consistently been around 50% ish, which means there's some other phase in a game that's just as broken but for P. Yay for good game design.


2 base all ins. Mind the difference. Zerg wins the standard game, protoss wins (maybe) with all ins.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33416 Posts
September 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#2005
five hour group, jesus christ
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#2006
On September 20 2012 23:20 -_- wrote:
Funny fact: Shortly after release, Zergs thought Infested Terran were worthless!

For some reason, Zergs often seem to think their units are worthless.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
September 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#2007
On September 20 2012 23:19 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 23:17 InoyouS2 wrote:
On September 20 2012 23:16 liberate71 wrote:
On September 20 2012 23:15 InoyouS2 wrote:
Infestors are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong, I mean come on, look at that shit.

Like 500 infested Terrans + chain fungals with over half his energy left over.


Seed didnt have to A-move into it... he just got lazy.


Wat?

Tell me how you beat that, what amount of micro is required?

Infestors remove micro completely, Seed's army control was superb, yet he just gets blasted out of the sky by beachballs.

Not a single fungal dropped...

QQer says infestors remove micro...

No sense was made.


Lol, were you even watching?

The amount of fungals in that game were more than the entire season so far.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
September 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#2008
On September 20 2012 23:17 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 23:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On September 20 2012 23:14 shabby wrote:
On September 20 2012 23:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I hate zerg so hard sometimes


Because protoss threw away his first mothership so he could never have a real engagement? Meh.


No, because zerg only loses if they screw up.

Seed screwed up there. He fought in a position where he couldn't hit the Broodlords/Corruptors with his ground army, even with a Vortex. He should have waited for Symbol to push down the ramp or retreat to where he had space for his ground army.

I mean I was bummed out that Seed lost despite all the work he did in surgically removing all of Symbol's tech, but point is at the very late game, the last engagement matters and Seed would have won if he chose the better position.

Yea, this. He should have tried to base trade + remake tech somewhere else and wait for a favorable fight in open ground, not blocked by his own buildings and a ramp. Protoss has the advantage in this ultra super late late game.
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Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
September 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#2009
On September 20 2012 23:17 bittman wrote:
Really tasteless?

"Symbol with the best lategame ZvP I've ever seen." He didn't even attack until 30 minutes. Better players can kill their opponents.

this is ignorant

you aren't better because you win faster, that's not how it works.
Stroke Me Lady Fame
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
September 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#2010
On September 20 2012 23:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 23:19 Teoita wrote:
Fun fact: as broken as that looked, PvZ has consistently been around 50% ish, which means there's some other phase in a game that's just as broken but for P. Yay for good game design.


2 base all ins. Mind the difference. Zerg wins the standard game, protoss wins (maybe) with all ins.


Exactly, that plus pre hive timings. And that's fucking bad.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 14:22:36
September 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#2011
On September 20 2012 23:20 See.Blue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 23:19 Roachu wrote:
The amount of tears from salty protoss players...

Im protoss and i want symbol to advance. Seed >> Hero in pvp, Hero >> symbol in pvz. Gotta remember the bigger picture bro

Won't matter much if he dies to a Terran in Ro8.

Edit: Wait, I'm retarded. But he could still meet Taeja.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#2012
On September 20 2012 23:20 -_- wrote:
Funny fact: Shortly after release, Zergs thought Infested Terran were worthless!


I remember husky making a video with him making a bunch of burrowed infestors, waddling into someones base and just spew out masses of infested terrans whilst going "lol guys this is so fucking broken xd"

At the time i was like "yeah like that's ever going to be used in a pro game"...then again i had the same attitude towards motherships and carriers and speed prisms with immortals inside x_x I'm not good at this kinda stuff.
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
September 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#2013
On September 20 2012 23:14 Ciel wrote:
Energy is the best late game resource


Yeah, those Nexi save so many lifes lategame.
It's Infestors who benefit the most. You can always avoid some Storm damage and storming Broods is hard anyway since they got a slightly higher range and those AI killing Broodlings, you can fall back after getting hit by EMP. When you get hit by Fungal though its over if they have enough Infestors. You can't retreat, you can't target things that have higher range, in the end you can't do anything besides seeing your shit die.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
September 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#2014
On September 20 2012 23:16 ElephantBaby wrote:
South Korea is already over midnight, right?


11:22 pm actually.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
September 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#2015
On September 20 2012 23:20 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 23:20 -_- wrote:
Funny fact: Shortly after release, Zergs thought Infested Terran were worthless!

For some reason, Zergs often seem to think their units are worthless.

Fun fact: Everyone always plays the weakest race, with the worst units and most micro!
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
September 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#2016
On September 20 2012 23:21 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 23:20 See.Blue wrote:
On September 20 2012 23:19 Roachu wrote:
The amount of tears from salty protoss players...

Im protoss and i want symbol to advance. Seed >> Hero in pvp, Hero >> symbol in pvz. Gotta remember the bigger picture bro

Won't matter much if he dies to a Terran in Ro8.


Blasphemy.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 14:23:24
September 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#2017
On September 20 2012 23:20 Waxangel wrote:
five hour group, jesus christ


Just everyday for the GSL by now -___-

Maybe they should consider doing it OSL style and playing a bo3 from each group every night. Might need to stretch the tournament a little longer, but would at least keep the length of each day down a little without going full on bo1 again.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
September 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#2018
In the last fight of that game Symbol could have had 184 Infested Terrans, that's 2373,6 DPS
bisu
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
September 20 2012 14:23 GMT
#2019
NOOOOOO
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33416 Posts
September 20 2012 14:23 GMT
#2020
well, that's the shittiest way to lose a game
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
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