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JimPanzer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany339 Posts
July 21 2012 21:36 GMT
#2341
will the show the stephano - ryung game on the main stream?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 21 2012 21:36 GMT
#2342
On July 22 2012 06:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
oh shit First is smashing out Terrans in the LB! 2-0 Top and now 2-0 Puma

wow so stronk
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Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
July 21 2012 21:36 GMT
#2343
On July 22 2012 06:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
oh shit First is smashing out Terrans in the LB! 2-0 Top and now 2-0 Puma

FUCK YEAH GO FIRST!

Shame they haven't streamed any of his games yet
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 21:38:01
July 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#2344
On July 22 2012 06:36 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:34 Ammanas wrote:
btw, Summer Championship pool play (if I am counting right):

-14 Koreans (among others - Oz, Hero, Alicia, Puma, Alive, Losira, Violet...)
-Stephano
- MOTHERFING GOODY!!!



LOL. Goody is awesome. Who ever would have thought he'd do so well here? Crazy. He stopped going mech in TvP, but still Mechs in TvT and TvZ correct?


I'm pretty sure I've even seen him mix in marine/tank vs zerg lately but I might be mixing him up with someone else.

===

First looks like he's adjusted well on day 2.

Expected him to crush guys like TOP and Puma so his loss on day 1 was a big surprise.
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
July 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#2345
On July 22 2012 06:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Stephano is way better than Thorzain to be fair. Thorzain's never even been close to the top 10 in the world.

I think Stephano could do really well in Code S, but he could also go out in Round 1 just like MC, MVP, DRG and MKP have done in the past.


When you publically announce that you dont study replays and just play reactionary with pretty much 1 style you'll get ripped apart in GSL. He'd just sit around and ladder while all his opponents will have practice partners playing his exact style while ramming every build possible into it and seeing what works and where every hole in his timings are.

These brackets formats that foreign tournaments use are a different situation than GSL. Brackets like MLG are just grind out games. GSL its practice bashing builds against your opponents styles and finding what works with alot of time to do so inbetween rounds. Round 1 knock out and being knocked straight into Code B seems like the obvious as of right now.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#2346
Oh god alive's been kidnapped by revival for betraying coach lee.
Glorious SEA doto
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#2347
On July 22 2012 06:35 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:34 Ammanas wrote:
btw, Summer Championship pool play (if I am counting right):

-14 Koreans (among others - Oz, Hero, Alicia, Puma, Alive, Losira, Violet...)
-Stephano
- MOTHERFING GOODY!!!


I don't know how Goody has made it. When I hear his name I just think of 5 factories with the queues filled with tanks, while reacting clumsily to attacks.

then winning

Hey hey. He might queue up a tank or 5, but he never reacts clumsily to attacks. He wouldn't win win mech that way.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
July 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#2348
I only got Hero and Step to root for now.
This sucks cause they will have to face eachotehr if they win their matches. :/
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2012-summerarena-starcraft2.html
We Live to Die
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 21 2012 21:37 GMT
#2349
YES!

First beats Puma! :D So happy
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 21 2012 21:38 GMT
#2350
On July 22 2012 06:33 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano
I should have won this match, im sorry i just played bad


Refreshing to see a prominent foreign Zerg player react to losses in a constructive way, instead of calling everything "silly".
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2351
On July 22 2012 06:36 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:34 Ammanas wrote:
btw, Summer Championship pool play (if I am counting right):

-14 Koreans (among others - Oz, Hero, Alicia, Puma, Alive, Losira, Violet...)
-Stephano
- MOTHERFING GOODY!!!



LOL. Goody is awesome. Who ever would have thought he'd do so well here? Crazy. He stopped going mech in TvP, but still Mechs in TvT and TvZ correct?

I've seen him play bio in vZ recently also. THe zeg players have gotten too good at building roaches and dropping against mech - just ask MVP ^^
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2352
sigh puma what has happened to u
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2353
On July 22 2012 06:38 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:33 m0ck wrote:
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano
I should have won this match, im sorry i just played bad


Refreshing to see a prominent foreign Zerg player react to losses in a constructive way, instead of calling everything "silly".

Your favorite team is EG, I thought that was kinda funny
"Expert" mods4ever.com
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2354
On July 22 2012 06:37 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:35 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:34 Ammanas wrote:
btw, Summer Championship pool play (if I am counting right):

-14 Koreans (among others - Oz, Hero, Alicia, Puma, Alive, Losira, Violet...)
-Stephano
- MOTHERFING GOODY!!!


I don't know how Goody has made it. When I hear his name I just think of 5 factories with the queues filled with tanks, while reacting clumsily to attacks.

then winning

Hey hey. He might queue up a tank or 5, but he never reacts clumsily to attacks. He wouldn't win win mech that way.


