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Maybe, but except for the occasional drg vs mma game, those games just don't happen. It will be fucking awesome to see more games like them though :D
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I wish MC and MVP hadn't forfeited I would have loved to see them play.
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On August 17 2012 00:01 bo1b wrote:
Maybe, but except for the occasional drg vs mma game, those games just don't happen. It will be fucking awesome to see more games like them though :D
What I like with Sc2 is that it seems to have more potential for chaotic shit than BW. But so far yea, the competition in sc2 was pretty fucking dull =(
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On August 17 2012 00:03 Boonbag wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 00:01 bo1b wrote:
Maybe, but except for the occasional drg vs mma game, those games just don't happen. It will be fucking awesome to see more games like them though :D What I like with Sc2 is that it seems to have more potential for chaotic shit than BW. But so far yea, the competition in sc2 was pretty fucking dull =(
Some of the zvz's that were happening in the gstl had more chaotic shit then pretty much all of sc2s history. Life vs Freaky was fantastic.
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This is getting me excited! I haven't been a GOM subscriber since they changed the pricing this year, and i've been waiting for the BW pros to get on the scene and shake things up a bit.
The results the past week or so are finally starting to make me want to pony up the cash and start watching again.
I doubt I'm the only one
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hahahahahaha GSL players.
so who's making the conclusive thread to finally give an end to the whole elephant talk? 
User was banned for this post.
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This is the best scenario for viewers
Kespa players being strong from the get go and adapting fast will lead the gom players to be more hard working
Also now SC2 has two major korean tournaments plus a vibrant foreign scene
This is absolutely awesome for all parties involved
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On August 17 2012 00:15 orbs wrote:hahahahahaha GSL players. so who's making the conclusive thread to finally give an end to the whole elephant talk?
Do you often make a new account to be a dick?
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On August 17 2012 00:09 croupier wrote:
This is getting me excited! I haven't been a GOM subscriber since they changed the pricing this year, and i've been waiting for the BW pros to get on the scene and shake things up a bit.
The results the past week or so are finally starting to make me want to pony up the cash and start watching again.
I doubt I'm the only one
agree. before the KeSPA transition i thought the season tickets weren't worth it.
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On August 17 2012 00:17 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 00:15 orbs wrote:hahahahahaha GSL players. so who's making the conclusive thread to finally give an end to the whole elephant talk? Do you often make a new account to be a dick?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that topic needs closure... there's enough proof already.
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wtf is going on wow just wow
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On August 16 2012 21:52 legaton wrote:Reminder the best SC2 observer in the world and one of the most starcraft-knowledgeable persons in the scene already accepted that the elephants are here to stay. Reminder he sees absolutely everything, including stuff most of the caster miss. Therefore, he just knows how good Kespa players already are. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Jvct8.png)
awesome. here we have it.
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On August 16 2012 23:52 Boonbag wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 23:51 sluggaslamoo wrote:On August 16 2012 23:42 Boonbag wrote:On August 16 2012 23:40 bo1b wrote:On August 16 2012 23:37 0neder wrote:On August 16 2012 23:35 bo1b wrote:On August 16 2012 23:34 Boonbag wrote:On August 16 2012 23:32 ZeromuS wrote:On August 16 2012 23:14 Grumbels wrote:On August 16 2012 22:48 letian wrote:
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Imagine yourself playing a game against a guy who literally was a fucking machine for several years. His mechanics thinking and general mentality is miles better than yours and you are damn well aware of that. In fact his victories over several years, that inspired thousands of players and spawned so many fans, cannot be compared to your puny achievements. The only thing you have to offer is that you are better at this particular game and your know that not for long. They are kids after all, nothing to be ashamed of.
Poor Jaedong. o.o Btw, anyone who thinks that this week heralds the domination of the elephants, there is no solid reason for why KeSPA players can lose horribly for weeks on end and suddenly turn it around like this. Maybe that would be the case for one or two players, but it makes no sense that suddenly all of them start winning because they have increased in skill. In that case we would see a different pattern, where in the timespan of a few months more and more players would start losing to KeSPA players, not just like this where within a week there is complete domination. More than likely it's a few bad results that lead to insane pressure on GOM players, who then proceed to play horribly. Because Effort played so horribly against Hero just last week, don't tell me he's code S quality now. I think its nerves on the gom side, coupled with the fact that the kespa players can study and rpepare whereas the gom players can study and prepare for nothing. How they went from losing and showing terrible strats in the proleague and in the first round of WCS to 9-0 in the LB... I don't know lol Its a crazy crazy turn around that can only be described by very good match preparation something they are better at than most pro sc2 teams. BW A teamers have the fastest hands on this planet. It's no big surprise tbh. I really doubt they already have the in-team logistics to prepare for their opponents like they can in BW. So when drg comes out with 250 eapm and 500+ apm he loses because his hands aren't fast enough? Some B-teamers are just as fast, they're just not as good at translating their speed. The A-teamers are fast and smarter and wiser with that speed. I've only ever seen a replay with jaedong having around 250eapm, which is completely irrelevant to why I brought it up. Someone bandwagoning that players from kespa win because their hands are faster is just not true - there is far more to the game then how fast you can click. You actually believe that until you sit right behind one of these champions or watch their fpvods. The perfection of the execution is where the "real" speed lies. it's really hard to explain, seeing it live makes you understand it right away why they are so superior and how this is 80% of a physical superiority. edit : not to mention that all the last BW pro gaming Kings were viewed as pure machines, since the strategies most of the times, were not designed by the competitor himself, but by the whole coaching staff / team. I think the last non-machine champion was savior. Uhhh Flash? Flash is a machine, his nickname is the ultimate weapon after all.
