On July 24 2012 08:49 Kreb wrote: Had Idra spent his 3k/1.5k on..... pretty much any kind of unit, he wouldve won.
Ya definitely but it was a weird situation where IdrA was saving for BL's but Creator pushed and he couldn't make any roaches as they would have been stomped by Creators army and zerglings were definitely the best choice in that situation. However, zerglings are so larvae expensive that he had no spare larvae to be able to spend his money. Good timing by Creator!
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
yeah but THAT bad ? I know it's ZvT, bo1 and cross-server but come on ... :|
well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
On July 24 2012 08:49 Kreb wrote: Had Idra spent his 3k/1.5k on..... pretty much any kind of unit, he wouldve won.
Yup agreed. He made pure ling which I feel was a bad mistake imagine if he had made all of them roaches with ling support and his infestors he could have held.
He was trying to save money for his brood lord transition, but realized the timing was too dangerous with Creator knocking on his front door.
I know he was saving for broodlords. But when he saw that push and lost his army he should have just remaxed on roach/ling instead of pure ling. He just needed to kill that army and he would have been in a near unlosable situation.
Pure lings was the right choice for sure against immortal/stalker, the problem was he dident watch his larva.
yeah but THAT bad ? I know it's ZvT, bo1 and cross-server but come on ... :|
well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
my favorite part of that rep pack was him losing to Leenock in a macro game, asking for a re, and cheesing him with mass cloaked wraiths.
yeah but THAT bad ? I know it's ZvT, bo1 and cross-server but come on ... :|
well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
On July 24 2012 08:49 Musicus wrote: If Idra spent his money he could've won easily he could've had 10 broodlords even...
He couldn't spend it because he had no larva. On 6 hatches that shouldn't be the case, he must have missed a lot of injects.
Well he was making pure zergling. Making only lings you'd be surprised how quick you can go through them all. Or maybe you wouldn't be surprised, point still stands though.
On July 24 2012 08:48 ZenithM wrote: I'm so mad that IdrA won that game over MKP haha. Not because of balance or whatever, not because I like MKP, not because I dislike IdrA (because I kinda like him too, just not as much :D), not because I'm rooting for Prime and such.
Just because it will somehow give the most fanatic fanboys a reason to say that "Indeed, IdrA was right, MKP is really bad", whereas IdrA is just trolling the entire time. I get that he doens't like MKP's style, but that's probably about it.
Its not half as bad as all the idra hater's coming out and posting senseless crap though.
Maybe I'm so biased I've turned a complete blind eye to it. but honestly besides like 2-3 posts I haven't really seen any Idra haters. for the most part it's people trying to put some perspective on it all, Idra is a decent player but because he beat MKP Does NOT 1)Instantly make him a better player 2)Make MKP a bad player...
on reddit, about 95% of the posts that say anything remotely positive about idra have been downvoted. Example: "gogo Idra! <3" downvoted "i'm not gonna lie, i was 100% impressed with idras play. it's been a long time since i've felt that way too, and it feels good being an idra fan since the beta." downvoted
On July 24 2012 02:58 antilyon wrote: MKP will finally smash IdrA for all the trash talking.
On July 24 2012 05:40 IdrA wrote: [quote] well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
On July 24 2012 02:58 antilyon wrote: MKP will finally smash IdrA for all the trash talking.
On July 24 2012 05:40 IdrA wrote: [quote] well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
So, being a B-Teamer automatically didn't make him the best foreigner? That's such an ignorant statement. Right dude, like beating yellow 2-0 at Blizzcon 2008 wasn't a big deal?
On July 24 2012 08:48 ZenithM wrote: I'm so mad that IdrA won that game over MKP haha. Not because of balance or whatever, not because I like MKP, not because I dislike IdrA (because I kinda like him too, just not as much :D), not because I'm rooting for Prime and such.
Just because it will somehow give the most fanatic fanboys a reason to say that "Indeed, IdrA was right, MKP is really bad", whereas IdrA is just trolling the entire time. I get that he doens't like MKP's style, but that's probably about it.
Its not half as bad as all the idra hater's coming out and posting senseless crap though.
Maybe I'm so biased I've turned a complete blind eye to it. but honestly besides like 2-3 posts I haven't really seen any Idra haters. for the most part it's people trying to put some perspective on it all, Idra is a decent player but because he beat MKP Does NOT 1)Instantly make him a better player 2)Make MKP a bad player...
on reddit, about 95% of the posts that say anything remotely positive about idra have been downvoted. Example: "gogo Idra! <3" downvoted "i'm not gonna lie, i was 100% impressed with idras play. it's been a long time since i've felt that way too, and it feels good being an idra fan since the beta." downvoted
yeah but THAT bad ? I know it's ZvT, bo1 and cross-server but come on ... :|
well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
EPT
Good timing by Creator!
he could've had 10 broodlords even...
