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8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1161
How "lucky" will MC be this time?
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1162
If MC had been able to warp in I don't know how Leenock could have won.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1163
On August 09 2012 21:01 Uni1987 wrote:
Did they just lower stream quality on blizz stream?


I think they did... just when I was posting about the stream it suddenly felt worse (was also refreshing so I wasn't sure).
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#1164
On August 09 2012 20:58 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:56 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:53 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:51 raga4ka wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:45 babysimba wrote:
lol 5 unit control groups by Roro. I guess that sets a new standard for zerg micro >.>


It was fucking standart in BW , and SC2 really has ruined some of the great BW zergs with this unlimited unit selection , if only they play SC2 like they played BW ;( .

There is a reason for that, your 40 zerglings can literally die in 2 seconds. Try doing cool 5 group tactics with that and no swarm :p

The delay on army movements 5 group vs 1 group is huge in a game which is faster than BW in game speed.


Roro just did that my friend.He did cool 5 group tactics with the swarm.
5 control groups give you more control over your units but it is tough to manage.


Not if you're a Brood War pro.

5 control groups shouldn't be tough to manage at all.


I use 4 army control groups as Terran, only 2 for buildings though. I think this is mostly a thing of personal preference. If you are fast with the mouse you just need one control group for the army to move everything together and split off several squads and units with the mouse instead of using a shortcut. (MMA uses one for his army I think and does everything else with the mouse).

I guess people need to be better overall with their control, not necessarily with 5 control groupts
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 09 2012 12:04 GMT
#1165
No, you guys don't get what i mean. Move command banelings clump up automatically, if you box a certain area and move command them to spread them out manually again, the lings that are in that area also get move commanded which is not ideal.
This is why korean zergs don't even bother move commanding banelings against spread army. Just get a large surface and blast everything in, even if banelings hit tanks it's still reliable.

and 5 control groups is not normal even in BW -_-. Progamers rely primarily on mouse control for micro. JD used only 3 control grps for units. Flash used 2 control grps in MLG like most code s terrans do until vikings are out.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2012 12:04 GMT
#1166
On August 09 2012 21:03 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:01 Uni1987 wrote:
Did they just lower stream quality on blizz stream?


I think they did... just when I was posting about the stream it suddenly felt worse (was also refreshing so I wasn't sure).

Looks the same to me. Just that it doesn't look good whenever camera is moving or moved to a new location.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 09 2012 12:04 GMT
#1167
Goddamn their codec blows big time when the screen is in motion >_<
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 09 2012 12:05 GMT
#1168
On August 09 2012 21:04 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Goddamn their codec blows big time when the screen is in motion >_<


hahah yeah my stream just took terrible, terrible damage
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maracuja123
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil419 Posts
August 09 2012 12:05 GMT
#1169
On August 09 2012 21:03 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:01 Uni1987 wrote:
Did they just lower stream quality on blizz stream?


I think they did... just when I was posting about the stream it suddenly felt worse (was also refreshing so I wasn't sure).

yea they did..
..
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
August 09 2012 12:05 GMT
#1170
both are so good right now, great match
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#1171
Come on Nydus! Use it!
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#1172
On August 09 2012 21:01 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:01 Squeegy wrote:
On August 09 2012 21:00 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:58 Squeegy wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:56 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:53 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:51 raga4ka wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:45 babysimba wrote:
lol 5 unit control groups by Roro. I guess that sets a new standard for zerg micro >.>


It was fucking standart in BW , and SC2 really has ruined some of the great BW zergs with this unlimited unit selection , if only they play SC2 like they played BW ;( .

There is a reason for that, your 40 zerglings can literally die in 2 seconds. Try doing cool 5 group tactics with that and no swarm :p

The delay on army movements 5 group vs 1 group is huge in a game which is faster than BW in game speed.


Roro just did that my friend.He did cool 5 group tactics with the swarm.
5 control groups give you more control over your units but it is tough to manage.


There is no swarm in SC2.


Yes there is.


Oh?


I edited ~_~

I didn't understand it the right way ^^

Going back to the beginning of discussion i may have worded my argument bad. Multiple control groups HELP with drop defense but they are NOT essensital in unit movement and surround tactic and when you insist to have split up forces you have small delay in army movements (compare 1+2+3+4+5 vs 1, no matter how fast you are you are slower than gold leaguer).

However!

If Roro used something like 1 - every unit, 2- spellcaster 3,4,5 - zergling groups and used 3,4,5 for drop dealing and 1 as mass re rally and only used 1-2 for whole army movements it would be cool and smart.

But i need to watch vod :p
Stork[gm]
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#1173
Man, I love MC forcefields.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1174
Sentry remains MC's trademark unit for sure =P
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1175
Leenock falling behind on ups big time
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1176
Leenock pretty late with his Hive and upgrades, MC's gonna have a really strong timing soon.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 09 2012 12:07 GMT
#1177
On August 09 2012 21:05 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 21:04 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Goddamn their codec blows big time when the screen is in motion >_<


hahah yeah my stream just took terrible, terrible damage


Haha so true, i normaly dont complain about PQ but the 480p is pretty poor in quality
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 12:11:36
August 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#1178
On August 09 2012 21:04 babysimba wrote:
No, you guys don't get what i mean. Move command banelings clump up automatically, if you box a certain area and move command them to spread them out manually again, the lings that are in that area also get move commanded which is not ideal.
This is why korean zergs don't even bother move commanding banelings against spread army. Just get a large surface and blast everything in, even if banelings hit tanks it's still reliable.

and 5 control groups is not normal even in BW -_-. Progamers rely primarily on mouse control for micro. JD used only 3 control grps for units. Flash used 2 control grps in MLG like most code s terrans do until vikings are out.




You can't control a big army in BW like that if you don't use more then 3 control groups . Jaedong may only use 3 control groups for units , because he has small hands , but other players use 4 - 5 sometimes even more . How the hell do you think that terran and protoss move a maxed army in PvT ?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#1179
Loved the drop in the main, just to distract Leenock.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 09 2012 12:08 GMT
#1180
Good shit by MC, smacking down that aforementioned one army control group syndrome.
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