On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
On July 24 2012 08:48 ZenithM wrote: I'm so mad that IdrA won that game over MKP haha. Not because of balance or whatever, not because I like MKP, not because I dislike IdrA (because I kinda like him too, just not as much :D), not because I'm rooting for Prime and such.
Just because it will somehow give the most fanatic fanboys a reason to say that "Indeed, IdrA was right, MKP is really bad", whereas IdrA is just trolling the entire time. I get that he doens't like MKP's style, but that's probably about it.
Its not half as bad as all the idra hater's coming out and posting senseless crap though.
Maybe I'm so biased I've turned a complete blind eye to it. but honestly besides like 2-3 posts I haven't really seen any Idra haters. for the most part it's people trying to put some perspective on it all, Idra is a decent player but because he beat MKP Does NOT 1)Instantly make him a better player 2)Make MKP a bad player...
on reddit, about 95% of the posts that say anything remotely positive about idra have been downvoted. Example: "gogo Idra! <3" downvoted "i'm not gonna lie, i was 100% impressed with idras play. it's been a long time since i've felt that way too, and it feels good being an idra fan since the beta." downvoted
yeah but THAT bad ? I know it's ZvT, bo1 and cross-server but come on ... :|
well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
I was kinda alright with your comment until I saw Demuslim's name. Are you serious? Can you tell what do you see in Demuslim that's better than MKP? I mean, I know MKP is not at his best but come on now... http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1589_DeMusliM/games Man I'm probably just getting trolled because you didn't even spell Taeja right but heh...
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
my favorite part of that rep pack was him losing to Leenock in a macro game, asking for a re, and cheesing him with mass cloaked wraiths.
Lmao, it's even funnier when you realize leenock was probably like 12 back then.
On July 24 2012 08:48 ZenithM wrote: I'm so mad that IdrA won that game over MKP haha. Not because of balance or whatever, not because I like MKP, not because I dislike IdrA (because I kinda like him too, just not as much :D), not because I'm rooting for Prime and such.
Just because it will somehow give the most fanatic fanboys a reason to say that "Indeed, IdrA was right, MKP is really bad", whereas IdrA is just trolling the entire time. I get that he doens't like MKP's style, but that's probably about it.
Its not half as bad as all the idra hater's coming out and posting senseless crap though.
Maybe I'm so biased I've turned a complete blind eye to it. but honestly besides like 2-3 posts I haven't really seen any Idra haters. for the most part it's people trying to put some perspective on it all, Idra is a decent player but because he beat MKP Does NOT 1)Instantly make him a better player 2)Make MKP a bad player...
on reddit, about 95% of the posts that say anything remotely positive about idra have been downvoted. Example: "gogo Idra! <3" downvoted "i'm not gonna lie, i was 100% impressed with idras play. it's been a long time since i've felt that way too, and it feels good being an idra fan since the beta." downvoted
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
which wasn't even anything impressive at that time, since he was the only one playing the game fulltime and the game was just a hobby for all the other gamers.
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
Demuslim nowhere near MKP level.
This is the joke > - _ < and that is your head.
Nonono, that's not a joke Just wait and see... MKP<Idra<Creator<DeMuslim!
On July 24 2012 08:44 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: idra all-kills and the whole interweb goes down forever.
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
yeah but THAT bad ? I know it's ZvT, bo1 and cross-server but come on ... :|
well he is pretty fuckin bad
Should I post 2012 Winrates or overall player results?
You choose IdrA fans.
haha, go ahead, you are still a hater who got proven wrong :D
A bo1 on cross servers doesn't exactly prove jack shit. It was well played by Idra I'm not saying it wasn't but LOL if you think this game proves anything about Idra vs MKP
it proves idra can beat a top 4 terran
1) MKP isn't really a top 4 terran any more imo 2) its a bo1 3) its cross server
mkp is definitely a top 4 terran
MVP, Teaja, Jjakji, DeMuslim... you see, I named 4better ones
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
weird question, but why is Nony in the category of rare players like Ret, isn't he much more of a Machine or Incontrol as someone good at BW but not SC2?
