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Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
September 13 2012 21:19 GMT
#41
zerg invasion
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
September 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#42
Rox can win if it goes 3-1, (with everyone but fraer winning), but if they go to an ace somebody has to beat nerchio, with titan being the best bet. Should be an evenly matched series. Also, with darkhydra switching to zerg Acer is actually a mono-race team.
smoosh
Profile Joined July 2011
31 Posts
September 13 2012 21:30 GMT
#43
On September 14 2012 06:10 DGB.Zerok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 05:55 StarVe wrote:
On September 14 2012 05:48 DGB.Zerok wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


Well its not like Scarlett is bad but so far we only watched her at wcs canada and ipl to have sucess. Titan was third at wcg and ia constantly in the top of eu scene, imho , best P there with sase, naniwa and mana. So i think he is favoredin this clash, since i dont think Scarlett can fight top eu players actually. But its gonna be soon and we will see.

Online, she also three-killed TSL in the IPL TAC and beat sLivko and HerO in Ritmix RSL.

She certainly can compete, we just need to see more games to see how she matches up against all the other players.


Nobody said that she cant, I just responded on his attitude like Scarlett is way better then TitaN, even tho Russian bro is in much better shape when it comes to tournaments.


This just isn't true. You're using results from almost a year ago to say that TitaN is in "better shape" for tournaments. Scarlett won WCS Canada and then WALKED through WCS North America. This, in my eyes, is more impressive than TitaN's WCS Russia victory. These are the most recent tournament results we have to compare.

What's more than that is Scarlett has shown that she can beat top level Korean players on different stages and with consistency (and also recently). She has ice in her veins.

I think your argument basically boils down to the fact that TitaN has appeared in more tournaments over his career than Scarlett (and also that he plays more European players? As if this means anything?), but this really means nothing if you look at it from a quality over quantity perspective; Scarlett's tournament appearances thus far have been nothing short of astounding.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 13 2012 21:41 GMT
#44
To be fair, Titan is one of those players who walk through all of Europe's online tournaments. Him, fraer, Nerchio and Hyun are players who are constantly in the finals of every online cup available to them.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 23:18:54
September 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#45
On September 14 2012 06:30 smoosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2012 06:10 DGB.Zerok wrote:
On September 14 2012 05:55 StarVe wrote:
On September 14 2012 05:48 DGB.Zerok wrote:
On September 13 2012 15:01 LgNKane wrote:
On September 13 2012 14:17 Dexington wrote:
LiveZerg has some beast of a ZvZ and Abver is just in general better than DarkHydra (imo). The most pivotal match is Scarlett vs Titan, but I think Titan is better.

Nerchio should beat fraer, however. Maybe the only player on their team who can.

Edit: oh shit, as I see above, maybe not. Also, if DH is in fact playing Zerg instead of Terran, Abver should definitely win


I can't see Scarlett losing to Titan, and I think calling Titan better than Scarlett is quite a... bold statement.


Well its not like Scarlett is bad but so far we only watched her at wcs canada and ipl to have sucess. Titan was third at wcg and ia constantly in the top of eu scene, imho , best P there with sase, naniwa and mana. So i think he is favoredin this clash, since i dont think Scarlett can fight top eu players actually. But its gonna be soon and we will see.

Online, she also three-killed TSL in the IPL TAC and beat sLivko and HerO in Ritmix RSL.

She certainly can compete, we just need to see more games to see how she matches up against all the other players.


Nobody said that she cant, I just responded on his attitude like Scarlett is way better then TitaN, even tho Russian bro is in much better shape when it comes to tournaments.


This just isn't true. You're using results from almost a year ago to say that TitaN is in "better shape" for tournaments. Scarlett won WCS Canada and then WALKED through WCS North America. This, in my eyes, is more impressive than TitaN's WCS Russia victory. These are the most recent tournament results we have to compare.

What's more than that is Scarlett has shown that she can beat top level Korean players on different stages and with consistency (and also recently). She has ice in her veins.

