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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 04 2012 21:45 GMT
#521
On August 05 2012 06:41 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:39 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


That might be because mules have no attack :p


make for better scouts

well it's sure as hell impossible to get any worse scouts
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3484 Posts
August 04 2012 21:45 GMT
#522
On August 05 2012 06:44 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:42 Gescom wrote:
If Creator wasn't floating 2k/1k towards the end of the game that would have looked even more violent...


To be fair, he was waiting for his warpgates to get off cooldown :p

Nah, he got behind on macro all the way from 100->180 supply.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 21:46:45
August 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#523
On August 05 2012 06:44 Fungal Growth wrote:
That was a suspicous scout...and hopefully Liquid audits that replay for possibley map-hacks.

That being said, Creator might have suspected this based on Select's match history and/or the lack of forces at the front door when the probe scouted. Bit of mis-micro as Select let that probe escape because he was focusing down the neutral supply depot...

Still, it is odd that Creator picked the right half of the map to scout.

Really? If select had been the one scouting the hidden expo, you would be cheering him for his brilliant game sense. Are players not allowed to scout for hidden expos anymore? I guess the correct play is to go hidden expo every game then. Odd that he picked the right half? Hilarious, that's 50/50

Disgraceful allegations
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#524
On August 05 2012 06:45 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


Out of intrest: If MULE´s block the path of things - do changelings block it as well? And if yes, what stops you from making 100 overseers and block the whole space under your b-lords and keep stalkers away from blinking in?


They do, actually. And zergs dont do it because they refuse to make enough overseers for that, much to drazerks chagrin.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 21:46:35
August 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#525
On August 05 2012 06:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:41 Denzil wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


That might be because mules have no attack :p



make for better scouts

well it's sure as hell impossible to get any worse scouts


We all know broodwar pro would have find an use for the scout with a few more years. :<
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#526
On August 05 2012 06:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:41 Denzil wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


That might be because mules have no attack :p


make for better scouts

well it's sure as hell impossible to get any worse scouts

Mules can cause friendly fire in TvT so it's already better in a fight than scouts.
Glorious SEA doto
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 04 2012 21:46 GMT
#527
On August 05 2012 06:45 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


Out of intrest: If MULE´s block the path of things - do changelings block it as well? And if yes, what stops you from making 100 overseers and block the whole space under your b-lords and keep stalkers away from blinking in?

nothing, you can do that, and players have done stuff like that, generally it's not worth the gas investment in overseers which could have been more BL/Infestor/Corruptor
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
August 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#528
On August 05 2012 06:44 Fungal Growth wrote:
Still, it is odd that Creator picked the right half of the map to scout.

as opposed to even?
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#529
On August 05 2012 06:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:41 Denzil wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


That might be because mules have no attack :p


make for better scouts

well it's sure as hell impossible to get any worse scouts


I'm glad someone else had that thought too
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#530
On August 05 2012 06:46 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:41 Denzil wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
[quote]

Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


That might be because mules have no attack :p



make for better scouts

well it's sure as hell impossible to get any worse scouts


We all know broodwar pro would have find an use for the scout with a few more years. :<

It did, it's used to mock hwasin for making the RO16 of every goddamn starleague.
Glorious SEA doto
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#531
On August 05 2012 06:45 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


Out of intrest: If MULE´s block the path of things - do changelings block it as well? And if yes, what stops you from making 100 overseers and block the whole space under your b-lords and keep stalkers away from blinking in?

Search the word "changefield" on youtube.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 04 2012 21:47 GMT
#532
I have never built a scout. lol
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 21:48:19
August 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#533
On August 05 2012 06:47 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:46 Noocta wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:41 Denzil wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
[quote]
Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though



That might be because mules have no attack :p



make for better scouts

well it's sure as hell impossible to get any worse scouts


We all know broodwar pro would have find an use for the scout with a few more years. :<

It did, it's used to mock hwasin for making the RO16 of every goddamn starleague.

Well, beside that I mean xDD
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
August 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#534
Wouldn't it make more sense to poke a pre-stim terran with your stalker instead of wasting valuable early time to scout expansions? With good stalker play, you can get a sense of whether the terran had a suspicously small number of troops.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
August 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#535
On August 05 2012 06:45 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 06:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:35 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 06:34 M7Jagger wrote:
I love how he didn't check the bottom right...


Why would you check the bottom right? To check for Another proxy CC? lol

Never count out the hidden 6CC build.


It's a very advanced tactic.

Yeah man, he scouts the right side, select builds 4CCs at the other side and creator is suddenly "Omg how did he max out so quickly".


It's also known as the "macro bit-by-bit" because of the 200 supply worth of scvs.

I've done that in free-for-alls

you can use mule rains as force fields, somewhat lacking in dps though


Out of intrest: If MULE´s block the path of things - do changelings block it as well? And if yes, what stops you from making 100 overseers and block the whole space under your b-lords and keep stalkers away from blinking in?

Probably self respect. You don't want 20 ugly little zealots inside your army.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#536
Lol, people are actually accusing Creator of maphacking? Rofl.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 21:49:08
August 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#537
I built a Scout when I played the Campaign. Come to think of it, that was the only thing I played in the original.

Also, Scout > Potato Salad
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 04 2012 21:49 GMT
#538
On August 05 2012 06:47 Gosi wrote:
I have never built a scout. lol

Why would you?
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
August 04 2012 21:49 GMT
#539
On August 05 2012 06:44 Fungal Growth wrote:
That was a suspicous scout...and hopefully Liquid audits that replay for possibley map-hacks.

That being said, Creator might have suspected this based on Select's match history and/or the lack of forces at the front door when the probe scouted. Bit of mis-micro as Select let that probe escape because he was focusing down the neutral supply depot...

Still, it is odd that Creator picked the right half of the map to scout.


Lot's of people are trying to hide CC's these days,,

50-50 chance to scout the right place,, why is this odd?
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#540
On August 05 2012 06:48 Xacez wrote:
I built a Scout when I played the Campaign. Come to think of it, that was the only thing I played in the original.

Also, Scout > Potato Salad


Dude, what if you could make Scout better by putting Mayonnaise on them.
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