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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18650 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1741
On August 29 2012 21:05 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:03 sharkie wrote:
WCS: Kespa > ESF in Bo3s - "They are in a slump, they are scrubs, win is worth nothing."
OSL: Kespa > ESF in Bo1s (vs the elite) - "Bo1s dont matter."

Yeah, very mature ESF fans lol.

W8 when Kespa players start winning tourneys - all tourneys are a joke and we quit SC II


I can so see this. Any tournament won by Kespa players will be a joke.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1742
poor moletrap
n.Die_Jaedong
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
August 29 2012 12:07 GMT
#1743
On August 29 2012 21:01 catabowl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:57 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:55 setzer wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:49 GreggSauce wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote:
Yeah, two Bo1 TvP have now decided that KeSPA will definitly take over. Sometimes people are really stupid o.O


or you're slightly more delusional.

have you not followed anything thats going on?

they've only been playing for months now against people who the metagame is based around


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

you can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16


And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right.


splitting 50? there are total of 8 kespa players that managed to play in the tourney out of 32 spots, and 6 of them are invites. That means a heck bunch of kespa pros didn't even make it through the qualifiers.

And even the top cream of the kespa players can even only take 3 out of 8 spots from top 8 while rest disappears in the middle, and there's not going to be a 50/50 split by the time ro16 finishes, even in OSL


Exactly. People forget about the qualifiers. They just focus on the final 32/16 groups. Of course the best will rise up. But to say Kespa > ESF based on a 50/50 split of a round 32/16 is a joke and poor argument. This thinking has pissed me off and I'm now throwing my support to ESF players. I was rooting for the BW pros to do something strong but now this rampant hypocritical BW fan base has destroyed my confidence in a civil transition.

Yes, a lot of Kespa pros failed to qualify. But a lot of ESF players failed to qualify too. The difference? ESF players need not practice BW. They have been practicing only SC2 and for a much longer time than Kespa pros. Furthermore, given the improvement we witnessed in WCS KR itself, it is worth noting that the qualifiers happened at a time when Kespa pros had little official SC2 practice time.

I'm not saying that Kespa is dominating. But to me it looks like there's something to be said about the performance of the Kespa players.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1744
DAT SIGN haha <3
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1745
Is Oz playing today?
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1746
On August 29 2012 21:05 Coolhwip wrote:
The amount of downtime in the OSL so far has been so painfull.


Its due to the fact that the games are being broadcasted on TV --> ads compulsory.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1747
OSL RO16 Group D Day 2
Match 2520

BeSt MC

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Best spawns as red in P2
MC spawns as blue in P8
Best just a second faster than MC
Undetaker cheerful!!
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Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1748
This thread is a bit despressing. What we saw today was MKP dominating pretty hard rain, then throwing the game away (quite standard from MKP), and then MVP being punished for his greedy / no scout play in a bo1.

Without the kespa / esf rivalry people would be mostly saying "shit games overall today". But it goes into fanboys war :-/
Atheist
Profile Joined December 2011
186 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1749
lololol
myk3
Profile Joined June 2010
Austria80 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1750
On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
I feel SOO bad for Moletrap...
look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT


I dont feel too bad for moletrap because I personally don´t really like him as a caster.
I do feel bad however, for being part of a community that seemingly has nothing else to do than spam and bitch around.
Also I find it very unprofessional for an official broadcast to not have appropriate moderation.

Uh game has started
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1751
awww i think moletrap just pronounced "pronunciation" wrong hahaha
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1752
Moletrap doesn't seem so bad. He's not a stellar caster but he seems decent. At least decent enough not to deserve much of the hate.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1753
On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
I feel SOO bad for Moletrap...
look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT


Actually a fair amount of the spam was positive, it was almost 50/50 at some points if you believe it.
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Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1754
Dat Undertaker poster is funny - "Dead man" gained a lot of weight
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1755
suddenly stork with tanned skin and curly hair
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1756
best cheerful!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 12:10:05
August 29 2012 12:08 GMT
#1757
On August 29 2012 21:07 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:05 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:01 Dakure wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:55 setzer wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:51 iky43210 wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:49 GreggSauce wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote:
Yeah, two Bo1 TvP have now decided that KeSPA will definitly take over. Sometimes people are really stupid o.O


or you're slightly more delusional.

have you not followed anything thats going on?

they've only been playing for months now against people who the metagame is based around


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

you can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16


And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right.

To reinforce this, 7 out of 32 players were Kespa players. That's 21.875%
In the top 10, there were 3 Kespa players. That's 30.00%

Kespa players were overrepresented in the top 10 given the amount of Kespa players that entered.


6 kespa players were invited. And unless claimed otherwise, I believe all kespa players that were not invited have tried to go through the open bracket, which only 1 made it through.


(directed at nestled quote previous poster) it was actually pretty much proportional, as you're distorting a little bit by saying top 10. Since 12 qualified, 3/12 were kespa and 7/32 is as close to proportional as you can get.

And actually its of 16 players that were qualified, only one of them is kespa player
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
August 29 2012 12:09 GMT
#1758
I'm hoping best does well, but fuck me, that Undertaker entrance makes me want MC to win lol
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 29 2012 12:09 GMT
#1759
On August 29 2012 21:06 Tsutchie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
I feel SOO bad for Moletrap...
look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT


whats up with that, are people just that spiteful that they go out of their way to make someone to lose their job.


well it's twich.tv chat


im not much of a moletrap fan, but damn i feel bad for having to do this all on his own
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
August 29 2012 12:09 GMT
#1760
I feel bad about this day, I hope MC revenges the eSF!
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