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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
On August 07 2012 21:48 Nekovivie wrote: soulkey is horrible at spotting nukes lol Not really, he missed like 2 out of 10. I've seen Nestea and other top zergs miss more. Constant drop/nuke play is so hard to deal with, I feel for zergs. Often times you don't even have time to get up proper defenses/detection before you're dropped again. I laugh at the Terrans who were saying ghosts are useless now in their over dramatic whines. | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On August 07 2012 21:59 Skelith wrote: is soulkey 10x better then gumiho? 2 months vs 24.. Soulkey is playing longer then for 2 months. But he is pretty good, the best of the Kespa players I've seen yet. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=358632 gogo | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On August 07 2012 22:00 Yello wrote: Soulkey is playing longer then for 2 months. But he is pretty good, the best of the Kespa players I've seen yet. Reality, Best and Flash looking better imo. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On August 07 2012 22:01 IshinShishi wrote: Reality, Best and Flash looking better imo. I meant against established GSL players. Sorry, should have said that. I look forward to see the other Kespa players vs GSL players soon. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
They havent took a single map yet. Im pretty sure they will rate this as a disaster for themselves, because they are high level athletes who train really hard. Dont get me wrong soulkey delivered a Good fight today, but selling this performances as a sign of their superb talent and improvement I'd pathetic. | ||
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Kreb
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Frankon
3054 Posts
On August 07 2012 22:00 opterown wrote: flash playing http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=358632 gogo Sadly that game is .... bad by both the terran and zerg. (especially afer watching gumiho vs soulkey) | ||
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
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zimms
Austria561 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On August 07 2012 22:13 Bashion wrote: How were the games between Seed and Coca? 1st game: 1 gate expand -> Stargate with 2xVoid Ray -> 2 base timing with Voidrays + blink stalkers and +2 attack. Coca dead. 2nd game: FFE into macro game. Seed eventually going double robo and attacking at 4vs5 bases. Coca counters and kills 2 bases. Seed pulls back to defend and rebuild, Coca uses the time to build the +3/3 broodlord/infestor/corrupter. Coca commits without splitting BLs -> Vortex -> BLs gone -> counterattack wins game. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
On August 07 2012 22:07 ChaosArcher wrote: Some bw Fans try to Hype their players up so desperately. They havent took a single map yet. Im pretty sure they will rate this as a disaster for themselves, because they are high level athletes who train really hard. Dont get me wrong soulkey delivered a Good fight today, but selling this performances as a sign of their superb talent and improvement I'd pathetic. Uh.. pathetic how? How does that not show improvement? He's been playing SC2 for like 2-4 months, and practicing some BW during that as well. It's not impressive that he gives a guy who is probably top 5, if not top 3, terran in the world right now and playing 5-10 times longer, a run for his money and exciting games? Get a grip. So tired of this stupid argument. No one reasonable was saying Kespa players would dominate within 2 months, and just because they don't doesn't make them "terrible" or whatever like some seem to be saying. Gom players are better, as they should be, theres a few Kespa players at high code A maybe even approaching code S level already, it's impressive enough. I'm pretty sure that Soulkey and other of the best kespa players would already dominate 95% of the foreign scene, who have been playing for 2 years. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 07 2012 21:59 darkest44 wrote: Not really, he missed like 2 out of 10. I've seen Nestea and other top zergs miss more. Constant drop/nuke play is so hard to deal with, I feel for zergs. Often times you don't even have time to get up proper defenses/detection before you're dropped again. I laugh at the Terrans who were saying ghosts are useless now in their over dramatic whines. I am not sure about that. Sure, when the nukes and EMPs hit, they were nice. But Gumiho lost a lot of ghosts as well. Who knows what would have happened if he built a bigger ground army instead. It is not like Gumiho just dominated once the ghosts were out (like per snipe nerf). Zergs complain about Ultras as well but we have seen Ultras win games as well. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
HOTS will shave down the experience edge the players in the current scene have as well. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On August 07 2012 22:17 darkest44 wrote: Uh.. pathetic how? He's been playing SC2 for like 2-4 months, and practicing some BW during that as well. It's not impressive that he gives a guy who is probably top 5, if not top 3, terran in the world right now and playing 5-10 times longer, a run for his money and exciting games? Get a grip. So tired of this stupid argument. No one reasonable was saying Kespa players would dominate within 2 months, and just because they don't doesn't make them "terrible" or whatever like some seem to be saying. Gom players are better, as they should be, theres a few Kespa players at high code A maybe even approaching code S level already, it's impressive enough. I'm pretty sure that Soulkey and other kespa players would already dominate 95% of the foreign scene, who have been playing for 2 years. I think the problem is that SOME BW Elitests did come into SC2 forums and claim Kespa B teamers would walkover GSL player within 2 months due to mechanics. And a lot of the backlash is against those comments. As with most opinionated to topics, the truth is somewhere in between. Kespa player aren't dominated right away but are showing that some will be able to catch up in the near future. Others might struggle and be phased out. | ||
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ChaosArcher
Germany956 Posts
On August 07 2012 22:17 darkest44 wrote: Uh.. pathetic how? How does that not show improvement? He's been playing SC2 for like 2-4 months, and practicing some BW during that as well. It's not impressive that he gives a guy who is probably top 5, if not top 3, terran in the world right now and playing 5-10 times longer, a run for his money and exciting games? Get a grip. So tired of this stupid argument. No one reasonable was saying Kespa players would dominate within 2 months, and just because they don't doesn't make them "terrible" or whatever like some seem to be saying. Gom players are better, as they should be, theres a few Kespa players at high code A maybe even approaching code S level already, it's impressive enough. I'm pretty sure that Soulkey and other of the best kespa players would already dominate 95% of the foreign scene, who have been playing for 2 years. 0 maps. How is that low code s level. Alive isn't even in code s right now. 0 maps man. They improve on a daily basis just like every other player who started the game at that time | ||
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