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On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat.
Are you serious?
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On July 22 2012 06:41 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:On July 22 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
YES!
First beats Puma! :D So happy It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat. Lol First has a very good chance of winning. I don't think he will but he is easily a top 5 player at this tournament.
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As if. I bet he fails his next round hard: 2-0
No way he will make it past.
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They need to cast some games of first looking good beating puma and top 2-0 looking at his Liquipedia page he's beat coca to take a gold in EWM Season 3 Week 7. never really heard of him.
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On July 22 2012 06:42 Big J wrote:
I wanna watch goody on stream 1... who cares about Losira vs Alive. You can see that every Code A season. But when can you see 50mins of tankplay?
World of Tanks stream.
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Ultimate faux- pseudo- awkward awesomeness between DayPollo
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On July 22 2012 06:42 paintfive wrote:
my predictions:
Goody 2-1 GanZi
Goody 2-1 aLive
Goody 2-0 LosirA
Goody 2-0 Taeja to win the bottom bracket finals.
GoOdy has to play against Daisy first, after that against aLive/Losira. GanZi playes against First
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On July 22 2012 06:43 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:41 JJH777 wrote:On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:On July 22 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
YES!
First beats Puma! :D So happy It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat. Lol First has a very good chance of winning. I don't think he will but he is easily a top 5 player at this tournament. HAHHHAHAHAHAHHA AHhahahaha hHAHAHAHAHAHAAH hhahahahaha As if. I bet he fails his next round hard: 2-0 No way he will make it past.
Guess what Puma's chance of winning is.
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On July 22 2012 06:42 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:On July 22 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
YES!
First beats Puma! :D So happy It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat. Because being a new guy means you can't do well in tourneys
Yeah, just ask Seed. Not exactly new but he's a Code S newbie relative to many other people.
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On July 22 2012 06:42 Type|NarutO wrote:
First vs GanZi next - could be his next win
2-0ing puma definitely shows that his PvT aint nuthing to fuck with, lets see if Ganzi has any rebuttal.
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On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat.
Puma couldn't beat first, first has no chance of winning MLG therefore shouldn't puma have no chance of winning of winning mlg himself?
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First is doing really good lately.
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common, goody. we have faith!!
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On July 22 2012 06:39 Toadvine wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:31 Azarkon wrote:On July 22 2012 06:26 Toadvine wrote:On July 22 2012 06:19 Azarkon wrote:
It comes down to the map pool for why Oz was able to get away with what he got away with.
Antiga -> Cloud Kingdom -> Daybreak, no loser's pick. Three great maps for macro Protoss play, no Shakuras / Tal'Darim till the 6th and 7th maps.
A lot of these match ups come down to map choice for what strategies players exploit. Oz has got a great map pool for his sort of play, and I think Antiga is the one map where Stephano has a better grasp of because it's his favorite map. Daybreak, from his NASL results, was a Protoss win each time he played it.
NASL was the opposite.
This tournament, I think, is going to be won by a Protoss. Antiga is an awful map for macro PvZ, no idea why anyone would think otherwise. It's really hard to take a 4th, and if Zerg takes theirs in another main, it's very hard to push it without being extremely vulnerable to a counterattack. Broodlords own the center in the lategame, and it's really easy for Zerg to deny Protoss bases with that as a staging ground. There's a reason MC almost always all-ins on Antiga. In any case, I don't really get how the maps being balanced and reasonable figures into anything. Shakuras/TDA are just bad, and shouldn't be in the pool at all. :/ It's easy for Protoss to take a third on Antiga, and from there you have to contest the center, obviously. MLG's version of Antiga isn't a decent map because they put extra mineral bases at the center when it's already a very important location, making the entire game a wrestle over the center 4th. But, at the same time, Zerg doesn't have an easier time taking a 4th provided that you control the center. The game does play into fast three base styles, which is what Oz loves. I feel that Oz's play style is dependent on getting a fast third and that this is his advantage over Stephano on maps that allow Protoss to do so. But yes, Stephano loves Antiga too and I don't think it's a bad map for him. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak, though, aren't great maps for him these days. It's not easy for Protoss to take a third on Antiga. It's actually harder there than on any other modern map (barring something like GSL Whirlwind). Stephano always picks Antiga against Protoss, because his roach/ling max is so good on it. You are right that the only way to macro PvZ there is to do a 3 base timing, but I don't think it's especially good for it - Cloud Kingdom makes for better 3 base timings, imo, because of the lowground 4th, as does Entombed Valley. Which was the second map, not Cloud Kingdom. You can actually make an argument that Entombed is a good PvZ map, but I don't think you can do it for Daybreak. At the very least, this series was way less defined by maps than Stephano vs MC @ NASL, with Bel'shir and Shakuras.
