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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
August 08 2012 10:43 GMT
#661
ARGH! Signature HerO move is to move out with his mostly Sentry army.. It seems so risky to me, get nervous every time
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 08 2012 10:43 GMT
#662
On August 08 2012 19:42 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:41 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:41 Kommander wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 MCDayC wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:35 CygnusAres wrote:
Wow, win a PvZ without deathball...

That's the way HerO plays. :D It's why his PvZ is some of my favourite.


Hero in general just avoids heavy collosus usage. I love it.

It makes him SO fun to watch. Really gives a glimpse of what the Protoss race could look like without that crutch of a unit.

Reaavuuuu


As much as I hate the Collosus and loved the Reaver in Brood War I still maintain that the Reaver would be overpowered in SC2, now that the game's pathing allows for smart scarabs.

Seriously. The only reason scarabs were ever balanced in SC1 was because you never knew if they were actually going to do what they were supposed to.

Make them smart?! Poor Marines wouldn't stand a chance.


Well, you could make scarabs in SC2 have a 50-60% hit chance. :p


Or you could adjust the damage, or whatever. Nobody is saying they should just copy paste the unit in x_x

Exactly. Remove the luck factor, and balance around them being consistent.

Or make colossi have friendly fire and luck factor aswell. Mohahaha
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 08 2012 10:43 GMT
#663
On August 08 2012 19:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:41 Zambrah wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 MCDayC wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:35 CygnusAres wrote:
Wow, win a PvZ without deathball...

That's the way HerO plays. :D It's why his PvZ is some of my favourite.


Hero in general just avoids heavy collosus usage. I love it.

It makes him SO fun to watch. Really gives a glimpse of what the Protoss race could look like without that crutch of a unit.

Reaavuuuu


As much as I hate the Collosus and loved the Reaver in Brood War I still maintain that the Reaver would be overpowered in SC2, now that the game's pathing allows for smart scarabs.

Seriously. The only reason scarabs were ever balanced in SC1 was because you never knew if they were actually going to do what they were supposed to.

Make them smart?! Poor Marines wouldn't stand a chance.


I feel no such sentiment towards Marines. :p

BRING ON THE REAVERS!


You heartless bastard!


My Protoss heart bares scars from the Darkest Hour, I find it most difficult to look favorably upon Marines. :-D
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 08 2012 10:44 GMT
#664
On August 08 2012 19:43 Andr3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:42 MCDayC wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:41 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:41 Kommander wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 MCDayC wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:35 CygnusAres wrote:
Wow, win a PvZ without deathball...

That's the way HerO plays. :D It's why his PvZ is some of my favourite.


Hero in general just avoids heavy collosus usage. I love it.

It makes him SO fun to watch. Really gives a glimpse of what the Protoss race could look like without that crutch of a unit.

Reaavuuuu


As much as I hate the Collosus and loved the Reaver in Brood War I still maintain that the Reaver would be overpowered in SC2, now that the game's pathing allows for smart scarabs.

Seriously. The only reason scarabs were ever balanced in SC1 was because you never knew if they were actually going to do what they were supposed to.

Make them smart?! Poor Marines wouldn't stand a chance.


Well, you could make scarabs in SC2 have a 50-60% hit chance. :p


Or you could adjust the damage, or whatever. Nobody is saying they should just copy paste the unit in x_x

Exactly. Remove the luck factor, and balance around them being consistent.


They they wouldn't be the reavers we love...

They'd be a damn sight better than colossus.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
August 08 2012 10:44 GMT
#665
On August 08 2012 19:40 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:38 Fubi wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:26 ujonecro wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:23 Fubi wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:10 ujonecro wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

So basically its two zergs advancing from Round 1. Curious/Miya because its ZvZ and probably Yugi because he plays ZvT. Fucking sad.

To be fair, of the eliminated Zergs, 2-4 (assuming Effort and Roro will be out too) of them are Kespa zergs eliminated by GSL players, so that really doesn't say much about the races. Then theres Coca who lost to the current Code S Champion Seed,
and BBong and Leenock also got 2 of the other current top Protoss opponents too (Squirtle, MC); but even then, they still have a chance to go through. Then theres DRG we just watched, which was pretty close even despite how bad DRG played.

So it's much more of bad luck/mismatches than Zergs doing bad (based on the results of this tournament so far at least)



So what happened to all top Zergs? Isnt Zerg the imba race? Are all of them suddenly in a slump? Coincidence?

What do you mean? 12 Zergs got through the preliminaries for this tournament alone (more than the other 2 races), including current top zergs like Curious, DRG, Coca, Leenock, etc. Sure, it's missing Symbol/Nestea, but you can say for same for Terran missing players like MKP/MMA etc, doesn't really mean much when the preliminaries are Bo3 single elimination.


Too bad it isnt just this tournament. And who cares about prelims, look at round 2.

And my previous reply just explained why Round 2 looks like that; it isn't due to the fact that Zergs are doing bad, it's more of a reason that most of those Zergs are either Kespa Zergs matched against GSL players or Zergs matched against 3 of the current best Protoss, including the current GSL champion (Seed, MC, Squirtle). DRG's game was also close as hell as we just watched, he could of easily won that last game but he threw it away, so it had nothing to do with balance.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
August 08 2012 10:44 GMT
#666
why is it out of sync?
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
August 08 2012 10:44 GMT
#667
hero is like, "lol to easy"
yo
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
August 08 2012 10:44 GMT
#668
On August 08 2012 19:40 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:38 Fubi wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:26 ujonecro wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:23 Fubi wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:10 ujonecro wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Asia/Nationals/South_Korea

So basically its two zergs advancing from Round 1. Curious/Miya because its ZvZ and probably Yugi because he plays ZvT. Fucking sad.

