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Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1121
On August 14 2012 06:19 Gosi wrote:
Foreigner map awarness: have vision of dropship for like 2 seconds - don't react.

:XD

We're too spoiled by the reactions of Kespa pros these days :p
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1122
On August 14 2012 06:18 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:14 Qikz wrote:
No mech? Bah! I'm going to make some tea.

Why do people like Mech in TvZ? I really enjoy watching mech in TvT, especially against other styles but I really don't think it's nearly as dynamic and good to watch as good Bio-based TvZ

I do appreciate how difficult it is to do mind!

I play mech in all my matchups so getting to actually watch someone better than me going mech is great. It's also incredibly rare as pros don't want to experiment with Mech in TvP and most Korean terrans prefer bio in TvZ. It'd just be nice to see for a change as I've seen full bio/marine tank be played sooo much in this matchup over the years.


But mech is completely uneventful in TvZ. Three things happen in a mech TvZ:

1. Hellion runby either wins game or is denied.
2. Terran will live until his timing or die.
3. Terran will do timing push, wins game or dies.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1123
if he would actualy control his army and lead with the ultras he would have lost like nothing =/.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1124
This looks like my TvZs! Fun fun.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1125
On August 14 2012 06:20 Entropic wrote:
What a boring style JohnnyRecco plays... just turtle straight up to hive tech.,


Oh shit, not this again -_-
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1126
Basically, if you ZvT against Major, just build drop defense and win.
Never make a hydralisk.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1127
Robo Apollo is doing his part, now do yours. Enrollment guarentees citizenship!

Do you want to know more?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26282 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1128
On August 14 2012 06:18 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:14 Qikz wrote:
No mech? Bah! I'm going to make some tea.

Why do people like Mech in TvZ? I really enjoy watching mech in TvT, especially against other styles but I really don't think it's nearly as dynamic and good to watch as good Bio-based TvZ

I do appreciate how difficult it is to do mind!

I play mech in all my matchups so getting to actually watch someone better than me going mech is great. It's also incredibly rare as pros don't want to experiment with Mech in TvP and most Korean terrans prefer bio in TvZ. It'd just be nice to see for a change as I've seen full bio/marine tank be played sooo much in this matchup over the years.

Divergence in styles is always good. Come on Major!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#1129
On August 14 2012 06:20 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:18 Kurumi wrote:
What, Ultras again? hahaha that's too many ultras for one day

Not all Zergs use Ultralisks in ZvT, but they're quite common really. I know lots of Zergs who always start with Ultralisks as their primary Hive tech choice.

We would agree on Hydralisk though, wouldn't we?
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WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
August 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#1130
Goddamn JohnnyRecco almost 5k banked just remax like crazy times dude!
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#1131
Build a crapton of static defenses already Recco, with that amount of Mins :/
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#1132
On August 14 2012 06:20 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:16 Vaftrudner wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:06 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.

Too bad.

I don't understand this mentality.

I have tried many times to understand.... if you don't think that way, don't try to understand it... you will only get frustrated, trust me.

It's quite easy actually. Some people, including me, get an extra kick from a dramatic storyline along with the play. TSL, by design, pits foreigners against Koreans. It's how the qualification system is built, and it's part of the hype. It's what makes TSL unique among many other tournaments. We want to see the scrappy, underdog foreigner show a peak of brilliance in a prestigious tournament. It's the age old underdog story. If all you want is to see good play, of course you'll be fine with Koreans dominating. It's the way of things. And that's just fine, but try to understand the other perspective. There are so many tournaments, you get a bid jaded and want something extra. There are also so many foreigners with great personalities that you get hooked by if you're involved in the foreigner scene, which this community is in large part focused on.

A fully Korean TSL will have a ton of great games, but it will just be another tournament. That's nothing to scoff at, but it could be more.


I do not think that there is anything wrong with feeling or thinking like that. But seeing LR threads get clogged up with angry rants about 'this tournament is dead to me', 'fuck this tournament' and 'all Koreans are the same, no personality' whenever it happens is just so tiresome. There is no reason to post stuff that is just sour and only be a rant.

This is the Internet, people feel bizarrely entitled and overreact to everything I'm not defending that kind of crap, I'm just explaining the other perspective to those who don't seem to understand it. I think it's valid. Being a whiny bitch is never valid.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
August 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#1133
On August 14 2012 06:06 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.

Too bad.

I don't understand this mentality.

I have tried many times to understand.... if you don't think that way, don't try to understand it... you will only get frustrated, trust me.



That's easy to understand. You don't watch a tournament ONLY for the games that are in it. You watch a tournament because of the story it tells you, because you like to see rivalties and so on.


I know the best player advances, but it's way more easy to cheer for a player that you know, a player who stream, a player who try and fail, that for a player which has way less personality. I watch a lot, and i really mean it, A LOT of koreans events. I watch every single GSL match, i have today's matches from WCS to watch and that's it. But i watched tsl because it's fun to see foreigner perform.

I don't see the point now, since there is no upset, the production is really bad, and except for tonights, the caster are doing a pretty bad job so far. That's why i won't watch TSL. Maybe the final, i don't know yet.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#1134
On August 14 2012 06:21 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:20 TheDwf wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:18 Kurumi wrote:
What, Ultras again? hahaha that's too many ultras for one day

Not all Zergs use Ultralisks in ZvT, but they're quite common really. I know lots of Zergs who always start with Ultralisks as their primary Hive tech choice.

We would agree on Hydralisk though, wouldn't we?


Even Life stopped using them =(
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
August 13 2012 21:22 GMT
#1135
Just received my TSL4 t-shirt. Feels good! : D
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 13 2012 21:23 GMT
#1136
MajOr needs a bigger map to exploit JR lacks of multitasking and 1a syndrom ><
Zest fanboy.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 13 2012 21:23 GMT
#1137
On August 14 2012 06:21 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:20 Entropic wrote:
What a boring style JohnnyRecco plays... just turtle straight up to hive tech.,


Oh shit, not this again -_-


It's not like zerg can do anything else either rofl.
When I think of something else, something will go here
reki-
Profile Joined July 2008
Netherlands327 Posts
August 13 2012 21:23 GMT
#1138
On August 14 2012 06:21 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:20 Entropic wrote:
What a boring style JohnnyRecco plays... just turtle straight up to hive tech.,


Oh shit, not this again -_-



Then lose because you didn't make broodlords xd
>BD
xPabt
Profile Joined February 2012
226 Posts
August 13 2012 21:23 GMT
#1139
Jonny recco is just amoving...
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
August 13 2012 21:23 GMT
#1140
On August 14 2012 06:22 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Build a crapton of static defenses already Recco, with that amount of Mins :/

No reason not to...
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