Yeah, I don't know why I said Cloud Kingdom. Entombed was the second map, and that is an excellent PvZ map by all accounts.
Daybreak is a great PvZ map for Korean Protosses vs. Stephano because taking 3-4 bases vs. Zerg isn't that hard on that map and it's by far the best practiced map out there for defending vs. three base roach ling play, given that Zergs used to do it every single game on that map.
Stephano lost against both HerO and MC on Daybreak. I think it's a bad map for him and that Korean Protosses understand it very well - way better than NA / EU Zergs.
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On July 22 2012 06:43 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:42 Big J wrote:
I wanna watch goody on stream 1... who cares about Losira vs Alive. You can see that every Code A season. But when can you see 50mins of tankplay? World of Tanks stream.
This wins the thread.
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On July 22 2012 06:42 Big J wrote:
I wanna watch goody on stream 1... who cares about Losira vs Alive. You can see that every Code A season. But when can you see 50mins of tankplay?
He played straight bio against Welmu though.
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On July 22 2012 06:43 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:41 Primal666 wrote:On July 22 2012 06:39 Die4Ever wrote:On July 22 2012 06:38 yeint wrote:On July 22 2012 06:33 m0ck wrote:MillStephano @MillStephano
I should have won this match, im sorry i just played bad Refreshing to see a prominent foreign Zerg player react to losses in a constructive way, instead of calling everything "silly". Your favorite team is EG, I thought that was kinda funny fun fact: EG consists of more than just idra. wait really? wtf do they need more players than Idra for?
commercial breaks
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On July 22 2012 06:43 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:41 JJH777 wrote:On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:On July 22 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
YES!
First beats Puma! :D So happy It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat. Lol First has a very good chance of winning. I don't think he will but he is easily a top 5 player at this tournament. HAHHHAHAHAHAHHA AHhahahaha hHAHAHAHAHAHAAH hhahahahaha As if. I bet he fails his next round hard: 2-0 No way he will make it past.
your sense of humour (and reality at that) is incredible
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On July 22 2012 06:41 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:On July 22 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
YES!
First beats Puma! :D So happy It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat. Lol First has a very good chance of winning. I don't think he will but he is easily a top 5 player at this tournament.
Beter than Hero,Alive,Losira,Oz,Alicia,Stephano,Teaja,Violet???
I can't see him being top 5
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On July 22 2012 06:43 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:41 JJH777 wrote:On July 22 2012 06:40 SayGen wrote:On July 22 2012 06:37 Fragile51 wrote:
YES!
First beats Puma! :D So happy It's shame cause Puma is a champion and First is a nobody who has no chance of winning MLG. One thing to lose to a winner, but to lose to someone who has no chance--it msut be very fustrating for puma. Hopefully he will perform better in the future. 2 time NASL winner, isn't an easy feat. Lol First has a very good chance of winning. I don't think he will but he is easily a top 5 player at this tournament. HAHHHAHAHAHAHHA AHhahahaha hHAHAHAHAHAHAAH hhahahahaha As if. I bet he fails his next round hard: 2-0 No way he will make it past.
You in all your infinite knowledge must've given First a 0% chance of beating Puma too, right?
Puma is one of my favourite players but give credit where credit is due, now I only wish I got to see the game...
Not saying First has a better chance than Puma had Puma won, but to say he has no chance? He's beaten some top level competition here.
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On July 22 2012 06:36 Talionis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 06:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
oh shit First is smashing out Terrans in the LB! 2-0 Top and now 2-0 Puma FUCK YEAH GO FIRST! Shame they haven't streamed any of his games yet 
First and Losira man wrecking TAC3 and MLG in the name of IM. I'm actually uber exicted ofr the championships now since First is bound to get at least a couple games aired then.. right?
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