Yeah I mean, saying the last non-machine champion was Savior and coaches make all the builds these days is a huge understatement.
Unlike a lot of other players, Flash was his own build order coach, player analyser, and player.
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As a Flash fanboy, I'm upset he isnt in on this stampede and had to be knocked out so early.
On the other hand,
Effort and JD!!!!
Hero and Reality did good too ^^
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On August 17 2012 00:46 orbs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 21:52 legaton wrote:Reminder the best SC2 observer in the world and one of the most starcraft-knowledgeable persons in the scene already accepted that the elephants are here to stay. Reminder he sees absolutely everything, including stuff most of the caster miss. Therefore, he just knows how good Kespa players already are. awesome. here we have it.
sorry but who is it?
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On August 17 2012 01:11 LighT. wrote:
As a Flash fanboy, I'm upset he isnt in on this stampede and had to be knocked out so early.
On the other hand,
Effort and JD!!!!
Hero and Reality did good too ^^
same here, kind of pissed off
i mean wtf, flash out of the picture ?
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On August 17 2012 00:55 sluggaslamoo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 23:52 Boonbag wrote:On August 16 2012 23:51 sluggaslamoo wrote:On August 16 2012 23:42 Boonbag wrote:On August 16 2012 23:40 bo1b wrote:On August 16 2012 23:37 0neder wrote:On August 16 2012 23:35 bo1b wrote:On August 16 2012 23:34 Boonbag wrote:On August 16 2012 23:32 ZeromuS wrote:On August 16 2012 23:14 Grumbels wrote:
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Poor Jaedong. o.o
Btw, anyone who thinks that this week heralds the domination of the elephants, there is no solid reason for why KeSPA players can lose horribly for weeks on end and suddenly turn it around like this. Maybe that would be the case for one or two players, but it makes no sense that suddenly all of them start winning because they have increased in skill. In that case we would see a different pattern, where in the timespan of a few months more and more players would start losing to KeSPA players, not just like this where within a week there is complete domination.
More than likely it's a few bad results that lead to insane pressure on GOM players, who then proceed to play horribly. Because Effort played so horribly against Hero just last week, don't tell me he's code S quality now. I think its nerves on the gom side, coupled with the fact that the kespa players can study and rpepare whereas the gom players can study and prepare for nothing. How they went from losing and showing terrible strats in the proleague and in the first round of WCS to 9-0 in the LB... I don't know lol Its a crazy crazy turn around that can only be described by very good match preparation something they are better at than most pro sc2 teams. BW A teamers have the fastest hands on this planet. It's no big surprise tbh. I really doubt they already have the in-team logistics to prepare for their opponents like they can in BW. So when drg comes out with 250 eapm and 500+ apm he loses because his hands aren't fast enough? Some B-teamers are just as fast, they're just not as good at translating their speed. The A-teamers are fast and smarter and wiser with that speed. I've only ever seen a replay with jaedong having around 250eapm, which is completely irrelevant to why I brought it up. Someone bandwagoning that players from kespa win because their hands are faster is just not true - there is far more to the game then how fast you can click. You actually believe that until you sit right behind one of these champions or watch their fpvods. The perfection of the execution is where the "real" speed lies. it's really hard to explain, seeing it live makes you understand it right away why they are so superior and how this is 80% of a physical superiority. edit : not to mention that all the last BW pro gaming Kings were viewed as pure machines, since the strategies most of the times, were not designed by the competitor himself, but by the whole coaching staff / team. I think the last non-machine champion was savior. Uhhh Flash? Flash is a machine, his nickname is the ultimate weapon after all. Yeah I mean, saying the last non-machine champion was Savior and coaches make all the builds these days is a huge understatement. Unlike a lot of other players, Flash was his own build order coach, player analyser, and player.
Flash doesnt need strategy coaches, he 14ccs every game in all match ups.
edit : didnt flash say in his medic iview with T girl that he didn't have to work anymore for a living ? Maybe hell stop pro gaming all together soon enough?
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On August 16 2012 21:29 regizer239 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 21:28 mcmartini wrote:
Khaldor during qualifiers was saying how bad Kespa players were and how they would never dominate....such a change of tune :/ Well, you gotta see to believe
I never said that. I said they are not there yet as they didnt have enough time full time in SC2. But thanks to idiots like you to spread such bullshit. How about cleaning your ears and starting to actually listen?
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On August 17 2012 01:38 Khaldor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 21:29 regizer239 wrote:On August 16 2012 21:28 mcmartini wrote:
Khaldor during qualifiers was saying how bad Kespa players were and how they would never dominate....such a change of tune :/ Well, you gotta see to believe I never said that. I said they are not there yet as they didnt have enough time full time in SC2. But thanks to idiots like you to spread such bullshit. How about cleaning your ears and starting to actually listen?
Let your anger flow young apprentice.
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