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darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 13:01:21
August 07 2012 12:59 GMT
#1641
On August 07 2012 21:48 Nekovivie wrote:
soulkey is horrible at spotting nukes lol


Not really, he missed like 2 out of 10. I've seen Nestea and other top zergs miss more. Constant drop/nuke play is so hard to deal with, I feel for zergs. Often times you don't even have time to get up proper defenses/detection before you're dropped again. I laugh at the Terrans who were saying ghosts are useless now in their over dramatic whines.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 07 2012 13:00 GMT
#1642
On August 07 2012 21:59 Skelith wrote:
is soulkey 10x better then gumiho? 2 months vs 24..


Soulkey is playing longer then for 2 months. But he is pretty good, the best of the Kespa players I've seen yet.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 07 2012 13:00 GMT
#1643
Kespa zergs with their drop weaknesses... looking forward to Effort vs HerO, lol.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 07 2012 13:00 GMT
#1644
flash playing

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=358632

gogo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 07 2012 13:01 GMT
#1645
On August 07 2012 22:00 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 21:59 Skelith wrote:
is soulkey 10x better then gumiho? 2 months vs 24..


Soulkey is playing longer then for 2 months. But he is pretty good, the best of the Kespa players I've seen yet.

Reality, Best and Flash looking better imo.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 07 2012 13:02 GMT
#1646
Oh is Flash doing good now? Last I heard Flash was very fuddy duddy.
twitch.tv/medrea
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 07 2012 13:02 GMT
#1647
On August 07 2012 22:01 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 22:00 Yello wrote:
On August 07 2012 21:59 Skelith wrote:
is soulkey 10x better then gumiho? 2 months vs 24..


Soulkey is playing longer then for 2 months. But he is pretty good, the best of the Kespa players I've seen yet.

Reality, Best and Flash looking better imo.


I meant against established GSL players. Sorry, should have said that. I look forward to see the other Kespa players vs GSL players soon.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
August 07 2012 13:06 GMT
#1648
cant wait to see the interview with gumiho.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
August 07 2012 13:07 GMT
#1649
Some bw Fans try to Hype their players up so desperately.
They havent took a single map yet.
Im pretty sure they will rate this as a disaster for themselves, because they are high level athletes who train really hard.

Dont get me wrong soulkey delivered a Good fight today, but selling this performances as a sign of their superb talent and improvement I'd pathetic.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 07 2012 13:09 GMT
#1650
Totally on topic: Doesnt Soulkey look a bit like Byun!?
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
August 07 2012 13:11 GMT
#1651
On August 07 2012 22:00 opterown wrote:
flash playing

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=358632

gogo

Sadly that game is .... bad by both the terran and zerg. (especially afer watching gumiho vs soulkey)
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
August 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#1652
How were the games between Seed and Coca?
I've got moves like Jagger
zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
August 07 2012 13:13 GMT
#1653
Maybe you should have watched a replay from yourself before watching OSL. Then you couldn't believe your eyes how awesome they play.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 07 2012 13:16 GMT
#1654
On August 07 2012 22:13 Bashion wrote:
How were the games between Seed and Coca?

1st game: 1 gate expand -> Stargate with 2xVoid Ray -> 2 base timing with Voidrays + blink stalkers and +2 attack. Coca dead.

2nd game: FFE into macro game. Seed eventually going double robo and attacking at 4vs5 bases. Coca counters and kills 2 bases. Seed pulls back to defend and rebuild, Coca uses the time to build the +3/3 broodlord/infestor/corrupter. Coca commits without splitting BLs -> Vortex -> BLs gone -> counterattack wins game.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
August 07 2012 13:17 GMT
#1655
could not have been more wrong in liquidbets. 1/4 atleast gumiho won.
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 13:22:16
August 07 2012 13:17 GMT
#1656
On August 07 2012 22:07 ChaosArcher wrote:
Some bw Fans try to Hype their players up so desperately.
They havent took a single map yet.
Im pretty sure they will rate this as a disaster for themselves, because they are high level athletes who train really hard.

Dont get me wrong soulkey delivered a Good fight today, but selling this performances as a sign of their superb talent and improvement I'd pathetic.


