On August 03 2012 23:40 Lazzi wrote:
Hero or Federer??? Can't decide, both equally epic!
Hero or Federer??? Can't decide, both equally epic!
Fed for history

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Please everyone, stop the balance whining. This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53. | ||
imre
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1161
On August 03 2012 23:40 Lazzi wrote: Hero or Federer??? Can't decide, both equally epic! Fed for history ![]() | ||
Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1162
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chocopaw
2072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1163
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1164
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1165
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Zalitara
Norway361 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1166
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Iblis
904 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1167
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1168
By the way why does Suppy make no Roaches? | ||
Antithesis
Germany1148 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1169
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1170
On August 03 2012 23:38 Pandemona wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2012 23:27 Type|NarutO wrote: On August 03 2012 23:24 Pandemona wrote: On August 03 2012 23:20 Type|NarutO wrote: On August 03 2012 23:16 Pandemona wrote: On August 03 2012 23:13 Leyra wrote: On August 03 2012 23:03 Pandemona wrote: On August 03 2012 22:57 Leyra wrote: On August 03 2012 22:55 Pandemona wrote: WTF Is wrong with DeMu's TvP It's like he has no clue what he is doing in that match up, he could of a moved that colli small army with what he had...and ran away. Then in the main engangement he balls'd it up wtf. NA must be so bad >.< Seriously? wtf do people start this NA/EU shit every chance they get. Demuslim has even admitted recently he's felt good about his TvP, maybe he just made a mistake? God damn, some of the people on this forum are so whiny, it's kind of obnoxious. So happy for Suppy though, hope he can close it out ![]() Or maybe yo, he lost 3-0 to Bisu after saying his TvP is fine on NA...And he is happy with it from ladder results, gets WTF pwnd by Bischu who i haven't even heard from until he got asked to fill in for someone and beats him 3-0. Then he gets beat by the same strat twice in a row..Mass stalker colli vs bio and viking? wut. He was so ahead in game 4 as well he could of a moved him and thought he was behind or something idk what is wrong with him. He also later beat Bischu, and Welmu as well. He lost to Nightend, who has been playing really well the entire tournament. Seriously, maybe he just didn't play well those games ? No, it has to be LOL NA SUCKS. Sick of this stupid argument popping up everywhere. Or the fact he had to cheese his way threw Bischu, winning 3-2. After bischu did stupid things like proxy 2 gate inside her base! NA vs EU vs KR is the standard debate, everyone knows KR is stupidly high level and the NA vs EU always crops up. There is no use argueing. DemusliM is an excellent player but Terran vs Protoss is not just about the match up, but also about the style used in particular. Why do you think Korean Terrans have struggled with EU Protoss in the past and have beaten every Korean Protoss without the games being close? EU Protoss were a lot more defensive, Colossi style while Koreans were using a gateway style. DemusliM lost to NightEnD who is very unique from his style and has beaten PuMa 3-0 before. DemusliM losing to him doesn't make him bad or NA bad. The discussion is stupid and the player bashing nothing but unneccessary. Did you watch the games Naruto ffs. NightEnd does the same style every single game, he beat Puma with the same style. Blink Stalker + Colli mix, how DeMu is not able to beat that after seeing the games vs Puma i have no idea! He was sick TvP when he was in EU and before he began his long stint in NA. He was a beast, so many sick builds he did. Then he turns up and 3-0'd vs Bischu who like i said has been no where. NightEnd is good no question, but when u have 3 games of him vs ur team mate to study him from and u lose the same way its stupid. Plus it's not like he got beat hard, he got beat by himself. He could of won the 4th game quite easily. Was ahead by 20 supply and had a 10 supply army lead and some reason thought he was behind...It's crazy. And that justifies you bashing on him and whole NA? Also if you think a player thats unknown can't be good... thats just so wrong. I could name at least 10 EU grandmasters with no name to them that are able to beat top competitors in tournaments and also have done so in qualifiers etc. DemusliM had an off series and not his bad day, that happens. Ofcourse everyone knows NightEnD and how he playes, but so do Protoss about Naama. Its just very hard to play against if you don't have a lot of experience against it. There is just NO reason to bash on him for losing. Its not like he didn't try. He will kick himself for losing more than enough, no need to