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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#2241
Oh Tarson How I miss your BW TvP <3
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
August 16 2012 14:38 GMT
#2242
On August 16 2012 23:36 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:33 Embir wrote:
I like those ignorant people who talk about Raven being is good, not noticing that map played the most important part in outcome of this game.

And the fact that MVP picked Nestea apart with drops, because Nestea suddenly forgot how to defend.


MVP's drops were what allowed him to transition while not being attacked tho.

Honestly I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. Ravens are pretty good but they won't always be _THIS_ good, and Metropolis allowed him to get a few more out than he normally would have before Nestea pushed.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2243
On August 16 2012 23:37 -_- wrote:
im tellin ya: ravens =s carriers. for YEARS tosses say carriers are useless. i don't blame them, i was with them. but carriers aren't. and ravens aren't. and I don't blame terran for thinking they are, but they're not!

Sure, they can be good. If the zerg steps back and gives you 20mins to get them ready. (Or forgets how to defend drops for 20 mins)
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2244
On August 16 2012 23:37 Fenrax wrote:
I hope you guys know that by polish right Tarson and MvP are married now.


Possible cultural lesson here - elaborate!!
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2245
Will there be VODs for this event?
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2246
On August 16 2012 23:38 Zwerver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:33 EmilA wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:32 Zwerver wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:27 Scrubwave wrote:
It'd be hilarious to see a bunch of ravens get chain fungaled and lose MVP thousands of gas as a result, all with 0 hsms fired.


You can kill infestors with ravens, you even have detecton. Please think before you type.


Fungal has considerably longer range

I was not talking about HSM, you have more then one ability.

Yeah, Autoturrets are really good at killing infestors.
fakgfdgfdh
Profile Joined May 2012
79 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2247
[QUOTE]On August 16 2012 21:59 EpeenKingPrime wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 16 2012 21:52 Causality~ wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 16 2012 21:50 Tobblish wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 16 2012 21:49 Ruscour wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 16 2012 21:44 EpeenKingPrime wrote:
I for a fact love League of Legends. Sad the host encourages hate towards a great moba game -_-[/QUOTE]
It's cartoony and mechanically simple, thus most StarCraft fans are going to look down on it, expecting anything else is silly.[/QUOTE]

It's like BW looking down on SC2 basically.

Haha, owned.
[/QUOTE]
I could go into a huge argument with you guys about why you are so wrong but I figure it's not worth it because you're probably a bunch of really narrow-minded immature guys.[/QUOTE]
LOL
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2248
On August 16 2012 23:37 Fenrax wrote:
I hope you guys know that by polish right Tarson and MvP are married now.


Don't tell MVP yet, he will find out tonight.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2249
On August 16 2012 23:37 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:34 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:33 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:32 Zwerver wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:27 Scrubwave wrote:
It'd be hilarious to see a bunch of ravens get chain fungaled and lose MVP thousands of gas as a result, all with 0 hsms fired.


You can kill infestors with ravens

In my world HSM is range 6 while Fungal is 9, what about yours?


And Tanks have Range 13.

Its never that simple, its all about control.

You're right, but Nestea doesn't seem to know that, having everything clumped up and probably on a-move.
How about some control and micro, pro zergs?


Well, Nestea's mechanics have really slipped from what they used to be.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2250
ROFL tarson
日本語が上手ですね
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13427 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2251
On August 16 2012 23:36 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:34 ZeromuS wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:33 TheDwf wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:32 Zwerver wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:27 Scrubwave wrote:
It'd be hilarious to see a bunch of ravens get chain fungaled and lose MVP thousands of gas as a result, all with 0 hsms fired.


You can kill infestors with ravens

In my world HSM is range 6 while Fungal is 9, what about yours?


And Tanks have Range 13.

Its never that simple, its all about control.

Except Tanks auto-attack Broodlings slowly killing your own army?


And broodlords have a range of 9.5 for launching broodlings.

No ground army other thank tanks meant that Terran didnt have broodlings for the tanks to shoot. coupled with good control the tanks can be focused on the infestors zoning them out and if you get the HSM off you do very very well if not win.

Unlike all the other AoE spells in the game, the damage on seeker missiles does indeed STACK.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2252
On August 16 2012 23:33 Embir wrote:
I like those ignorant people who talk about Raven being is good, not noticing that map played the most important part in outcome of this game.


This. For this map, there is high ground on both sides and ravens are much safer vs fungals compare to other maps. You also have plug planetaries and tanks in the middle. If you noticed, Nestea was trying to get fungals off but no way for his infestors to get close due to the ground firepower from MVP's siege position. MVP actually couldn't move out with his comp because it was dependent on the plantaries and tank position. That is why he was switching to BC/ravens which can deal much better with fungals. The ravens just stays back with point defense and the BCs will shred the corrupters. Zerg can fungal the BCs but won't do much.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2253
On August 16 2012 23:37 SmoKim wrote:
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On August 16 2012 23:37 Fenrax wrote:
I hope you guys know that by polish right Tarson and MvP are married now.


And they will have many beautiful marines together

And they will all have +1.
Glorious SEA doto
Slaytilost
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands968 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2254
On August 16 2012 23:36 Kaitokid wrote:
expected Tarson to give MVP a bottle of 100% alcohol but this is ok too I guess

Polish candy is prolly just wodka in disguise. Its what they feed their kids anyway.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 16 2012 14:39 GMT
#2255
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#2256
On August 16 2012 23:39 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:37 -_- wrote:
im tellin ya: ravens =s carriers. for YEARS tosses say carriers are useless. i don't blame them, i was with them. but carriers aren't. and ravens aren't. and I don't blame terran for thinking they are, but they're not!

Sure, they can be good. If the zerg steps back and gives you 20mins to get them ready. (Or forgets how to defend drops for 20 mins)

Exactly, it's like saying that when 100 supply down you can just sit there and hope your opponent does nothing, and still win as a viable strategy. Targa/Grubby is still in my brain, tried to drink away the memory of it but it's returned today
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Azula.
Profile Joined August 2012
4 Posts
August 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#2257
meanwhile coLqxc's blog "why ravens sucks", rank 1 on reddit
You were never even a player
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#2258
On August 16 2012 23:37 -_- wrote:
im tellin ya: ravens =s carriers. for YEARS tosses say carriers are useless. i don't blame them, i was with them. but carriers aren't. and ravens aren't. and I don't blame terran for thinking they are, but they're not!


Carriers are good units?
DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
August 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#2259
On August 16 2012 23:38 Zwerver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 23:33 EmilA wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:32 Zwerver wrote:
On August 16 2012 23:27 Scrubwave wrote:
It'd be hilarious to see a bunch of ravens get chain fungaled and lose MVP thousands of gas as a result, all with 0 hsms fired.


You can kill infestors with ravens, you even have detecton. Please think before you type.


Fungal has considerably longer range

I was not talking about HSM, you have more then one ability.


Obviously..cast pdd to stop fungals then auto turret the shit outta them amirite
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 16 2012 14:40 GMT
#2260
holy shit this group is stack just noticed.
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