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On August 29 2012 21:05 Hazzyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 21:03 sharkie wrote: WCS: Kespa > ESF in Bo3s - "They are in a slump, they are scrubs, win is worth nothing." OSL: Kespa > ESF in Bo1s (vs the elite) - "Bo1s dont matter."
Yeah, very mature ESF fans lol. W8 when Kespa players start winning tourneys - all tourneys are a joke and we quit SC II 
I can so see this. Any tournament won by Kespa players will be a joke.
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On August 29 2012 21:01 catabowl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 20:57 iky43210 wrote:On August 29 2012 20:55 setzer wrote:On August 29 2012 20:51 iky43210 wrote:On August 29 2012 20:49 GreggSauce wrote:On August 29 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote: Yeah, two Bo1 TvP have now decided that KeSPA will definitly take over. Sometimes people are really stupid o.O or you're slightly more delusional. have you not followed anything thats going on? they've only been playing for months now against people who the metagame is based around http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Koreayou can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16 And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right. splitting 50? there are total of 8 kespa players that managed to play in the tourney out of 32 spots, and 6 of them are invites. That means a heck bunch of kespa pros didn't even make it through the qualifiers. And even the top cream of the kespa players can even only take 3 out of 8 spots from top 8 while rest disappears in the middle, and there's not going to be a 50/50 split by the time ro16 finishes, even in OSL Exactly. People forget about the qualifiers. They just focus on the final 32/16 groups. Of course the best will rise up. But to say Kespa > ESF based on a 50/50 split of a round 32/16 is a joke and poor argument. This thinking has pissed me off and I'm now throwing my support to ESF players. I was rooting for the BW pros to do something strong but now this rampant hypocritical BW fan base has destroyed my confidence in a civil transition. Yes, a lot of Kespa pros failed to qualify. But a lot of ESF players failed to qualify too. The difference? ESF players need not practice BW. They have been practicing only SC2 and for a much longer time than Kespa pros. Furthermore, given the improvement we witnessed in WCS KR itself, it is worth noting that the qualifiers happened at a time when Kespa pros had little official SC2 practice time.
I'm not saying that Kespa is dominating. But to me it looks like there's something to be said about the performance of the Kespa players.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51479 Posts
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On August 29 2012 21:05 Coolhwip wrote: The amount of downtime in the OSL so far has been so painfull.
Its due to the fact that the games are being broadcasted on TV --> ads compulsory.
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OSL RO16 Group D Day 2 Match 2520
BeSt MC
0:00 Best spawns as red in P2 MC spawns as blue in P8 Best just a second faster than MC Undetaker cheerful!!
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This thread is a bit despressing. What we saw today was MKP dominating pretty hard rain, then throwing the game away (quite standard from MKP), and then MVP being punished for his greedy / no scout play in a bo1.
Without the kespa / esf rivalry people would be mostly saying "shit games overall today". But it goes into fanboys war :-/
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Austria80 Posts
On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote: I feel SOO bad for Moletrap... look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT
I dont feel too bad for moletrap because I personally don´t really like him as a caster. I do feel bad however, for being part of a community that seemingly has nothing else to do than spam and bitch around. Also I find it very unprofessional for an official broadcast to not have appropriate moderation.
Uh game has started
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awww i think moletrap just pronounced "pronunciation" wrong hahaha
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Moletrap doesn't seem so bad. He's not a stellar caster but he seems decent. At least decent enough not to deserve much of the hate.
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Australia937 Posts
On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote: I feel SOO bad for Moletrap... look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT
Actually a fair amount of the spam was positive, it was almost 50/50 at some points if you believe it.
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Dat Undertaker poster is funny - "Dead man" gained a lot of weight
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suddenly stork with tanned skin and curly hair
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On August 29 2012 21:07 N.geNuity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 21:05 iky43210 wrote:On August 29 2012 21:01 Dakure wrote:On August 29 2012 20:55 setzer wrote:On August 29 2012 20:51 iky43210 wrote:On August 29 2012 20:49 GreggSauce wrote:On August 29 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote: Yeah, two Bo1 TvP have now decided that KeSPA will definitly take over. Sometimes people are really stupid o.O or you're slightly more delusional. have you not followed anything thats going on? they've only been playing for months now against people who the metagame is based around http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Koreayou can cry yourself to sleep when things are proven once again when we see who advances in round of 16 And what would be a victory for ESF fans? Splitting 50/50 with KeSPA players would just be more evidence proving the elephant right. To reinforce this, 7 out of 32 players were Kespa players. That's 21.875% In the top 10, there were 3 Kespa players. That's 30.00% Kespa players were overrepresented in the top 10 given the amount of Kespa players that entered. 6 kespa players were invited. And unless claimed otherwise, I believe all kespa players that were not invited have tried to go through the open bracket, which only 1 made it through. (directed at nestled quote previous poster) it was actually pretty much proportional, as you're distorting a little bit by saying top 10. Since 12 qualified, 3/12 were kespa and 7/32 is as close to proportional as you can get. And actually its of 16 players that were qualified, only one of them is kespa player
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I'm hoping best does well, but fuck me, that Undertaker entrance makes me want MC to win lol
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On August 29 2012 21:06 Tsutchie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 21:04 phoenixfeather95 wrote: I feel SOO bad for Moletrap... look at the Twitch chat.. 90%+ "Moletrap sucks" TT whats up with that, are people just that spiteful that they go out of their way to make someone to lose their job.
well it's twich.tv chat
im not much of a moletrap fan, but damn i feel bad for having to do this all on his own
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I feel bad about this day, I hope MC revenges the eSF!
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