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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
July 18 2012 00:08 GMT
#101
On July 18 2012 08:52 Kamwah wrote:
Mules don't save you past the early game unless you have like 3-4 OC. Still doesn't save you for gas.

People these days, have to jump on someone as soon as they say something they disagree with.

Well Miya should have had more, not sure why he didn't.


First of all sorry, I say dumb and aggressive stuff in LRs after a stressful day of work.

True about the not saving for gas, but 3 OC's by that point in the game isn't unheard of, and also Terran's losing gas mining doesn't hurt them as much due to being able to just throw more money into marines if necessary. Not always ideal of course, but never an absolutely horrible idea either.

In any case, sorry again. I sometimes read the things I write in these and I'm like man what is with me?

Enjoy the games
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 18 2012 00:09 GMT
#102
On July 18 2012 09:06 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 09:03 MCDayC wrote:
I stil love Archon toilets! They're fucking awesome, now that Zergs have figured out how to beat them most of the time (DRG, Stephano etc just pre split the boords) that explosion never gets old for me.


Archon toilets are pretty cool, especially back in the earlier days when they were a novelty. Back then, it was basically one of those "troll" builds on ladder, but when guys like Kiwikaki started doing them in pro matches, shit got real.

If you think about it, Archon toilets are pretty cool because it utilizes the synergy of two of the most powerful units of the Protoss army. Nowadays people complain because it happens so often in late-game PvZ, which causes it to lose the novelty effect.

People don't complain because of how often it happens, they complain because the archon toilet defines and outlines the whole pace and development of late game PvZ, and because it usually is the end-game move, as in, a successful archon toilet instantly ends the game, which is pretty lame, particularly considering some protoss will turtle the whole game and go directly into archon toilet, which is REALLY boring to watch.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
July 18 2012 00:11 GMT
#103
Roster of Slayers, had to spoiler it because its huge. So huge its NFSW

+ Show Spoiler +
SlayerS
BoxeR
Clide
Lots
MMA
Ryung
Eve
Milz
Alicia
Brown
Crank
Puzzle
SengKun
Ven
Frozen
Kuma
Cella
CoCa
Min
Miya
YuGiOh
Drak
월요 날 재미있
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
July 18 2012 00:13 GMT
#104
On July 18 2012 09:03 Seiferz wrote:
ret>puzzle at nasl

but this was a week before nasl..so who knows


That cancel nexus in game 1 of their series in NASL showed a lot of respect (perhaps maybe too much actually) for Ret by puzzle. Most would just 2 base immortal sentry all in the foreign zerg. Think that points towards Ret winning this, though perhaps it was a sign that Puzzle thought he could just "cheese" (not sure if cancelling the third really counts as cheese). That's all speculation tho.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
July 18 2012 00:13 GMT
#105
On July 18 2012 09:11 Loxley wrote:
Roster of Slayers, had to spoiler it because its huge. So huge its NFSW

+ Show Spoiler +
SlayerS
BoxeR
Clide
Lots
MMA
Ryung
Eve
Milz
Alicia
Brown
Crank
Puzzle
SengKun
Ven
Frozen
Kuma
Cella
CoCa
Min
Miya
YuGiOh
Drak

It's "Not For Safe Work?"
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Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
July 18 2012 00:14 GMT
#106
On July 18 2012 09:08 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 08:52 Kamwah wrote:
Mules don't save you past the early game unless you have like 3-4 OC. Still doesn't save you for gas.

People these days, have to jump on someone as soon as they say something they disagree with.

Well Miya should have had more, not sure why he didn't.


First of all sorry, I say dumb and aggressive stuff in LRs after a stressful day of work.

True about the not saving for gas, but 3 OC's by that point in the game isn't unheard of, and also Terran's losing gas mining doesn't hurt them as much due to being able to just throw more money into marines if necessary. Not always ideal of course, but never an absolutely horrible idea either.

In any case, sorry again. I sometimes read the things I write in these and I'm like man what is with me?

Enjoy the games


Wow, I didn't realize people who apologized were still on here and posted XD

NP man. <3
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 18 2012 00:15 GMT
#107
Damn this map and its insane middle base. I still don't understand why its there, especially when mappers had the huge discussion about Barrin's FRB. That thing runs completely against the idea of spreading armies out across the map rather than just holding onto a base and thats it.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 18 2012 00:15 GMT
#108
Is it just me or does Puzzle actually look ridiculously good? Those forcefields are impeccable.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 18 2012 00:15 GMT
#109
On July 18 2012 09:09 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 09:06 Bagration wrote:
On July 18 2012 09:03 MCDayC wrote:
I stil love Archon toilets! They're fucking awesome, now that Zergs have figured out how to beat them most of the time (DRG, Stephano etc just pre split the boords) that explosion never gets old for me.


