EPTOn August 09 2012 21:46 Herry wrote:
No more games what do i do now
No more games what do i do now
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Fody03
Italy310 Posts
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
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An2quamaraN
Poland379 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:46 Herry wrote: No more games what do i do now Go play SC as zerg and do this strat what Leenock did which won't work even in silver league. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:45 Toadvine wrote: All of you "WHY NOT BUILD ZEALOT SO GREEDY" guys are completely ignorant. :/ No. If you don't know what your opponent is doing, you get a zealot. Not doing so is greedy and MC got punished for it. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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RandomRice
United States303 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:45 Toadvine wrote: All of you "WHY NOT BUILD ZEALOT SO GREEDY" guys are completely ignorant. :/ He could have simply completed his wall with a pylon and been fine. He lost because it didn't even occur to him that what Leenock did was even possible. It's a one shot cheese that will never work again. I agree. Its pretty standard for protoss players to skip zealot because if you scout gasless 3 hatch this is like the only thing that you could lose to until the 7-8 minute mark. The beauty is even if he makes a zealot you usually put it out on the map for map control vs the zerg's 2-6 lings and the zerglings can just run out of the zealots vision/watchtower vision. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:48 An2quamaraN wrote: Go play SC as zerg and do this strat what Leenock did which won't work even in silver league. Some strats only work in high lvl play. Like gas cancels | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:45 Toadvine wrote: All of you "WHY NOT BUILD ZEALOT SO GREEDY" guys are completely ignorant. :/ He could have simply completed his wall with a pylon and been fine. He lost because it didn't even occur to him that what Leenock did was even possible. It's a one shot cheese that will never work again. well this build is out there for a couple of weeks already, so that everyone should be aware of it. Stangely it still works. We will probably see it every now and then from zergs in the future against people that don't scout properly. | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:48 DarkLordOlli wrote: No. If you don't know what your opponent is doing, you get a zealot. Not doing so is greedy and MC got punished for it. but he DID know what he was doing, he scouted 3 base no gas.... Leenock went for something extremely unconventional. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:46 Pipeline wrote: Dont argue that you can skip the first zealot. Losing a Bo3 because of 100 minerals and delaying a probe by 5-8 seconds can never be justified. You can skip it 100% safely against a no-gas opening. MC could have easily defended if he had just scouted a bit more. As a pro player, you always want to make that kind of trade. Whether you make the Zealot in a PvZ is not a question of greed/safety. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
Man, Seed is winning me over though. It's okay, MC! You can come back! | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:48 opterown wrote: i got WR2 Day 1 up :D How do you know which matches it is? :o was looking at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea and just assumed the top 4 groups would play first. | ||
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RandomRice
United States303 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:49 FeyFey wrote: a good zerg won't let you scout this =)well this build is out there for a couple of weeks already, so that everyone should be aware of it. Stangely it still works. We will probably see it every now and then from zergs in the future against people that don't scout properly. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:50 DrPandaPhD wrote: How do you know which matches it is? :o was looking at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea and just assumed the top 4 groups would play first. it was on stream they ones that they would show :D | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:50 Toadvine wrote: You can skip it 100% safely against a no-gas opening. MC could have easily defended if he had just scouted a bit more. As a pro player, you always want to make that kind of trade. Whether you make the Zealot in a PvZ is not a question of greed/safety. Looking at the game with a clear head now, I think MC should have been more active as well with his scouting. He had nothing on the Xelnaga towers (which is also a result of not having any units to put in there). Well-played by the octopus though. Give him credit where it is due.  | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:50 snafoo wrote: but he DID know what he was doing, he scouted 3 base no gas.... Leenock went for something extremely unconventional. Unconventional but possible. I still think it's greedy to ever skip a zealot vs 3 hatch, dunno. I personally like to be prepared against anything that's possible. People have been canceling hatches on me a few times. | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:51 RandomRice wrote: a good zerg won't let you scout this =) Pretty sure MC could've seen more than 6 lings if he just moved out with a probe. That's enough to prompt a full wall-off, or at least it should be. | ||
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SeriouR
Spain622 Posts
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
On August 09 2012 21:43 MCDayC wrote: wait what, its over already!?!! wtf I went for some yogurt and its already done. yeah wth, I just scratched my eye for few seconds and the game was over? W00t happened guys?! | ||
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