On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote: Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!
Where is MMA when you need him?
Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.
You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...
which terran is actually good at TvP?
Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.
ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's. MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )
Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.
he "should" have beaten seed too, prime players need antichoke buff
Shoulda coulda woulda. Seed played out game 4 absolutely perfectly and even as the biggest Byun fanboy in the universe i can't give seed anything but praise for how he played out that series.
I challenge you for the title of bigger Byun fanboy. Seed should get credit for not shaking in the face of byun's off kilter style compared to other protosses but that SCV pull physically hurts me whenever I think of it.
I WILL FIGHT YOU D:
Nah but i agree that SCV pull should have worked, but seeds dt's basically hit at the exact wrong time lol. If he had walked them in sooner or later Byun probably would have been able to fend them off without taking too much damage or he would have pushed and destroyed Seed right there and then.
On August 29 2012 21:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Moletrap: "We're gonna take a look at the Protoss tech tree... in case you guys needed to know how that works..."
He's doing the best he can to stall for time, but I really wish the game would start already
Ya saying moeltrap is a bad caster and is shit is stupid. The only reason i dislike him, is his voice is not so easy on the ear as others. But he cant help that. Guy needs a break from the hate xD
On August 29 2012 21:02 FliedLice wrote: So it's kespa vs esf fans now?
Sigh...
People need competition. If it isn't BW vs SC2, its Kespa vs ESF, if it isn't protoss vs terran its zerg vs protoss. Foreigner vs Asians, TL.net vs Reddit, Twitch vs gomtv, mods vs users, Taeja vs the rest of the world.
Harmony is an illusion
So what you're saying is Quantic.Illusion can put an end to all the flame wars?
Thats EXACTLY what im saying.
Illusion is the SC2 messiah who will unite us all together and save esports.
On August 29 2012 21:02 FliedLice wrote: So it's kespa vs esf fans now?
Sigh...
Its been that since that retarded Elephant thread by TL. And it only gets reinforced every single LR thread when the massive flame-baiting and hating from both sides goes on completely unpunished. I have no clue why the mods allow it, but hey thats their call
you can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16
And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right.
To reinforce this, 7 out of 32 players were Kespa players. That's 21.875% In the top 10, there were 3 Kespa players. That's 30.00%
Kespa players were overrepresented in the top 10 given the amount of Kespa players that entered.
6 kespa players were invited. And unless claimed otherwise, I believe all kespa players that were not invited have tried to go through the open bracket, which only 1 made it through.
(directed at nestled quote previous poster) it was actually pretty much proportional, as you're distorting a little bit by saying top 10. Since 12 qualified, 3/12 were kespa and 7/32 is as close to proportional as you can get.
On August 29 2012 21:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Moletrap: "We're gonna take a look at the Protoss tech tree... in case you guys needed to know how that works..."
He's doing the best he can to stall for time, but I really wish the game would start already
Ya saying moeltrap is a bad caster and is shit is stupid. The only reason i dislike him, is his voice is not so easy on the ear as others. But he cant help that. Guy needs a break from the hate xD
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote: Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!
Where is MMA when you need him?
Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.
You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...
which terran is actually good at TvP?
Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe
I thought Taeja = LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe?
Anyways - BO 1 format is pathetic, there is no way for preparation or clever strategies, mind games - it is just like one ladder match.
P.S. Also BW idiot fanbois are fucking irritating in this thread.
So are people like you who have been here for a total of 5 seconds and think they know better than OGN on how to format their tournament.
Just because they've used it for ages doesn't make it good.
I think with over 10 years of experience they know what is good and isn't good for their targetted audience. Their program is broadcast on cable TV across Korea. The people waching don't have the time or attention span to watch 12 potential 30 minute games a bo3 format might produce.
BeSt was always pretty bad at dealing with stuff that doesn't go according to his plan. Despite MC's PvP being awful these days, this is probably the most likely match for eSF to take today.
On August 29 2012 21:02 FliedLice wrote: So it's kespa vs esf fans now?
Sigh...
Its been that since that retarded Elephant thread by TL. And it only gets reinforced every single LR thread when the massive flame-baiting and hating from both sides goes on completely unpunished. I have no clue why the mods allow it, but hey thats their call
The mods are BW elitists as well I agree though, it's very annoying.