• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:39
CET 19:39
KST 03:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled7Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains12Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18BSL Season 224
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Buy Weed In Sydney telegram @greenplug420 Buy THC Vape Carts In Dubai telegram @greenplug420 BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) https://www.facebook.com/BubaSocks.Official/ [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO WardiTV Team League Season 10 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4527 users

[WCS KR] WR1 D4 - Page 59

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 81 Next
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1161
How "lucky" will MC be this time?
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1162
If MC had been able to warp in I don't know how Leenock could have won.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1163
On August 09 2012 21:01 Uni1987 wrote:
Did they just lower stream quality on blizz stream?


I think they did... just when I was posting about the stream it suddenly felt worse (was also refreshing so I wasn't sure).
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1164
On August 09 2012 20:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:56 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:53 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:51 raga4ka wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:45 babysimba wrote:
lol 5 unit control groups by Roro. I guess that sets a new standard for zerg micro >.>


It was fucking standart in BW , and SC2 really has ruined some of the great BW zergs with this unlimited unit selection , if only they play SC2 like they played BW ;( .

There is a reason for that, your 40 zerglings can literally die in 2 seconds. Try doing cool 5 group tactics with that and no swarm :p

The delay on army movements 5 group vs 1 group is huge in a game which is faster than BW in game speed.


Roro just did that my friend.He did cool 5 group tactics with the swarm.
5 control groups give you more control over your units but it is tough to manage.


Not if you're a Brood War pro.

5 control groups shouldn't be tough to manage at all.


I use 4 army control groups as Terran, only 2 for buildings though. I think this is mostly a thing of personal preference. If you are fast with the mouse you just need one control group for the army to move everything together and split off several squads and units with the mouse instead of using a shortcut. (MMA uses one for his army I think and does everything else with the mouse).

I guess people need to be better overall with their control, not necessarily with 5 control groupts
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 09 2012 12:04 GMT
#1165
No, you guys don't get what i mean. Move command banelings clump up automatically, if you box a certain area and move command them to spread them out manually again, the lings that are in that area also get move commanded which is not ideal.
This is why korean zergs don't even bother move commanding banelings against spread army. Just get a large surface and blast everything in, even if banelings hit tanks it's still reliable.

and 5 control groups is not normal even in BW -_-. Progamers rely primarily on mouse control for micro. JD used only 3 control grps for units. Flash used 2 control grps in MLG like most code s terrans do until vikings are out.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2012 12:04 GMT
#1166
On August 09 2012 21:03 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:01 Uni1987 wrote:
Did they just lower stream quality on blizz stream?


I think they did... just when I was posting about the stream it suddenly felt worse (was also refreshing so I wasn't sure).

Looks the same to me. Just that it doesn't look good whenever camera is moving or moved to a new location.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 09 2012 12:04 GMT
#1167
Goddamn their codec blows big time when the screen is in motion >_<
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 09 2012 12:05 GMT
#1168
On August 09 2012 21:04 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Goddamn their codec blows big time when the screen is in motion >_<


hahah yeah my stream just took terrible, terrible damage
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
August 09 2012 12:05 GMT
#1169
On August 09 2012 21:03 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:01 Uni1987 wrote:
Did they just lower stream quality on blizz stream?


I think they did... just when I was posting about the stream it suddenly felt worse (was also refreshing so I wasn't sure).

yea they did..
..
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 09 2012 12:05 GMT
#1170
both are so good right now, great match
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#1171
Come on Nydus! Use it!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#1172
On August 09 2012 21:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:01 Squeegy wrote:
On August 09 2012 21:00 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:58 Squeegy wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:56 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:53 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:51 raga4ka wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:45 babysimba wrote:
lol 5 unit control groups by Roro. I guess that sets a new standard for zerg micro >.>


It was fucking standart in BW , and SC2 really has ruined some of the great BW zergs with this unlimited unit selection , if only they play SC2 like they played BW ;( .

There is a reason for that, your 40 zerglings can literally die in 2 seconds. Try doing cool 5 group tactics with that and no swarm :p

The delay on army movements 5 group vs 1 group is huge in a game which is faster than BW in game speed.


Roro just did that my friend.He did cool 5 group tactics with the swarm.
5 control groups give you more control over your units but it is tough to manage.


There is no swarm in SC2.


Yes there is.


Oh?


I edited ~_~

I didn't understand it the right way ^^

Going back to the beginning of discussion i may have worded my argument bad. Multiple control groups HELP with drop defense but they are NOT essensital in unit movement and surround tactic and when you insist to have split up forces you have small delay in army movements (compare 1+2+3+4+5 vs 1, no matter how fast you are you are slower than gold leaguer).

However!

If Roro used something like 1 - every unit, 2- spellcaster 3,4,5 - zergling groups and used 3,4,5 for drop dealing and 1 as mass re rally and only used 1-2 for whole army movements it would be cool and smart.

But i need to watch vod :p
Stork[gm]
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#1173
Man, I love MC forcefields.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1174
Sentry remains MC's trademark unit for sure =P
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1175
Leenock falling behind on ups big time
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1176
Leenock pretty late with his Hive and upgrades, MC's gonna have a really strong timing soon.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1177
On August 09 2012 21:05 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:04 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Goddamn their codec blows big time when the screen is in motion >_<


hahah yeah my stream just took terrible, terrible damage


Haha so true, i normaly dont complain about PQ but the 480p is pretty poor in quality
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 12:11:36
August 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#1178
On August 09 2012 21:04 babysimba wrote:
No, you guys don't get what i mean. Move command banelings clump up automatically, if you box a certain area and move command them to spread them out manually again, the lings that are in that area also get move commanded which is not ideal.
This is why korean zergs don't even bother move commanding banelings against spread army. Just get a large surface and blast everything in, even if banelings hit tanks it's still reliable.

and 5 control groups is not normal even in BW -_-. Progamers rely primarily on mouse control for micro. JD used only 3 control grps for units. Flash used 2 control grps in MLG like most code s terrans do until vikings are out.




You can't control a big army in BW like that if you don't use more then 3 control groups . Jaedong may only use 3 control groups for units , because he has small hands , but other players use 4 - 5 sometimes even more . How the hell do you think that terran and protoss move a maxed army in PvT ?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#1179
Loved the drop in the main, just to distract Leenock.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#1180
Good shit by MC, smacking down that aforementioned one army control group syndrome.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 81 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 656
JuggernautJason53
RushiSC 32
ProTech22
StarCraft: Brood War
sSak 42
scan(afreeca) 27
Dota 2
Gorgc4258
qojqva2282
canceldota29
Counter-Strike
fl0m3719
byalli391
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor197
Other Games
gofns35505
tarik_tv19243
Grubby2970
Beastyqt608
B2W.Neo532
DeMusliM196
Harstem172
KnowMe157
ArmadaUGS104
C9.Mang0102
Livibee57
QueenE47
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream12762
Other Games
gamesdonequick1548
ComeBackTV 262
BasetradeTV177
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 34
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 35
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota255
League of Legends
• Nemesis14257
• TFBlade932
Other Games
• imaqtpie894
• Shiphtur181
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 21m
CranKy Ducklings
15h 21m
RSL Revival
15h 21m
MaxPax vs Rogue
Clem vs Bunny
WardiTV Team League
17h 21m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
22h 21m
BSL
1d 1h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 15h
RSL Revival
1d 15h
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
1d 17h
Patches Events
1d 22h
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
GSL
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-12
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
Proleague 2026-03-13
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.