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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#1081
I think Suppy should have made Roaches early in the last game, when he saw that Hero was pushing with lots of Zealots. Roaches own Zealots whereas Lings are easy meat for Zealots except in high numbers.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#1082
On August 03 2012 23:29 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:27 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Thank you for the LR DamageControL


Haha at first I thought you were thanking Zatic for damage controlling the balance whining. Nope!

I suppose I could thank him too
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 03 2012 14:31 GMT
#1083
Nightend takes game one over mana, the damage done by the DTs was too much for mana.
Glorious SEA doto
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
August 03 2012 14:31 GMT
#1084
On August 03 2012 23:28 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:27 transcendent one wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:25 ohampatu wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:21 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote:
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@


If anything, Seed wins the Bisu lookalike award



HerO is called mini-Bisu not for looks. Although his looks are top notch as well :/

HerO is called mini-Bisu because of his PvZ and how he plays a playstyle similar to Bisu.


anyone out there who really believes this? and it's not bw elitism. they are just not comparable.


a lot of ppl.
When HerO will show the creativity of Bisu build order wise...


sorry, thats just not true. he has good build orders, but so does MC and Genius and like 100 others. Bisu revolutionized pvz, Hero's done nothing even comparable. he used warp prism more than others before it got buffed but then so did white-ra and sase....
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
August 03 2012 14:31 GMT
#1085
horrible twitch tv again :D
LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
August 03 2012 14:32 GMT
#1086
Wow, it looks really cool when phoenixes lift warping in units. o:
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:32 GMT
#1087
On August 03 2012 23:30 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:28 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:26 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:24 DamageControL wrote:
5:30
Suppy going for three bases.

Hero getting a second gas after a forge expand.

8:00
Hero throwing up four more gates (I think,sorry new at LR)

Suppy getting quite a few lings


9:45

Lings + Roach vs a two base from hero, pressuring the nat of suppy.

Hero has templar archive but has not used yet.

11:00

Suppy pushes back the attack

Robo getting up

Suppy droning up, throwing down a spire.

13:30

Heroes third base is up. His blink is done. He has immortals as well.

Mutas spotted.

Sorry, I'm not doing the best job, this is my first one

17:30

Hero deflecting the mutas pretty easily. Hero has storms, but his warp prism play hasn't been seen, mutas are probably making him decide not to go for it.

Suppy getting infestors, but hero has many templar.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 14:34:23
August 03 2012 14:32 GMT
#1088
On August 03 2012 23:29 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:26 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:22 transcendent one wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:20 -shArk- wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:16 gTank wrote:
I cant wait until the mothership gets taken out of the game...


Yeah because than protoss cannot do anything about broodlord/infestor composition and pvz lategame is totally broken.


unless, god forbid there will be like 20 more unit changes, new maps, new abilities, new upgrades. bu tits clear that pvz lategame will be broken

Everything is going to change a lot, but the latest Heart of the Swarm build publicly playable doesn't increase the late-game army strength of Protoss (Carrier replaced by low DPS Tempest, Mothership Vortex only hits ground) but does increase the Zerg's (Ultralisk burrow charge, Viper, and possibly Swarm Host could be good with anti-air Locusts).


On August 03 2012 23:26 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Hey, a bit off "topic".

But I was just wondering, from the last information we got, is the Mothership still going to be in HotS or is it just the Mothership-Core?

After Fleet Beacon you can turn the Core into a Mothership for 300/300 I think. Vortex only affects ground units and it has a new ability called Stasis which puts all air units into stasis for some time.


and did pro player test the balance through out? maybe z lategame is stronger, but p early game/harass is much stronger also. don't balance whine, not because i hate balance whine, but simply because its dumb to worry about something that you know basically nothing about

I'm not balance whining. I think it's pretty clear that nobody wants Zerg late game to be stronger and Protoss early game to be stronger. It will just magnify the current problems with the metagame where Protosses 2 base all-in a lot because they're scared of playing late game. Removing the Mothership won't make things better either. That said, I think Blizzard want the Tempest to be a go-to late game unit for Protoss, and I have faith in them .
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 03 2012 14:32 GMT
#1089
On August 03 2012 23:31 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 transcendent one wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:25 ohampatu wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:21 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote:
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@


