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Please everyone, stop the balance whining.

This is the only warning before bans will be handed out, effective page 53.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1141
Nice scout by Suppy seeing all those Voids. Going to come down to the Vortex probably
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-03 14:39:33
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1142
On August 03 2012 23:38 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:37 Slardar wrote:
Yeah now Suppy indeed has learned, has a lot more lings being mobile, and invested in a lot of defense. Now he shouldn't die to HerO's insane Blue Prism assault...... we'll see what happens!


his ability to adapt on fly is really really good. He just totally read Hero on this 5th game.


Indeed, but also HerO now adapting to his weakness of getting slow Carriers. He's adding more Stargates and getting voids instead. This is going to be an intense final battle...... going to come down to that vortex!

GO HERO! THE BLUE PRISM
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1143
YES SCOUTED THE VOIDS
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46200 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1144
Props to DamageControL for doing these LRs ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1145
Hero's last hand has been shown :/
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1146
This match will take quite a while now...
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1147
On August 03 2012 23:32 ZAiNs wrote:
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On August 03 2012 23:29 transcendent one wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:26 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:22 transcendent one wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:20 -shArk- wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:16 gTank wrote:
I cant wait until the mothership gets taken out of the game...


Yeah because than protoss cannot do anything about broodlord/infestor composition and pvz lategame is totally broken.


unless, god forbid there will be like 20 more unit changes, new maps, new abilities, new upgrades. bu tits clear that pvz lategame will be broken

Everything is going to change a lot, but the latest Heart of the Swarm build publicly playable doesn't increase the late-game army strength of Protoss (Carrier replaced by low DPS Tempest, Mothership Vortex only hits ground) but does increase the Zerg's (Ultralisk burrow charge, Viper, and possibly Swarm Host could be good with anti-air Locusts).


On August 03 2012 23:26 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Hey, a bit off "topic".

But I was just wondering, from the last information we got, is the Mothership still going to be in HotS or is it just the Mothership-Core?

After Fleet Beacon you can turn the Core into a Mothership for 300/300 I think. Vortex only affects ground units and it has a new ability called Stasis which puts all air units into stasis for some time.


and did pro player test the balance through out? maybe z lategame is stronger, but p early game/harass is much stronger also. don't balance whine, not because i hate balance whine, but simply because its dumb to worry about something that you know basically nothing about

I'm not balance whining. I think it's pretty clear that nobody wants Zerg late game to be stronger and Protoss early game to be stronger. It will just magnify the current problems with the metagame where Protosses 2 base all-in a lot because they're scared of playing late game. Removing the Mothership won't make things better either.


well i think its a design problem, the matchup will maybe remain stupid but balance from the designers point of view means 50% winrate and bliz will achieve that with mothership core/oracle buffing p early game or harass. the game dynamics will change a lot, with different phases and transitions.


on topic, Hero will lose, he is going mass void ray;)
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1148
Nice, MaNa with more units, more probes and he is the only one who has enough money for a new nexus.
It appears I have been chosen.
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
August 03 2012 14:39 GMT
#1149
Carriers is always a better choice than voids late game imo
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#1150
Big, big scout there. And lol those spores are going to make warp prism harass impossible on that base.
Long live the King of Wings
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#1151
suppy just need to spine/sport push accross the whole map now.
Zest fanboy.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#1152
Why doesn't Suppy attack??? He has a million spines and spores to defend.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#1153
No idea what Hero can do against that many Broods/Spores/Spines./Infestors.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#1154
On August 03 2012 23:38 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:37 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:35 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:34 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:33 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:32 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:30 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:28 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:27 DamageControL wrote:
On August 03 2012 23:26 DamageControL wrote:
[quote]
8:00
Hero throwing up four more gates (I think,sorry new at LR)

Suppy getting quite a few lings


9:45

Lings + Roach vs a two base from hero, pressuring the nat of suppy.

Hero has templar archive but has not used yet.

11:00

Suppy pushes back the attack

Robo getting up

Suppy droning up, throwing down a spire.

13:30

Heroes third base is up. His blink is done. He has immortals as well.

Mutas spotted.

Sorry, I'm not doing the best job, this is my first one

17:30

Hero deflecting the mutas pretty easily. Hero has storms, but his warp prism play hasn't been seen as much, mutas are probably making him decide not to go for it.

Suppy getting infestors, but hero has many templar.

19:45

Hero pressuring third, supply 170 Hero to 195 of suppy, suppy trading well


20:45

Suppy has 5 bases, quite far ahead. Headed for late game but suppy will have resource advntge.

22:00

Heroes upgrades are quite behind. Hero decides to start an air transition.

24:00

Neural parasite about half done.

180 supply from hero to 199 from suppy.

+2 Plasma +1 air upgrades on the way for hero.

Hero messes up a drop. Void rays from hero, 5 stargates.

26:00

Both players maxed. Both on 5 bases. Void rays are seen by suppy, spores going up


28:00

Sup has 18 broodlords, suppy trying to take the middle bases, probably to force engages on his terms.

Hero putting down more stargates, really committing to air. banks are about 3k each, 70 probes to 50 drones.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#1155
Suppy is going to go full dimaga, give him about an hour to get his spines across the map.
Glorious SEA doto
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
August 03 2012 14:40 GMT
#1156
Hero or Federer??? Can't decide, both equally epic!
It's good to be back
Lil Ballz
Profile Joined June 2011
196 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1157
I really want hero to win but just cant see it happening TT
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1158
On August 03 2012 23:38 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 23:38 TeeTS wrote:
♥♥♥ Hero, making Voidrays instead of Carriers. How long did I have to wait for this moment to happen :-)


to see how effective fungal can be ?

Flashback of YongHwa vs Nerchio at homestory cup. All the voidrays die and zerg loses 10 supply.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1159
That hallucination owned those spines
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
August 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#1160
On August 03 2012 23:39 Aeceus wrote:
Carriers is always a better choice than voids late game imo


If you want to commit, you need both alongside archons, HTs and a mothership.
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