To be fair, of the eliminated Zergs, 2-4 (assuming Effort and Roro will be out too) of them are Kespa zergs eliminated by GSL players, so that really doesn't say much about the races. Then theres Coca who lost to the current Code S Champion Seed,
and BBong and Leenock also got 2 of the other current top Protoss opponents too (Squirtle, MC); but even then, they still have a chance to go through. Then theres DRG we just watched, which was pretty close even despite how bad DRG played.

So it's much more of bad luck/mismatches than Zergs doing bad (based on the results of this tournament so far at least)



So what happened to all top Zergs? Isnt Zerg the imba race? Are all of them suddenly in a slump? Coincidence?

What do you mean? 12 Zergs got through the preliminaries for this tournament alone (more than the other 2 races), including current top zergs like Curious, DRG, Coca, Leenock, etc. Sure, it's missing Symbol/Nestea, but you can say for same for Terran missing players like MKP/MMA etc, doesn't really mean much when the preliminaries are Bo3 single elimination.


Too bad it isnt just this tournament. And who cares about prelims, look at round 2.


This round so far some KESPA zergs are losing (no real surprise honestly) DRG did something that I do not understand and the reigning GSL champion beat someone.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#669
On August 08 2012 19:42 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:41 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:41 Kommander wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 MCDayC wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:35 CygnusAres wrote:
Wow, win a PvZ without deathball...

That's the way HerO plays. :D It's why his PvZ is some of my favourite.


Hero in general just avoids heavy collosus usage. I love it.

It makes him SO fun to watch. Really gives a glimpse of what the Protoss race could look like without that crutch of a unit.

Reaavuuuu


As much as I hate the Collosus and loved the Reaver in Brood War I still maintain that the Reaver would be overpowered in SC2, now that the game's pathing allows for smart scarabs.

Seriously. The only reason scarabs were ever balanced in SC1 was because you never knew if they were actually going to do what they were supposed to.

Make them smart?! Poor Marines wouldn't stand a chance.


Well, you could make scarabs in SC2 have a 50-60% hit chance. :p


Or you could adjust the damage, or whatever. Nobody is saying they should just copy paste the unit in x_x

Exactly. Remove the luck factor, and balance around them being consistent.

I don't think you understand how reavers are exciting..
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#670
On August 08 2012 19:41 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:41 Kommander wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 MCDayC wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:36 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:35 CygnusAres wrote:
Wow, win a PvZ without deathball...

That's the way HerO plays. :D It's why his PvZ is some of my favourite.


Hero in general just avoids heavy collosus usage. I love it.

It makes him SO fun to watch. Really gives a glimpse of what the Protoss race could look like without that crutch of a unit.

Reaavuuuu


As much as I hate the Collosus and loved the Reaver in Brood War I still maintain that the Reaver would be overpowered in SC2, now that the game's pathing allows for smart scarabs.

Seriously. The only reason scarabs were ever balanced in SC1 was because you never knew if they were actually going to do what they were supposed to.

Make them smart?! Poor Marines wouldn't stand a chance.


Well, you could make scarabs in SC2 have a 50-60% hit chance. :p


Or you could adjust the damage, or whatever. Nobody is saying they should just copy paste the unit in x_x


I mean it's a nice thing to think about but the truth is it's a unit that would definitely be difficult to transfer over which is probably why it wasn't in in the first place.

I mean, what would be the point of the Reaver if it didn't do that insane damage on a slow attack rate? That completely defeats the purpose of Prism harass.

50-60% hit chance, that introduces RNG into an e-sport and that's BAD BAD.

Like I said. I loved the unit in BW, but I'm happier keeping my fond memories of it rather than seeing it unsuccessfully introduced to SC2 and ruining its legacy.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#671
well I was way off...

Effort never had a chance, let alone take a game.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#672
wow another terrible game =(
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#673
Effort just got bopped.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#674
On August 08 2012 19:43 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:40 HolyArrow wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:36 Doraemon wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:35 BeyondCtrL wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:35 Doraemon wrote:
these games are so disappointing to watch. will zergs ever win


Wat..


thanks for the response. i've been watching for the last few days and barely seen zergs win. that is my observation.


Your observation ignores the fact that pretty much every Zerg that's lost had opponents that were favored against them, especially with DRG currently slumping.


i don't get how it ignores that. zergs lost no? that is all. meh. i just want the kespa players to play well and they are not.


Well, your initial post seemed to imply some sort of balance whine about Zergs not winning. My point was simply that it's pretty expected that most of these Zergs won't win because they're all the underdogs in their matches.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#675
This is a bop.
HavocGG
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic113 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#676
Get bopped.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#677
and effort dies to a poke by hero lol
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#678
what a shit game lol
so 1 sided
IM & EG supporter
Skelith
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden101 Posts
August 08 2012 10:45 GMT
#679
disgusting.
"There is no rest in the dark realm."
Gorg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany261 Posts
August 08 2012 10:46 GMT
#680
On August 08 2012 19:45 Sc2Null wrote:
Effort just got bopped.


lol, you are right.
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