If anything, Seed wins the Bisu lookalike award



HerO is called mini-Bisu not for looks. Although his looks are top notch as well :/

HerO is called mini-Bisu because of his PvZ and how he plays a playstyle similar to Bisu.


anyone out there who really believes this? and it's not bw elitism. they are just not comparable.


a lot of ppl.
When HerO will show the creativity of Bisu build order wise...


sorry, thats just not true. he has good build orders, but so does MC and Genius and like 100 others. Bisu revolutionized pvz, Hero's done nothing even comparable. he used warp prism more than others before it got buffed but then so did white-ra and sase....

I'm pretty sage and JYP were using warp prism heavy PvZ before hero did anyway.
Glorious SEA doto
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
August 03 2012 14:32 GMT
#1090
Anyone find the music a bit distracting ?
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schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
August 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#1091
HerO needs to build his own...cannon wall!! mwahaha
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#1092
Ugh, I really don't like this map.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
August 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#1093
Bad call from HerO.
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
August 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#1094
Teamliquid mods are unbalanced, they have no counter! :p :p

Hopefully its less spammy and whiny now onwards.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Optimism
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom28 Posts
August 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#1095
I wonder what MC-Suppy would be like. Suppy seems pretty good at late game but he's not showed too much else. Would be interesting to see how he holds up against the master of the 2-base timing.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#1096
On August 03 2012 23:32 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:30 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:28 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:26 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:24 DamageControL wrote:
5:30
Suppy going for three bases.

Hero getting a second gas after a forge expand.

8:00
Hero throwing up four more gates (I think,sorry new at LR)

Suppy getting quite a few lings


9:45

Lings + Roach vs a two base from hero, pressuring the nat of suppy.

Hero has templar archive but has not used yet.

11:00

Suppy pushes back the attack

Robo getting up

Suppy droning up, throwing down a spire.

13:30

Heroes third base is up. His blink is done. He has immortals as well.

Mutas spotted.

Sorry, I'm not doing the best job, this is my first one

17:30

Hero deflecting the mutas pretty easily. Hero has storms, but his warp prism play hasn't been seen as much, mutas are probably making him decide not to go for it.

Suppy getting infestors, but hero has many templar.

19:45

Hero pressuring third, supply 170 Hero to 195 of suppy, suppy trading well
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 03 2012 14:34 GMT
#1097
On August 03 2012 23:33 Nekovivie wrote:
Teamliquid mods are unbalanced, they have no counter! :p :p

Hopefully its less spammy and whiny now onwards.


I guess not. Just more bans, haha
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44388 Posts
August 03 2012 14:34 GMT
#1098
Mutas snipe Hero's epic warp prism
> Storm hits mutas, stalkers blink up
> lings surround and kill most the stalkers.

Suppy getting the better trade there imo

Such a tight game though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:34 GMT
#1099
On August 03 2012 23:33 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:32 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:30 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:28 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:26 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:24 DamageControL wrote:
5:30
Suppy going for three bases.

Hero getting a second gas after a forge expand.

8:00
Hero throwing up four more gates (I think,sorry new at LR)

Suppy getting quite a few lings


9:45

Lings + Roach vs a two base from hero, pressuring the nat of suppy.

Hero has templar archive but has not used yet.

11:00

Suppy pushes back the attack

Robo getting up

Suppy droning up, throwing down a spire.

13:30

Heroes third base is up. His blink is done. He has immortals as well.

Mutas spotted.

Sorry, I'm not doing the best job, this is my first one

17:30

Hero deflecting the mutas pretty easily. Hero has storms, but his warp prism play hasn't been seen as much, mutas are probably making him decide not to go for it.

Suppy getting infestors, but hero has many templar.

19:45

Hero pressuring third, supply 170 Hero to 195 of suppy, suppy trading well


20:45

Suppy has 5 bases, quite far ahead. Headed for late game but suppy will have resource advntge.
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 03 2012 14:35 GMT
#1100
Man the background music is really annoying I have to say. Just doesn't fit anything really
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
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