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Gubbernecco
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany170 Posts
August 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2401
damn i thought artosis will give nestea american candy now
gcruz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
August 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2402
that was actually a good interview. all right i'll suspend my anger.
EmmeCY
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia417 Posts
August 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2403
mvp and nestea!!! yay!
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
August 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2404
feast vs violez incoming... \o/
starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
August 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2405
When does tastosis get on?
Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
August 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2406
Omg just got back from work and holy crap group A :D Nerchio lost to all foreigners and then won against all koreans in his group ? :D WTF. Can someone tell me how overall Nerchio looked in those games? Pretty plz Im big fan ;o.
Also is MVP back ;O And get better host next time IEM, even Carmac was less akward sometimes xddd
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2407
On August 17 2012 00:16 Zwerver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:42 pallad wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:39 Slaytilost wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:36 Kaitokid wrote:
expected Tarson to give MVP a bottle of 100% alcohol but this is ok too I guess

Polish candy is prolly just wodka in disguise. Its what they feed their kids anyway.


Say what fool ? And in NL you feed kids with marihuana ?

Joke is on you, marihuana is really healthy. You don't even get high when you don't heat it up, only if heaten right in animal fat (or smoked obv.).


I heard that even alcohol is worse than Marihuana, is this right?
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2408
On August 16 2012 23:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:52 sVnteen wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:45 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:44 Orek wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:43 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:41 Orek wrote:
If even pro Zergs don't micro, then Raven works. Why bother thinking about 10 years from now when Zerg starts microing and theorycraft that Raven is bad? Just use them and win. Zerg can split? Sure, as if you cannot split raven...

Pro Zergs eventually learnt to micro against Vortex Archons, even if they still painfully fail at times. Why wouldn't the same thing occur for Ravens? Not to mention that getting a Raven fleet is way harder than building a Mothership.


Let's complain when that finally happens.

Actually it already happens when the Zerg player does not go into Zombie mode.

well protoss players back then said " zerg can just micro and one day mothership vortex will be useless and pvz will be so imba *cry*cry*"
now terrans say "zergs might eventually be THAT good at spreading their air units that HSM won't be careful anymore"

and what did protosses do?
they continued using vortexes and it still worked even if they didnt kill 100% of the broods anymore
terrans just need to do it so they at least force the zerg to micro and it will still be impossible to minimize the splash enough that HSM would be useless

did you ever try to micro corrupters and broodlords

I tried that back when i still played terran and wondered why zergs always mess up their BL/corruptor spread vs vortex so badly

it's fricking impossible to spread them ans still have them attack at the same time
It's not a problem to spread them and have them sit idle in the back but that is not what you want to happen either

Protoss keep resorting to Vortex it because it is pretty much the only potential way to beat a good Inf/BL player in an engagement. The other is mass upgraded air which is even tougher to pull off.

The only other reliable way I've seen lategame PvZ be played is HerO's warp prism play, which incidentally I'd love to see a bit more, not sure why other people don't exploit the immobility of the composition more a la Terrans.


what the hell dude

mothership is very reliable or people woudln't use it

so are HSM's: they will always do damage or at least force the zerg to spread out very very very well which will make the air army very easy for vikings to kill

I don't get what your problem is
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2409
On August 17 2012 00:14 red4ce wrote:
MVP and Nestea bossing it up like the old days.


Yeah it feels like the 2nd quarter of 2011 hahaha.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
gcruz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2410
On August 17 2012 00:18 Gubbernecco wrote:
damn i thought artosis will give nestea american candy now


A Big Mac. oohhh that sounds good.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2411
On August 17 2012 00:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:14 BBQKP wrote:
As much as Violet has been praised, how is it possible that people dont notice burrowed Infestors at this level of play? It's not like you need Overseers to see them, you just need overseers to be able to attack them.

You can spot infestors that are burrowed? Really? At least on the settigns I play on this isn't possible, may need to upgrade my setup!

