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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 29 2012 12:06 GMT
#1721
On August 29 2012 21:03 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:59 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:58 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:56 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:53 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, MKP, Mvp, Gumiho, Byun.

ByuN? Hardly. Gumi is a nice player but I wouldn't say he's great at TvP, but he is good. Mvp's relies on mind games and killing them before storm imo. I've never seen him deal well in a late game scenario vs templars apart from that specific game on Metropolis against squirtle where he could camp to BC's.
MKP's is still the best imo. (of ESF players anyway )



Byun is definitely great at TvP, not quite sure why you would say he isn't. Remember, he got to the ro4 by beating basically only code S level protoss and lost 2-3 to the eventual winner of the entire GSL.

he "should" have beaten seed too, prime players need antichoke buff


Shoulda coulda woulda. Seed played out game 4 absolutely perfectly and even as the biggest Byun fanboy in the universe i can't give seed anything but praise for how he played out that series.

I challenge you for the title of bigger Byun fanboy. Seed should get credit for not shaking in the face of byun's off kilter style compared to other protosses but that SCV pull physically hurts me whenever I think of it.



I WILL FIGHT YOU D:

Nah but i agree that SCV pull should have worked, but seeds dt's basically hit at the exact wrong time lol. If he had walked them in sooner or later Byun probably would have been able to fend them off without taking too much damage or he would have pushed and destroyed Seed right there and then.
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 29 2012 12:06 GMT
#1722
On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
I feel SOO bad for Moletrap...
look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT


whats up with that, are people just that spiteful that they go out of their way to make someone to lose their job.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 29 2012 12:06 GMT
#1723
On August 29 2012 21:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Moletrap: "We're gonna take a look at the Protoss tech tree... in case you guys needed to know how that works..."

He's doing the best he can to stall for time, but I really wish the game would start already


Ya saying moeltrap is a bad caster and is shit is stupid. The only reason i dislike him, is his voice is not so easy on the ear as others. But he cant help that. Guy needs a break from the hate xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 29 2012 12:06 GMT
#1724
On August 29 2012 21:06 Loxley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:05 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:04 Loxley wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:02 FliedLice wrote:
So it's kespa vs esf fans now?

Sigh...


People need competition. If it isn't BW vs SC2, its Kespa vs ESF, if it isn't protoss vs terran its zerg vs protoss. Foreigner vs Asians, TL.net vs Reddit, Twitch vs gomtv, mods vs users, Taeja vs the rest of the world.

Harmony is an illusion

So what you're saying is Quantic.Illusion can put an end to all the flame wars?


Thats EXACTLY what im saying.

Illusion is the SC2 messiah who will unite us all together and save esports.
Glorious SEA doto
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
August 29 2012 12:06 GMT
#1725
On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
I feel SOO bad for Moletrap...
look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT


it's the same 3 people that are spamming
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
August 29 2012 12:06 GMT
#1726
On August 29 2012 21:02 FliedLice wrote:
So it's kespa vs esf fans now?

Sigh...


Its been that since that retarded Elephant thread by TL. And it only gets reinforced every single LR thread when the massive flame-baiting and hating from both sides goes on completely unpunished. I have no clue why the mods allow it, but hey thats their call
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1727
I don't understand all that Moletrap hate.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 12:07:37
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1728
On August 29 2012 21:05 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:01 Dakure wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:55 setzer wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:49 GreggSauce wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote:
Yeah, two Bo1 TvP have now decided that KeSPA will definitly take over. Sometimes people are really stupid o.O


or you're slightly more delusional.

have you not followed anything thats going on?

they've only been playing for months now against people who the metagame is based around


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

you can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16


And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right.

To reinforce this, 7 out of 32 players were Kespa players. That's 21.875%
In the top 10, there were 3 Kespa players. That's 30.00%

Kespa players were overrepresented in the top 10 given the amount of Kespa players that entered.


6 kespa players were invited. And unless claimed otherwise, I believe all kespa players that were not invited have tried to go through the open bracket, which only 1 made it through.


(directed at nestled quote previous poster) it was actually pretty much proportional, as you're distorting a little bit by saying top 10. Since 12 qualified, 3/12 were kespa and 7/32 is as close to proportional as you can get.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1729
WOO, ELEPHANTS YEAH
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1730
On August 29 2012 21:05 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:03 sinigang wrote:
ESF pros (and GSL fans) must really be embarrassed by this... here's hoping MC can pull off a win for a twist.

if this gets to a macro game, i say Best has a shot.


Embarrassed because ... ?

I want good games. Anything else doesn't matter.



Same for me. Players mean nothing, I just want to see good games! :D
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1731
"I had a bit of an awkward moment..."
We knew, Moletrap, we knew.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1732
On August 29 2012 21:06 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Moletrap: "We're gonna take a look at the Protoss tech tree... in case you guys needed to know how that works..."

He's doing the best he can to stall for time, but I really wish the game would start already


Ya saying moeltrap is a bad caster and is shit is stupid. The only reason i dislike him, is his voice is not so easy on the ear as others. But he cant help that. Guy needs a break from the hate xD


hide chat everytime, can't stand it.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
superarmy
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand422 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1733
Awww poor Moletrap
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1734
hhhahahahhaa this korean cast is hilarious
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1735
On August 29 2012 21:03 The KY wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:56 setzer wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:54 Embir wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 Fusilero wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:50 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Djagulingu wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:45 Myrddraal wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:44 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Ugh, I hoped the KeSPA players would do well so quickly, but not against the M-Terrans - not like this!


Where is MMA when you need him?

Hopefully his extra M will keep him going.

You don't want to see MMA playing a TvP. He can't even TvP to save his life, he never could do it. And at this current state of TvP, well...


which terran is actually good at TvP?

Taeja, PirateTerran, MoustacheTerran and LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe


I thought Taeja = LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe?

Anyways - BO 1 format is pathetic, there is no way for preparation or clever strategies, mind games - it is just like one ladder match.

P.S. Also BW idiot fanbois are fucking irritating in this thread.


So are people like you who have been here for a total of 5 seconds and think they know better than OGN on how to format their tournament.


Just because they've used it for ages doesn't make it good.


I think with over 10 years of experience they know what is good and isn't good for their targetted audience. Their program is broadcast on cable TV across Korea. The people waching don't have the time or attention span to watch 12 potential 30 minute games a bo3 format might produce.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1736
BeSt was always pretty bad at dealing with stuff that doesn't go according to his plan. Despite MC's PvP being awful these days, this is probably the most likely match for eSF to take today.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 12:08:03
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1737
On August 29 2012 21:06 Solarist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:02 FliedLice wrote:
So it's kespa vs esf fans now?

Sigh...


Its been that since that retarded Elephant thread by TL. And it only gets reinforced every single LR thread when the massive flame-baiting and hating from both sides goes on completely unpunished. I have no clue why the mods allow it, but hey thats their call

The mods are BW elitists as well I agree though, it's very annoying.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1738
Will we see President Protoss, the Boss Toss today or will we see the Flounder, the Suicide Toss instead?

I hope for the former.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Atheist
Profile Joined December 2011
186 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1739
relax best
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1740
Mirror mirror on the wall, who the buffest of'em all?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
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