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Durlamor
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada40 Posts
September 13 2012 16:43 GMT
#21
I've seen Scarlett beat Huk twice, Hero, Ostojiy, and Vibe recently, and going 22-2 against North Americas best, anyone that ranks her less than Titan is either crazy or hasn't been paying attention.
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
September 13 2012 16:48 GMT
#22
On September 14 2012 01:43 Durlamor wrote:
I've seen Scarlett beat Huk twice, Hero, Ostojiy, and Vibe recently, and going 22-2 against North Americas best, anyone that ranks her less than Titan is either crazy or hasn't been paying attention.


Two of those guys are zergs, Huk is no longer really relevant.
But a win against Hero is quite impressive. Now Titan is a really good protoss, and Scarlett definitely need to meet more accomplished protosses in more series to be placed on the level of Nerchio, and I don't even think of the one of Stephano.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
September 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#23
Bly > LiveZerg
DarkHydra < Abver
Nerchio < fraer
Scarlett < Titan

RoX.KiS 3-1 Acer
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 17:19:18
September 13 2012 17:16 GMT
#24
On September 14 2012 01:43 Durlamor wrote:
I've seen Scarlett beat Huk twice, Hero, Ostojiy, and Vibe recently, and going 22-2 against North Americas best, anyone that ranks her less than Titan is either crazy or hasn't been paying attention.


At WCS NA she defeated Theognis, Mystik, Huk, Insur and Vibe twice. Titans route on the way to winning WCS russia was Creed, Livezerg, sLivko twice and Happy twice, which seems to be harder. Her RSL-performance was impressive and I am not denying that she has a reasonable (around 50%) chance to win that match, but erveryone who says, she will win easily against a guy with a nearly 70%-Winrate against Nerchio should reconsider that.
Durlamor
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada40 Posts
September 13 2012 18:09 GMT
#25
On September 14 2012 01:48 ColtraneL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 01:43 Durlamor wrote:
I've seen Scarlett beat Huk twice, Hero, Ostojiy, and Vibe recently, and going 22-2 against North Americas best, anyone that ranks her less than Titan is either crazy or hasn't been paying attention.


Two of those guys are zergs, Huk is no longer really relevant.
But a win against Hero is quite impressive. Now Titan is a really good protoss, and Scarlett definitely need to meet more accomplished protosses in more series to be placed on the level of Nerchio, and I don't even think of the one of Stephano.


2 of them are top level foreign Zerg, and ZvZ she says is her worst matchup. Huk went 2-0 vs Ret last night so clearly he's not out yet, and clearly not awful against Zerg, and she made Hero look easy in game 3, like GM vs Diamond easy.
I wouldn't say she is at Stephanos level at all, mostly cause he's the only one that knows how to find it, but Nerchio isn't a stretch to me, they are close in skill but she is VERY confident vs Protoss.
Durlamor
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada40 Posts
September 13 2012 18:13 GMT
#26
Bly 2-0 Livezerg
DarkHydra 1-2 Abver
Nerchio 2-0 fraer
Scarlett 2-1 Titan


Acer wins 3-1.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
September 13 2012 18:57 GMT
#27
gonna be close i think.
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
September 13 2012 19:07 GMT
#28
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


...dat Canadian bias, man!
CryMeAReaper
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark1135 Posts
September 13 2012 19:59 GMT
#29
I think people who don't know TitaN will be surprised, the guy is an absolutely micro beast and has a huge variance in his builds, he's a really scary player to go against, especially a zerg I'd imagine. Now I still don't know who I feel is the favorite between him and Scarlett, as she has also had a couple of realllyyy solid last couple of months, truly showing her strength. I'm inclined to give Scarlett the slight edge, but that might be because I simply seen more of her, while TitaN has been more silent, practicing. He did win WCS Russia / 3rd Ritmix so I gues that's something haha.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 13 2012 20:31 GMT
#30
On September 13 2012 15:08 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


I wouldn´t consider it being a bold statement, Titan is in form right now and you can´t be no.1 elo without playing very strong. In fact, he might have the strongest foreign PvZ (Considering it is both, MaNas and Nani worst MU. I can definitly see him beating her, it is an open match IMHO.


Foreigner ELO means literally nothing. It is 100% worthless in ever single way.

I don't see any way that Acer loses this match honestly.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 13 2012 20:42 GMT
#31
On September 14 2012 05:31 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 15:08 Xoronius wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


I wouldn´t consider it being a bold statement, Titan is in form right now and you can´t be no.1 elo without playing very strong. In fact, he might have the strongest foreign PvZ (Considering it is both, MaNas and Nani worst MU. I can definitly see him beating her, it is an open match IMHO.


Foreigner ELO means literally nothing. It is 100% worthless in ever single way.

