It's like 10x harder to see moving burrowed units than cloaked units (and it only shows while they are moving), and people have less practice spotting them as it much less common than dt/banshee/obs

This is it.
I don't know what graphic setting each player uses, but some settings are harder to spot as well.

danl9rm

United States3111 Posts

August 16 2012 15:21 GMT

#2429

On August 16 2012 23:49 Lysanias wrote:

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... but you have TEAM USA !

The eagle, awful one liners and hot dogs. I know i'm forgetting tons.

Reminds me of my pet bald eagle when I was a kid. His spirit broke when we caged him after he flew back 2 different neighbor's dogs. You think your cat dropping a mouse on the doorstep was bad.

TheDwf

France19747 Posts

August 16 2012 15:22 GMT

#2430

On August 17 2012 00:20 Asha` wrote:

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I think I've probably spotted and scanned burrowed infestors like twice ever.

Is there anyone who actually manages to do it semi reliably? o_O

I don't think so. Perhaps on Condemned Ridge as the terrain is quite clear, but otherwise...

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

August 16 2012 15:22 GMT

#2431

On August 17 2012 00:21 greatZERG wrote:
Is there some reason they aren't casting any of PiG's games? =/

GLHF just cast him getting crushed by MVP

WombaT

Northern Ireland26152 Posts

August 16 2012 15:22 GMT

#2432

On August 17 2012 00:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
haven't seen this Feast fellow in awhile, I remember him being somewhat good before. Might be a decent series.

Hopefully Grubby can pop up behind him and give him a poke a la JYP. Transfer some of those powers

syltz

Sweden187 Posts

August 16 2012 15:22 GMT

#2433

Well you can't say that he's not trying even though Feast is from belgium.

Gubbernecco

Germany170 Posts

August 16 2012 15:22 GMT

#2434

On August 17 2012 00:21 Eshra wrote:
" Mon ami français "... Feast is from Belgium.

french is an official language in belgium, so its not that wrong

Swiv

Germany3674 Posts

August 16 2012 15:22 GMT

#2435

quick we need wolf for a hair comment on feast

LimitSEA

Australia9580 Posts

August 16 2012 15:22 GMT

#2436

Where's Wolf when you need him? I need an in depth analysis of that hair.

sVnteen

Germany2238 Posts

August 16 2012 15:23 GMT

#2437

On August 17 2012 00:20 Wombat_NI wrote:

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On August 17 2012 00:19 sVnteen wrote:

On August 16 2012 23:55 Wombat_NI wrote:

On August 16 2012 23:52 sVnteen wrote:

On August 16 2012 23:45 TheDwf wrote:

On August 16 2012 23:44 Orek wrote:

On August 16 2012 23:43 TheDwf wrote:

On August 16 2012 23:41 Orek wrote:
If even pro Zergs don't micro, then Raven works. Why bother thinking about 10 years from now when Zerg starts microing and theorycraft that Raven is bad? Just use them and win. Zerg can split? Sure, as if you cannot split raven...

Pro Zergs eventually learnt to micro against Vortex Archons, even if they still painfully fail at times. Why wouldn't the same thing occur for Ravens? Not to mention that getting a Raven fleet is way harder than building a Mothership.

Let's complain when that finally happens.

Actually it already happens when the Zerg player does not go into Zombie mode.

well protoss players back then said " zerg can just micro and one day mothership vortex will be useless and pvz will be so imba *cry*cry*"
now terrans say "zergs might eventually be THAT good at spreading their air units that HSM won't be careful anymore"

and what did protosses do?
they continued using vortexes and it still worked even if they didnt kill 100% of the broods anymore
terrans just need to do it so they at least force the zerg to micro and it will still be impossible to minimize the splash enough that HSM would be useless

did you ever try to micro corrupters and broodlords

I tried that back when i still played terran and wondered why zergs always mess up their BL/corruptor spread vs vortex so badly

it's fricking impossible to spread them ans still have them attack at the same time
It's not a problem to spread them and have them sit idle in the back but that is not what you want to happen either

Protoss keep resorting to Vortex it because it is pretty much the only potential way to beat a good Inf/BL player in an engagement. The other is mass upgraded air which is even tougher to pull off.

The only other reliable way I've seen lategame PvZ be played is HerO's warp prism play, which incidentally I'd love to see a bit more, not sure why other people don't exploit the immobility of the composition more a la Terrans.

what the hell dude

mothership is very reliable or people woudln't use it

so are HSM's: they will always do damage or at least force the zerg to spread out very very very well which will make the air army very easy for vikings to kill

I don't get what your problem is

What problem? I don't like how it functions, I didn't ever say it can't work, or can't regularly work, but I just don't like throwing all my eggs in one basket, especially if it relies on my opponent making an error to actually work.

it doesnt rely on an error
it forces the zerg to split and that makes the air army way weaker because the vikings can just come in from one side and kill it off
if the zerg is VERY VERY VERY well spread out and you don't think HSM will do damage then just use mass PDD and watch the zerg air vanish noneteless