I think your argument basically boils down to the fact that TitaN has appeared in more tournaments over his career than Scarlett (and also that he plays more European players? As if this means anything?), but this really means nothing if you look at it from a quality over quantity perspective; Scarlett's tournament appearances thus far have been nothing short of astounding.


I think you misunderstood me and didnt quite read what I wrote. I said that TitaN is in better shape when it comes to tournaments, which means that he go very far in tournaments he is in. He was top4 on WHOLE WCG, not just RU quali btw. Its like very far from statement that Scarlett cant go far or compete with top players, but many of you exaggerating she's performances. Yes, she walked though NA WCS but WCG TitaN was 4th is like way harder competition for a time.

No, it has nothing to do with Titan appearing in more tournaments, I am just taking the extracts and say results. And ok, but if you count off WCG then you have to count off IPL. He wasnt participating in tours recently as Scarlett did, but I think its too cocky to say that "Cant see Scarlett losing to TitaN", as its statement I reacted on.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 13 2012 23:08 GMT
#46
hoping for some good games! Acer has a beastly rooster so
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 13 2012 23:21 GMT
#47
So many zergs
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 23:36:41
September 13 2012 23:36 GMT
#48
On September 13 2012 10:56 00Visor wrote:
Fraer is the nemesis of Nerchio.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=4155&part=games&vs=1771&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=12&from_day=2&to_year=2012&to_month=8&to_day=29&action=Update

Betting on RoxKis.


Well he did beat Fraer today already... in HotS beta cup

Titan has strong ZvP too, but well Scarlet beat Hero in bo3 recently so... gonna be osom!
oh in the sun sun having fun
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
September 14 2012 03:35 GMT
#49
Azael's absolute joy at Nerchio's anger makes me very happy. :D
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 14 2012 03:35 GMT
#50
Damn. Fraer, such abusive play ;D
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
September 14 2012 03:37 GMT
#51
Lol @ Nerchio complaining about bullshit races.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
September 14 2012 03:49 GMT
#52
2 European teams -> nobody watching at this time. Good games tho, and enjoy the casting
Obaten
Profile Joined December 2010
United States730 Posts
September 14 2012 03:50 GMT
#53
Nerchio mad
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
September 14 2012 03:51 GMT
#54
Wow only 600 viewers. Poor EG :/
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
September 14 2012 03:51 GMT
#55
Nerchio looks like Idra, so he might as well act like him. And Fraer is really fuckin good.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 03:51:56
September 14 2012 03:51 GMT
#56
On September 14 2012 12:49 dizzy101 wrote:
2 European teams -> nobody watching at this time. Good games tho, and enjoy the casting


NASL is also taking 5000 viewers.

Fraer's my man. He really does have Nerchio's number it seems.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
September 14 2012 03:55 GMT
#57
On September 14 2012 08:36 mijagi182 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 10:56 00Visor wrote:
Fraer is the nemesis of Nerchio.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=4155&part=games&vs=1771&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=12&from_day=2&to_year=2012&to_month=8&to_day=29&action=Update

Betting on RoxKis.


Well he did beat Fraer today already... in HotS beta cup

Titan has strong ZvP too, but well Scarlet beat Hero in bo3 recently so... gonna be osom!


Nerchio also lost to Fraer in the HotS cup in the winners bracket before. And now lost again.
Its pretty obvious Fraer has figured Nerchio out somehow. Not that he always wins, but way more than you would expect from him vs a strong ZvPer like Nerchio.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
September 14 2012 04:13 GMT
#58
yep... no surprise as i said earlier.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 14 2012 04:14 GMT
#59
Feel like Azael is miss-calling most of the engagements in this match.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
SoulReaver306
Profile Joined April 2012
Australia210 Posts
September 14 2012 04:17 GMT
#60
On September 14 2012 13:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Feel like Azael is miss-calling most of the engagements in this match.


Not really. He's calling the fights right. But underestimating how much a 4 base zerg can trade for a toss with a late third.
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