rub it in his face. Bashing? It was a statement, i love DeMu, he is the best we have from England. But when you see him make silly mistakes vs Taeja, and then bring them over into the game vs NightEnd when at multiple times he had huge chances to go do damage, especially in game 4 which he lost. Thats not the DeMu im used to seeing, the one who plays so good in every game, 3 CC vs Zergs and tries to out macro them. To that in TvP is qute unreal. I could name lots of EU GMs too that are good, i know about Recco powning things up before he made his burst into the scene, but he hasn't yet (apart from UK WCS) landed well into offline tournaments yet, but he is only 16 and isn't used to all the spotlight as of yet. But that point is irrelevant, im sure lots of people knew Suppy could do what he has from the NA ladder offline tourneys. Naama is figured out vs the best, look what MC did to Naama....Thats how you play vs him. Criticism and Bashing are two different things, you should know that. Im sure you've had criticism in your gaming life and taken on the chin and learnt from it. He had an off tournament IMO which is unlike him as he turns up and plays amazing in all, but i hope he improves in IEM he qualified for because he is so better than what we saw today and yesterday. He can give way more Since you are not in contact with DemusliM you might be right writing it down. I did live with DemusliM for half a year or so. Once I lost the EPS (ESL Pro Series) qualifier in the finals 0-3 when I didn't drop a single map before. I was crushed and DemusliM told me that we can go over these games when some time has passed. Its just wrong to call out mistakes of a player right after the games. He will not be able to get something good out of it, because you are just sad/frustrated. I'm sure DemusliM knows he didn't play a 100% tournament and he will analyze and realize his mistakes, but I feel everything you/others write right now can be seen as bashing. No offence to you, but as a player if I would read it, that would come to mind. | ||
Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1171
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1172
On August 03 2012 23:40 DamageControL wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2012 23:38 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:37 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:35 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:34 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:33 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:32 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:30 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:28 DamageControL wrote: On August 03 2012 23:27 DamageControL wrote: [quote] 9:45 Lings + Roach vs a two base from hero, pressuring the nat of suppy. Hero has templar archive but has not used yet. 11:00 Suppy pushes back the attack Robo getting up Suppy droning up, throwing down a spire. 13:30 Heroes third base is up. His blink is done. He has immortals as well. Mutas spotted. Sorry, I'm not doing the best job, this is my first one 17:30 Hero deflecting the mutas pretty easily. Hero has storms, but his warp prism play hasn't been seen as much, mutas are probably making him decide not to go for it. Suppy getting infestors, but hero has many templar. 19:45 Hero pressuring third, supply 170 Hero to 195 of suppy, suppy trading well 20:45 Suppy has 5 bases, quite far ahead. Headed for late game but suppy will have resource advntge. 22:00 Heroes upgrades are quite behind. Hero decides to start an air transition. 24:00 Neural parasite about half done. 180 supply from hero to 199 from suppy. +2 Plasma +1 air upgrades on the way for hero. Hero messes up a drop. Void rays from hero, 5 stargates. 26:00 Both players maxed. Both on 5 bases. Void rays are seen by suppy, spores going up 28:00 Sup has 18 broodlords, suppy trying to take the middle bases, probably to force engages on his terms. Hero putting down more stargates, really committing to air. banks are about 3k each, 70 probes to 50 drones. 30:30 The trading has started, both are hesitant to commit to fights. Void ray count low, hero starts carriers, and take the upper island expo. | ||
Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1173
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1174
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1175
impressive. | ||
Lazzi
Switzerland1923 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1176
On August 03 2012 23:41 sAsImre wrote: Show nested quote + On August 03 2012 23:40 Lazzi wrote: Hero or Federer??? Can't decide, both equally epic! Fed for history ![]() Trying to watch both, so hard , I haven't Hero's multitask. | ||
Optimism
United Kingdom28 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1177
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1178
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imre
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#1179
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dafunk
France521 Posts
August 03 2012 14:43 GMT
#1180
Now he just has no economy and wasnt agressiv enough... | ||
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