Uh.. pathetic how? How does that not show improvement? He's been playing SC2 for like 2-4 months, and practicing some BW during that as well. It's not impressive that he gives a guy who is probably top 5, if not top 3, terran in the world right now and playing 5-10 times longer, a run for his money and exciting games? Get a grip.

So tired of this stupid argument. No one reasonable was saying Kespa players would dominate within 2 months, and just because they don't doesn't make them "terrible" or whatever like some seem to be saying. Gom players are better, as they should be, theres a few Kespa players at high code A maybe even approaching code S level already, it's impressive enough. I'm pretty sure that Soulkey and other of the best kespa players would already dominate 95% of the foreign scene, who have been playing for 2 years.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 07 2012 13:19 GMT
#1657
On August 07 2012 21:59 darkest44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 21:48 Nekovivie wrote:
soulkey is horrible at spotting nukes lol


Not really, he missed like 2 out of 10. I've seen Nestea and other top zergs miss more. Constant drop/nuke play is so hard to deal with, I feel for zergs. Often times you don't even have time to get up proper defenses/detection before you're dropped again. I laugh at the Terrans who were saying ghosts are useless now in their over dramatic whines.


I am not sure about that. Sure, when the nukes and EMPs hit, they were nice. But Gumiho lost a lot of ghosts as well. Who knows what would have happened if he built a bigger ground army instead. It is not like Gumiho just dominated once the ghosts were out (like per snipe nerf). Zergs complain about Ultras as well but we have seen Ultras win games as well.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 07 2012 13:19 GMT
#1658
In the end hard work will prevail.

HOTS will shave down the experience edge the players in the current scene have as well.
twitch.tv/medrea
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 07 2012 13:23 GMT
#1659
On August 07 2012 22:17 darkest44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 22:07 ChaosArcher wrote:
Some bw Fans try to Hype their players up so desperately.
They havent took a single map yet.
Im pretty sure they will rate this as a disaster for themselves, because they are high level athletes who train really hard.

Dont get me wrong soulkey delivered a Good fight today, but selling this performances as a sign of their superb talent and improvement I'd pathetic.


Uh.. pathetic how? He's been playing SC2 for like 2-4 months, and practicing some BW during that as well. It's not impressive that he gives a guy who is probably top 5, if not top 3, terran in the world right now and playing 5-10 times longer, a run for his money and exciting games? Get a grip.

So tired of this stupid argument. No one reasonable was saying Kespa players would dominate within 2 months, and just because they don't doesn't make them "terrible" or whatever like some seem to be saying. Gom players are better, as they should be, theres a few Kespa players at high code A maybe even approaching code S level already, it's impressive enough. I'm pretty sure that Soulkey and other kespa players would already dominate 95% of the foreign scene, who have been playing for 2 years.


I think the problem is that SOME BW Elitests did come into SC2 forums and claim Kespa B teamers would walkover GSL player within 2 months due to mechanics. And a lot of the backlash is against those comments. As with most opinionated to topics, the truth is somewhere in between. Kespa player aren't dominated right away but are showing that some will be able to catch up in the near future. Others might struggle and be phased out.
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
August 07 2012 13:25 GMT
#1660
On August 07 2012 22:17 darkest44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 22:07 ChaosArcher wrote:
Some bw Fans try to Hype their players up so desperately.
They havent took a single map yet.
Im pretty sure they will rate this as a disaster for themselves, because they are high level athletes who train really hard.

Dont get me wrong soulkey delivered a Good fight today, but selling this performances as a sign of their superb talent and improvement I'd pathetic.


Uh.. pathetic how? How does that not show improvement? He's been playing SC2 for like 2-4 months, and practicing some BW during that as well. It's not impressive that he gives a guy who is probably top 5, if not top 3, terran in the world right now and playing 5-10 times longer, a run for his money and exciting games? Get a grip.

So tired of this stupid argument. No one reasonable was saying Kespa players would dominate within 2 months, and just because they don't doesn't make them "terrible" or whatever like some seem to be saying. Gom players are better, as they should be, theres a few Kespa players at high code A maybe even approaching code S level already, it's impressive enough. I'm pretty sure that Soulkey and other of the best kespa players would already dominate 95% of the foreign scene, who have been playing for 2 years.


0 maps. How is that low code s level. Alive isn't even in code s right now. 0 maps man.
They improve on a daily basis just like every other player who started the game at that time
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