On July 24 2012 08:48 ZenithM wrote: I'm so mad that IdrA won that game over MKP haha. Not because of balance or whatever, not because I like MKP, not because I dislike IdrA (because I kinda like him too, just not as much :D), not because I'm rooting for Prime and such.
Just because it will somehow give the most fanatic fanboys a reason to say that "Indeed, IdrA was right, MKP is really bad", whereas IdrA is just trolling the entire time. I get that he doens't like MKP's style, but that's probably about it.
Its not half as bad as all the idra hater's coming out and posting senseless crap though.
Maybe I'm so biased I've turned a complete blind eye to it. but honestly besides like 2-3 posts I haven't really seen any Idra haters. for the most part it's people trying to put some perspective on it all, Idra is a decent player but because he beat MKP Does NOT 1)Instantly make him a better player 2)Make MKP a bad player...
on reddit, about 95% of the posts that say anything remotely positive about idra have been downvoted. Example: "gogo Idra! <3" downvoted "i'm not gonna lie, i was 100% impressed with idras play. it's been a long time since i've felt that way too, and it feels good being an idra fan since the beta." downvoted
reddit =/= TL?
"zerg is definitely OP if Idra can take them MKP but it seems like MKP not really playing seriously...." "lol idra vs mkp, i wonder whos going to win." "MKP will finally smash IdrA for all the trash talking." "How is that possible that MKP loses to IdrA? -_- (if the people who tried to spoil the results are right) No faith in sc2 anymore seriously LOL. It's cross server but still." "idra is still terrible"
On July 24 2012 08:47 Shadowpostin wrote: [quote] Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
weird question, but why is Nony in the category of rare players like Ret, isn't he much more of a Machine or Incontrol as someone good at BW but not SC2?
On July 24 2012 08:49 Musicus wrote: If Idra spent his money he could've won easily he could've had 10 broodlords even...
He couldn't spend it because he had no larva. On 6 hatches that shouldn't be the case, he must have missed a lot of injects.
Well he was making pure zergling. Making only lings you'd be surprised how quick you can go through them all. Or maybe you wouldn't be surprised, point still stands though.
With 6 hatches you have 24 larva per round of injects and considering how long he waited for Broods on 160~ supply he should have been banking a lot of larva if he hit every inject. I flicked over to his stream the other day and noticed his injects were really lacklustre in the late-game (in that ZvP vs Stephano) so it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case here.
Jesus, Demuslim chill out on the Vikings, I thought he saw just that one Colossus? Or is he confident his ground army can beat Creator's without the Vikings and just wants to cover the Colossus switch?...
Idra was the best arguably the best foreigner on brood war. I don't understand why you just made such a dramatic comment.
Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
Being the best tennis player in your county is impressive even if you're not even close to the best player in the country
On July 24 2012 08:47 Shadowpostin wrote: [quote] Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
weird question, but why is Nony in the category of rare players like Ret, isn't he much more of a Machine or Incontrol as someone good at BW but not SC2?
no, he was talking about 2009/2010 foreign BW scene, in which Nony was good, but Machine and Incontrol were not that good.
On July 24 2012 08:47 Shadowpostin wrote: [quote] Because we are clearly watching him play BW right now.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
weird question, but why is Nony in the category of rare players like Ret, isn't he much more of a Machine or Incontrol as someone good at BW but not SC2?
I'm talking about purely based on BW skill, Ret and Nony were up there as best foreigners. Nony was probably better than all of them.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
weird question, but why is Nony in the category of rare players like Ret, isn't he much more of a Machine or Incontrol as someone good at BW but not SC2?
Nony wears a blue shirt rather than a black one.
Thats what I was thinking yeah, but I didn't want to say it outright.
EPT
he could've had 10 broodlords even...