I don't see any way that Acer loses this match honestly.

Really? No way?

Bly is decent, but LiveZerg is also a ZvZ specialist, RoX.KIS has a good shot to win the first match.

Abver is up against DarkHydra, a player who just switched to Zerg and was never really above average to begin with, so he should be quite confident. RoX.KIS has a really good chance to win the second match.

Fraer is quite good in PvZ and his overall record against Nerchio in the last six months is 11-2. Tell me he doesn't have a chance to win here, too.

Titan is quite possibly the strongest EU Protoss vs Zerg. Scarlett is good and even though we can't really judge her level just yet from the very few games we've seen her play, she is probably favoured, but it's in no way certain that she'll win.

You're way exaggerating Acer's chances. I mean, I picked them to win, but it could be very, very close.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
September 13 2012 20:48 GMT
#32
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


Well its not like Scarlett is bad but so far we only watched her at wcs canada and ipl to have sucess. Titan was third at wcg and ia constantly in the top of eu scene, imho , best P there with sase, naniwa and mana. So i think he is favoredin this clash, since i dont think Scarlett can fight top eu players actually. But its gonna be soon and we will see.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 13 2012 20:52 GMT
#33
On September 14 2012 05:42 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:31 Hall0wed wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:08 Xoronius wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


I wouldn´t consider it being a bold statement, Titan is in form right now and you can´t be no.1 elo without playing very strong. In fact, he might have the strongest foreign PvZ (Considering it is both, MaNas and Nani worst MU. I can definitly see him beating her, it is an open match IMHO.


Foreigner ELO means literally nothing. It is 100% worthless in ever single way.

I don't see any way that Acer loses this match honestly.

Really? No way?

Bly is decent, but LiveZerg is also a ZvZ specialist, RoX.KIS has a good shot to win the first match.

Abver is up against DarkHydra, a player who just switched to Zerg and was never really above average to begin with, so he should be quite confident. RoX.KIS has a really good chance to win the second match.

Fraer is quite good in PvZ and his overall record against Nerchio in the last six months is 11-2. Tell me he doesn't have a chance to win here, too.

Titan is quite possibly the strongest EU Protoss vs Zerg. Scarlett is good and even though we can't really judge her level just yet from the very few games we've seen her play, she is probably favoured, but it's in no way certain that she'll win.

You're way exaggerating Acer's chances. I mean, I picked them to win, but it could be very, very close.

Wait DarkHydra switched to zerg, I guess acer demanded he stop playing terran or be removed from the team.
Glorious SEA doto
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 13 2012 20:55 GMT
#34
On September 14 2012 05:48 DGB.Zerok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


Well its not like Scarlett is bad but so far we only watched her at wcs canada and ipl to have sucess. Titan was third at wcg and ia constantly in the top of eu scene, imho , best P there with sase, naniwa and mana. So i think he is favoredin this clash, since i dont think Scarlett can fight top eu players actually. But its gonna be soon and we will see.

Online, she also three-killed TSL in the IPL TAC and beat sLivko and HerO in Ritmix RSL.

She certainly can compete, we just need to see more games to see how she matches up against all the other players.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 13 2012 20:58 GMT
#35
On September 14 2012 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:42 StarVe wrote:
On September 14 2012 05:31 Hall0wed wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:08 Xoronius wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


I wouldn´t consider it being a bold statement, Titan is in form right now and you can´t be no.1 elo without playing very strong. In fact, he might have the strongest foreign PvZ (Considering it is both, MaNas and Nani worst MU. I can definitly see him beating her, it is an open match IMHO.


Foreigner ELO means literally nothing. It is 100% worthless in ever single way.

I don't see any way that Acer loses this match honestly.

Really? No way?

Bly is decent, but LiveZerg is also a ZvZ specialist, RoX.KIS has a good shot to win the first match.

Abver is up against DarkHydra, a player who just switched to Zerg and was never really above average to begin with, so he should be quite confident. RoX.KIS has a really good chance to win the second match.

Fraer is quite good in PvZ and his overall record against Nerchio in the last six months is 11-2. Tell me he doesn't have a chance to win here, too.

Titan is quite possibly the strongest EU Protoss vs Zerg. Scarlett is good and even though we can't really judge her level just yet from the very few games we've seen her play, she is probably favoured, but it's in no way certain that she'll win.

You're way exaggerating Acer's chances. I mean, I picked them to win, but it could be very, very close.

Wait DarkHydra switched to zerg, I guess acer demanded he stop playing terran or be removed from the team.

