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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1121
Yeah now Suppy indeed has learned, has a lot more lings being mobile, and invested in a lot of defense. Now he shouldn't die to HerO's insane Blue Prism assault...... we'll see what happens!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44158 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1122
Mass stargate transition? Hero gonna throw this game in the late game? x.x Suppy's got a pretty good composition against that.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1123
VOIDRAYS!
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1124
On August 03 2012 23:31 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 transcendent one wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:25 ohampatu wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:21 Incomplet wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:19 covetousrat wrote:
Hero reminds me of Bisu @@


If anything, Seed wins the Bisu lookalike award



HerO is called mini-Bisu not for looks. Although his looks are top notch as well :/

HerO is called mini-Bisu because of his PvZ and how he plays a playstyle similar to Bisu.


anyone out there who really believes this? and it's not bw elitism. they are just not comparable.


a lot of ppl.
When HerO will show the creativity of Bisu build order wise...


sorry, thats just not true. he has good build orders, but so does MC and Genius and like 100 others. Bisu revolutionized pvz, Hero's done nothing even comparable. he used warp prism more than others before it got buffed but then so did white-ra and sase....


Hero plays like Bisu because he primarily uses multi-tasking to stretch the zerg player using multiple storm/zealot drops and warp-ins.

Of course the games are still different and using the newer mass zealot styles Bisu came up with wouldn't work at all.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1125
On August 03 2012 23:35 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:34 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:33 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:32 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:30 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:28 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:26 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:24 DamageControL wrote:
5:30
Suppy going for three bases.

Hero getting a second gas after a forge expand.

8:00
Hero throwing up four more gates (I think,sorry new at LR)

Suppy getting quite a few lings


9:45

Lings + Roach vs a two base from hero, pressuring the nat of suppy.

Hero has templar archive but has not used yet.

11:00

Suppy pushes back the attack

Robo getting up

Suppy droning up, throwing down a spire.

13:30

Heroes third base is up. His blink is done. He has immortals as well.

Mutas spotted.

Sorry, I'm not doing the best job, this is my first one

17:30

Hero deflecting the mutas pretty easily. Hero has storms, but his warp prism play hasn't been seen as much, mutas are probably making him decide not to go for it.

Suppy getting infestors, but hero has many templar.

19:45

Hero pressuring third, supply 170 Hero to 195 of suppy, suppy trading well


20:45

Suppy has 5 bases, quite far ahead. Headed for late game but suppy will have resource advntge.

22:00

Heroes upgrades are quite behind. Hero decides to start an air transition.

24:00

Neural parasite about half done.

180 supply from hero to 199 from suppy.

+2 Plasma +1 air upgrades on the way for hero.

Hero messes up a drop. Void rays from hero, 5 stargates.
Liquid | SKT
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1126
HerO needs to stop wasting so much gas for no damage whatsoever :/
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1127
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#1128
Glad he's going for voidrays instead of carriers.
Long live the King of Wings
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1129
Might aswell leave, mass voidray late game vs infestors? :/
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1130
On August 03 2012 23:37 Slardar wrote:
Yeah now Suppy indeed has learned, has a lot more lings being mobile, and invested in a lot of defense. Now he shouldn't die to HerO's insane Blue Prism assault...... we'll see what happens!


his ability to adapt on fly is really really good. He just totally read Hero on this 5th game.
Zest fanboy.
Zakarummx
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria61 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1131
portosarmy looks so weak...
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1132
♥♥♥ Hero, making Voidrays instead of Carriers. How long did I have to wait for this moment to happen :-)
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1133
4gate vs 4gate in the NightEnD - MaNa game, NightEnD going for the warp prism variant with a proxy robo x].
It appears I have been chosen.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1134
Suppy really should get drops or nydus and spend his bank in counter harassing
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1135
Changeling army-_-
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51478 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1136
On August 03 2012 23:27 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:24 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:20 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:13 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:03 Pandemona wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:57 Leyra wrote:
On August 03 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote:
WTF
Is wrong with DeMu's TvP It's like he has no clue what he is doing in that match up, he could of a moved that colli small army with what he had...and ran away. Then in the main engangement he balls'd it up wtf. NA must be so bad >.<


Seriously? wtf do people start this NA/EU shit every chance they get. Demuslim has even admitted recently he's felt good about his TvP, maybe he just made a mistake?

God damn, some of the people on this forum are so whiny, it's kind of obnoxious.

So happy for Suppy though, hope he can close it out


Or maybe yo, he lost 3-0 to Bisu after saying his TvP is fine on NA...And he is happy with it from ladder results, gets WTF pwnd by Bischu who i haven't even heard from until he got asked to fill in for someone and beats him 3-0. Then he gets beat by the same strat twice in a row..Mass stalker colli vs bio and viking? wut. He was so ahead in game 4 as well he could of a moved him and thought he was behind or something idk what is wrong with him.