Burrowed Infestors leave a thin dark trail while moving. It's really hard to discern. On desert maps it would be easier to see I think.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2412
Mvp in the background ahhaa :-D
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2413
Hopefully Nestea can keep himself nice and rested and play more series without exhaustion, because when he plays like that. <3 Unf.

I'm still anticipating Mvp/MC to take the whole tournament, though.
Long live the King of Wings
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 16 2012 15:19 GMT
#2414
On August 17 2012 00:16 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:14 BBQKP wrote:
As much as Violet has been praised, how is it possible that people dont notice burrowed Infestors at this level of play? It's not like you need Overseers to see them, you just need overseers to be able to attack them.

It's way harder to see than cloaked units. On creep I don't even know if you can discern it.

You can, but it's incredibly hard since the creep is actually already moving. When I see people catching burrowed units on creep, I start believing in super powers.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#2415
nerchio has been beasting it up recently
gcruz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
August 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#2416
So I just got a midol commercial for pain with having a period... I feel like they should target their ads more effectively.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
August 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#2417
On August 17 2012 00:19 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 00:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 17 2012 00:14 BBQKP wrote:
As much as Violet has been praised, how is it possible that people dont notice burrowed Infestors at this level of play? It's not like you need Overseers to see them, you just need overseers to be able to attack them.

You can spot infestors that are burrowed? Really? At least on the settigns I play on this isn't possible, may need to upgrade my setup!

Burrowed Infestors leave a thin dark trail while moving. It's really hard to discern. On desert maps it would be easier to see I think.


I think I've probably spotted and scanned burrowed infestors like twice ever.

Is there anyone who actually manages to do it semi reliably? o_O
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
August 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#2418
On August 17 2012 00:19 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:52 sVnteen wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:45 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:44 Orek wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:43 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:41 Orek wrote:
If even pro Zergs don't micro, then Raven works. Why bother thinking about 10 years from now when Zerg starts microing and theorycraft that Raven is bad? Just use them and win. Zerg can split? Sure, as if you cannot split raven...

Pro Zergs eventually learnt to micro against Vortex Archons, even if they still painfully fail at times. Why wouldn't the same thing occur for Ravens? Not to mention that getting a Raven fleet is way harder than building a Mothership.


Let's complain when that finally happens.

Actually it already happens when the Zerg player does not go into Zombie mode.

well protoss players back then said " zerg can just micro and one day mothership vortex will be useless and pvz will be so imba *cry*cry*"
now terrans say "zergs might eventually be THAT good at spreading their air units that HSM won't be careful anymore"

and what did protosses do?
they continued using vortexes and it still worked even if they didnt kill 100% of the broods anymore
terrans just need to do it so they at least force the zerg to micro and it will still be impossible to minimize the splash enough that HSM would be useless

did you ever try to micro corrupters and broodlords

I tried that back when i still played terran and wondered why zergs always mess up their BL/corruptor spread vs vortex so badly

it's fricking impossible to spread them ans still have them attack at the same time
It's not a problem to spread them and have them sit idle in the back but that is not what you want to happen either

Protoss keep resorting to Vortex it because it is pretty much the only potential way to beat a good Inf/BL player in an engagement. The other is mass upgraded air which is even tougher to pull off.

The only other reliable way I've seen lategame PvZ be played is HerO's warp prism play, which incidentally I'd love to see a bit more, not sure why other people don't exploit the immobility of the composition more a la Terrans.


what the hell dude

mothership is very reliable or people woudln't use it

so are HSM's: they will always do damage or at least force the zerg to spread out very very very well which will make the air army very easy for vikings to kill

I don't get what your problem is

What problem? I don't like how it functions, I didn't ever say it can't work, or can't regularly work, but I just don't like throwing all my eggs in one basket, especially if it relies on my opponent making an error to actually work.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
rckY
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
August 16 2012 15:20 GMT
#2419
Does anyone know the song playing right now?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
August 16 2012 15:21 GMT
#2420
Sorry Belgium!
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