Yeah, Scarlett tweeted this a couple of days ago:
Scarlett Maeve ‏@AcerScarlett

AcerDarkhydra playing Zerg now; 100% zerg team :D



Can't have switched too long ago.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#36
On September 14 2012 05:58 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:52 Fusilero wrote:
On September 14 2012 05:42 StarVe wrote:
On September 14 2012 05:31 Hall0wed wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:08 Xoronius wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


I wouldn´t consider it being a bold statement, Titan is in form right now and you can´t be no.1 elo without playing very strong. In fact, he might have the strongest foreign PvZ (Considering it is both, MaNas and Nani worst MU. I can definitly see him beating her, it is an open match IMHO.


Foreigner ELO means literally nothing. It is 100% worthless in ever single way.

I don't see any way that Acer loses this match honestly.

Really? No way?

Bly is decent, but LiveZerg is also a ZvZ specialist, RoX.KIS has a good shot to win the first match.

Abver is up against DarkHydra, a player who just switched to Zerg and was never really above average to begin with, so he should be quite confident. RoX.KIS has a really good chance to win the second match.

Fraer is quite good in PvZ and his overall record against Nerchio in the last six months is 11-2. Tell me he doesn't have a chance to win here, too.

Titan is quite possibly the strongest EU Protoss vs Zerg. Scarlett is good and even though we can't really judge her level just yet from the very few games we've seen her play, she is probably favoured, but it's in no way certain that she'll win.

You're way exaggerating Acer's chances. I mean, I picked them to win, but it could be very, very close.

Wait DarkHydra switched to zerg, I guess acer demanded he stop playing terran or be removed from the team.

Yeah, Scarlett tweeted this a couple of days ago:
Show nested quote +
Scarlett Maeve ‏@AcerScarlett

AcerDarkhydra playing Zerg now; 100% zerg team :D

https://twitter.com/AcerScarlett/status/244786318826143744

Can't have switched too long ago.

Acer is now patchteam.
Glorious SEA doto
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 21:04:44
September 13 2012 21:02 GMT
#37
Isn't Darkhydra actually Terran?

Edit: I should read threads.

With that, this could go to the ace match if Nercio and Bly arn't careful.

Of course, Scarlett would destroy any of these guys in an ace match so I don't think Acer fans such as myself don't need to worry too much, and Bly is pretty damn good so shouldn't lose to Livezerg anyway (though Livezerg isn't bad and neither is Fraer, despite not doing so hot in WCS Ukraine).
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 13 2012 21:05 GMT
#38
On September 14 2012 05:42 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:31 Hall0wed wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:08 Xoronius wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


I wouldn´t consider it being a bold statement, Titan is in form right now and you can´t be no.1 elo without playing very strong. In fact, he might have the strongest foreign PvZ (Considering it is both, MaNas and Nani worst MU. I can definitly see him beating her, it is an open match IMHO.


Foreigner ELO means literally nothing. It is 100% worthless in ever single way.

I don't see any way that Acer loses this match honestly.

Really? No way?

Bly is decent, but LiveZerg is also a ZvZ specialist, RoX.KIS has a good shot to win the first match.

Abver is up against DarkHydra, a player who just switched to Zerg and was never really above average to begin with, so he should be quite confident. RoX.KIS has a really good chance to win the second match.

Fraer is quite good in PvZ and his overall record against Nerchio in the last six months is 11-2. Tell me he doesn't have a chance to win here, too.

Titan is quite possibly the strongest EU Protoss vs Zerg. Scarlett is good and even though we can't really judge her level just yet from the very few games we've seen her play, she is probably favoured, but it's in no way certain that she'll win.

You're way exaggerating Acer's chances. I mean, I picked them to win, but it could be very, very close.


Honestly I don't really know (compared to my knowledge of the KR scene that is, I still know more than most) about nor do I really care about EU teams like these 2, but I think I understand this league and how this should go down. Even if it manages to go to an ace I don't see who will take down Scarlett/Nerchio. If 1 of them does manage to lose their match then the other is likely in better shape that day and should be able to handle it easily. This on top of the fact that Scarlett already posted in this thread saying that people should watch makes me quite confident in my prediction.
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StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
September 13 2012 21:08 GMT
#39
My god there's a ridiculous amount of Zergs..
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
September 13 2012 21:10 GMT
#40
On September 14 2012 05:55 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:48 DGB.Zerok wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


Well its not like Scarlett is bad but so far we only watched her at wcs canada and ipl to have sucess. Titan was third at wcg and ia constantly in the top of eu scene, imho , best P there with sase, naniwa and mana. So i think he is favoredin this clash, since i dont think Scarlett can fight top eu players actually. But its gonna be soon and we will see.

Online, she also three-killed TSL in the IPL TAC and beat sLivko and HerO in Ritmix RSL.

She certainly can compete, we just need to see more games to see how she matches up against all the other players.


Nobody said that she cant, I just responded on his attitude like Scarlett is way better then TitaN, even tho Russian bro is in much better shape when it comes to tournaments.
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