Goody vs Dimaga at homestory cup. It was almost sad to see
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2355
On July 22 2012 06:31 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:30 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:30 opterown wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:28 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:25 opterown wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:23 opterown wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:20 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:18 nkr wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:16 opterown wrote:
we should do something like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unofficial_Football_World_Championships
for the title of 'best sc2 player'

only matches broadcasted live at LAN events only though =]


Could start with the winner of the WCS

We need to do this retroactively starting with the winner of the first gsl fruitdealer.

fruitdealer
marineking
rain
mc
and more on

oops missed nestea in between mkp and rain


If you're going by GSL winners then MKP doesn't belong there

FD won GSL open season 1 -> world champion
mkp beat FD in open season 2 -> unofficial world champ
nestea beat mkp -> 3rd world champion
rain beat nestea -> 4th world champ
mc beat rain -> 5th world champ

so on =]

televised live lan matches only :D


Ok, ok, I see. So at one point Jinro was the best player in the world! :D

haha maybe, will have to go through and check everything properly
might do a compilation if i'm bored sometime~


Also, at one point Goody was the best player in the world, beating Nestea in TSL3. But it was online So, maybe when he beat MMA 2-0 in the losers bracket at Spring Arena 2 XD? MMA was in a bit of a slump though
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
aruken
Profile Joined March 2011
France348 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2356
its been a while without seeing Losira isn't it?
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2357
On July 22 2012 06:31 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:26 Toadvine wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:19 Azarkon wrote:
It comes down to the map pool for why Oz was able to get away with what he got away with.

Antiga -> Cloud Kingdom -> Daybreak, no loser's pick. Three great maps for macro Protoss play, no Shakuras / Tal'Darim till the 6th and 7th maps.

A lot of these match ups come down to map choice for what strategies players exploit. Oz has got a great map pool for his sort of play, and I think Antiga is the one map where Stephano has a better grasp of because it's his favorite map. Daybreak, from his NASL results, was a Protoss win each time he played it.

NASL was the opposite.

This tournament, I think, is going to be won by a Protoss.


Antiga is an awful map for macro PvZ, no idea why anyone would think otherwise. It's really hard to take a 4th, and if Zerg takes theirs in another main, it's very hard to push it without being extremely vulnerable to a counterattack. Broodlords own the center in the lategame, and it's really easy for Zerg to deny Protoss bases with that as a staging ground. There's a reason MC almost always all-ins on Antiga.

In any case, I don't really get how the maps being balanced and reasonable figures into anything. Shakuras/TDA are just bad, and shouldn't be in the pool at all. :/


It's easy for Protoss to take a third on Antiga, and from there you have to contest the center, obviously. MLG's version of Antiga isn't a decent map because they put extra mineral bases at the center when it's already a very important location, making the entire game a wrestle over the center 4th. But, at the same time, Zerg doesn't have an easier time taking a 4th provided that you control the center. The game does play into fast three base styles, which is what Oz loves. I feel that Oz's play style is dependent on getting a fast third and that this is his advantage over Stephano on maps that allow Protoss to do so.

But yes, Stephano loves Antiga too and I don't think it's a bad map for him. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak, though, aren't great maps for him these days.


It's not easy for Protoss to take a third on Antiga. It's actually harder there than on any other modern map (barring something like GSL Whirlwind). Stephano always picks Antiga against Protoss, because his roach/ling max is so good on it. You are right that the only way to macro PvZ there is to do a 3 base timing, but I don't think it's especially good for it - Cloud Kingdom makes for better 3 base timings, imo, because of the lowground 4th, as does Entombed Valley. Which was the second map, not Cloud Kingdom. You can actually make an argument that Entombed is a good PvZ map, but I don't think you can do it for Daybreak.

At the very least, this series was way less defined by maps than Stephano vs MC @ NASL, with Bel'shir and Shakuras.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 21:40:36
July 21 2012 21:39 GMT
#2358
I've seen Goody play bio in vZ recently also. The zerg players have gotten too good at building roaches and dropping against mech - just ask MVP ^^
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 21 2012 21:40 GMT
#2359
On July 22 2012 06:39 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:36 Havik_ wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:34 Ammanas wrote:
btw, Summer Championship pool play (if I am counting right):

-14 Koreans (among others - Oz, Hero, Alicia, Puma, Alive, Losira, Violet...)
-Stephano
- MOTHERFING GOODY!!!



LOL. Goody is awesome. Who ever would have thought he'd do so well here? Crazy. He stopped going mech in TvP, but still Mechs in TvT and TvZ correct?

I've seen him play bio in vZ recently also. THe zeg players have gotten too good at building roaches and dropping against mech - just ask MVP ^^

Nah, Mvp's mech is still fine.(just not against Symbol) Have you seen his OSL games?
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 21 2012 21:40 GMT
#2360
On July 22 2012 06:39 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 06:38 yeint wrote:
On July 22 2012 06:33 m0ck wrote:
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano
I should have won this match, im sorry i just played bad


Refreshing to see a prominent foreign Zerg player react to losses in a constructive way, instead of calling everything "silly".

Your favorite team is EG, I thought that was kinda funny


Doesn't mean I like everyone on the team
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
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