He also later beat Bischu, and Welmu as well. He lost to Nightend, who has been playing really well the entire tournament. Seriously, maybe he just didn't play well those games ? No, it has to be LOL NA SUCKS. Sick of this stupid argument popping up everywhere.


Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up.


There is no use argueing. DemusliM is an excellent player but Terran vs Protoss is not just about the match up, but also about the style used in particular. Why do you think Korean Terrans have struggled with EU Protoss in the past and have beaten every Korean Protoss without the games being close?

EU Protoss were a lot more defensive, Colossi style while Koreans were using a gateway style. DemusliM lost to NightEnD who is very unique from his style and has beaten PuMa 3-0 before. DemusliM losing to him doesn't make him bad or NA bad. The discussion is stupid and the player bashing nothing but unneccessary.


Did you watch the games Naruto ffs. NightEnd does the same style every single game, he beat Puma with the same style. Blink Stalker + Colli mix, how DeMu is not able to beat that after seeing the games vs Puma i have no idea! He was sick TvP when he was in EU and before he began his long stint in NA. He was a beast, so many sick builds he did. Then he turns up and 3-0'd vs Bischu who like i said has been no where. NightEnd is good no question, but when u have 3 games of him vs ur team mate to study him from and u lose the same way its stupid. Plus it's not like he got beat hard, he got beat by himself. He could of won the 4th game quite easily. Was ahead by 20 supply and had a 10 supply army lead and some reason thought he was behind...It's crazy.


And that justifies you bashing on him and whole NA? Also if you think a player thats unknown can't be good... thats just so wrong. I could name at least 10 EU grandmasters with no name to them that are able to beat top competitors in tournaments and also have done so in qualifiers etc.
DemusliM had an off series and not his bad day, that happens. Ofcourse everyone knows NightEnD and how he playes, but so do Protoss about Naama. Its just very hard to play against if you don't have a lot of experience against it. There is just NO reason to bash on him for losing. Its not like he didn't try. He will kick himself for losing more than enough, no need to rub it in his face.


Bashing? It was a statement, i love DeMu, he is the best we have from England. But when you see him make silly mistakes vs Taeja, and then bring them over into the game vs NightEnd when at multiple times he had huge chances to go do damage, especially in game 4 which he lost. Thats not the DeMu im used to seeing, the one who plays so good in every game, 3 CC vs Zergs and tries to out macro them. To that in TvP is qute unreal.
I could name lots of EU GMs too that are good, i know about Recco powning things up before he made his burst into the scene, but he hasn't yet (apart from UK WCS) landed well into offline tournaments yet, but he is only 16 and isn't used to all the spotlight as of yet. But that point is irrelevant, im sure lots of people knew Suppy could do what he has from the NA ladder offline tourneys.
Naama is figured out vs the best, look what MC did to Naama....Thats how you play vs him.
Criticism and Bashing are two different things, you should know that. Im sure you've had criticism in your gaming life and taken on the chin and learnt from it.
He had an off tournament IMO which is unlike him as he turns up and plays amazing in all, but i hope he improves in IEM he qualified for because he is so better than what we saw today and yesterday. He can give way more
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1137
On August 03 2012 23:38 TeeTS wrote:
♥♥♥ Hero, making Voidrays instead of Carriers. How long did I have to wait for this moment to happen :-)


to see how effective fungal can be ?
Zest fanboy.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1138
Hero I believe!!!
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#1139
On August 03 2012 23:37 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:35 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:34 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:33 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:32 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:30 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:28 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:26 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:24 DamageControL wrote:
5:30
Suppy going for three bases.

Hero getting a second gas after a forge expand.

8:00
Hero throwing up four more gates (I think,sorry new at LR)

Suppy getting quite a few lings


9:45

Lings + Roach vs a two base from hero, pressuring the nat of suppy.

Hero has templar archive but has not used yet.

11:00

Suppy pushes back the attack

Robo getting up

Suppy droning up, throwing down a spire.

13:30

Heroes third base is up. His blink is done. He has immortals as well.

Mutas spotted.

Sorry, I'm not doing the best job, this is my first one

17:30

Hero deflecting the mutas pretty easily. Hero has storms, but his warp prism play hasn't been seen as much, mutas are probably making him decide not to go for it.

Suppy getting infestors, but hero has many templar.

19:45

Hero pressuring third, supply 170 Hero to 195 of suppy, suppy trading well


20:45

Suppy has 5 bases, quite far ahead. Headed for late game but suppy will have resource advntge.

22:00

Heroes upgrades are quite behind. Hero decides to start an air transition.

24:00

Neural parasite about half done.

180 supply from hero to 199 from suppy.

+2 Plasma +1 air upgrades on the way for hero.

Hero messes up a drop. Void rays from hero, 5 stargates.

26:00

Both players maxed. Both on 5 bases. Void rays are seen by suppy, spores going up
Liquid | SKT
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1140
SO MANY SPINES/SPORES TTTTTTTTTTTT
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