Archon toilets are pretty cool, especially back in the earlier days when they were a novelty. Back then, it was basically one of those "troll" builds on ladder, but when guys like Kiwikaki started doing them in pro matches, shit got real.

If you think about it, Archon toilets are pretty cool because it utilizes the synergy of two of the most powerful units of the Protoss army. Nowadays people complain because it happens so often in late-game PvZ, which causes it to lose the novelty effect.

People don't complain because of how often it happens, they complain because the archon toilet defines and outlines the whole pace and development of late game PvZ, and because it usually is the end-game move, as in, a successful archon toilet instantly ends the game, which is pretty lame, particularly considering some protoss will turtle the whole game and go directly into archon toilet, which is REALLY boring to watch.


In regards to that, and I don't want to sound incredibly unsympathetic to Zergs out there, but there are ways to counter the toilet. Pre-splitting the deathball, or the infested terran trick once the vortex is dropped are just two that come to mind.

But I guess that is just me personally. Whenever the mothership and archon combo is out, the game tension increases as you wonder if the Protoss will get that clutch toilet or miss and get overrun by the Zerg. It's kind of like a hail-mary play, and I understand why people would dislike it as part of the meta-game.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
July 18 2012 00:16 GMT
#110
Looks like Puzzle has finally got over the Ret curse.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
July 18 2012 00:16 GMT
#111
W00T, SlayerS SlayerS.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 18 2012 00:16 GMT
#112
On July 18 2012 09:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Looks like Puzzle has finally got over the Ret curse.

Those games were played before NASL finals right?
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 18 2012 00:17 GMT
#113
On July 18 2012 09:16 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Looks like Puzzle has finally got over the Ret curse.

Game was played before NASL. How puzzle managed to lose that is beyond me.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27454 Posts
July 18 2012 00:17 GMT
#114
On July 18 2012 09:15 ZenithM wrote:
Is it just me or does Puzzle actually look ridiculously good? Those forcefields are impeccable.

Puzzle for me is probably the most solid Protoss out there, maybe not the absolute best but he's just pretty damn good at everything.

Ret confuses me, he's so mechanically sound but some of the stuff he does blows my mind, next game should be good Taeja is coming out!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 18 2012 00:17 GMT
#115
puzzle has sick PvT, sending taeja out here was definitely a risk but a necessary one
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
July 18 2012 00:18 GMT
#116
On July 18 2012 09:15 ZenithM wrote:
Is it just me or does Puzzle actually look ridiculously good? Those forcefields are impeccable.


puzzle is probably top 3 protoss, solid in all 3 matchups but he plays ridiculously standard, that's why he's so underrated, no flair
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 00:19:22
July 18 2012 00:18 GMT
#117
sigh that was just a sad game...again despite being really behind puzzle takes another pvz
Try another route paperboy.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 18 2012 00:18 GMT
#118
On July 18 2012 09:15 ZenithM wrote:
Is it just me or does Puzzle actually look ridiculously good? Those forcefields are impeccable.


No, he's actually really good :p

Fun fact: As you all know, MC is the only Protoss Code S champion. But Puzzle is the only Protoss Code A champion in history, and will likely remain so for all of Starcraft 2 history. Of course Code S is far superior to Code A, but it just goes to show:

MC = President
Puzzle = Code A Vice President
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 18 2012 00:19 GMT
#119
On July 18 2012 09:15 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 09:09 mordk wrote:
On July 18 2012 09:06 Bagration wrote:
On July 18 2012 09:03 MCDayC wrote:
I stil love Archon toilets! They're fucking awesome, now that Zergs have figured out how to beat them most of the time (DRG, Stephano etc just pre split the boords) that explosion never gets old for me.


Archon toilets are pretty cool, especially back in the earlier days when they were a novelty. Back then, it was basically one of those "troll" builds on ladder, but when guys like Kiwikaki started doing them in pro matches, shit got real.

If you think about it, Archon toilets are pretty cool because it utilizes the synergy of two of the most powerful units of the Protoss army. Nowadays people complain because it happens so often in late-game PvZ, which causes it to lose the novelty effect.

People don't complain because of how often it happens, they complain because the archon toilet defines and outlines the whole pace and development of late game PvZ, and because it usually is the end-game move, as in, a successful archon toilet instantly ends the game, which is pretty lame, particularly considering some protoss will turtle the whole game and go directly into archon toilet, which is REALLY boring to watch.


In regards to that, and I don't want to sound incredibly unsympathetic to Zergs out there, but there are ways to counter the toilet. Pre-splitting the deathball, or the infested terran trick once the vortex is dropped are just two that come to mind.

But I guess that is just me personally. Whenever the mothership and archon combo is out, the game tension increases as you wonder if the Protoss will get that clutch toilet or miss and get overrun by the Zerg. It's kind of like a hail-mary play, and I understand why people would dislike it as part of the meta-game.

I don't play Zerg or Protoss and have no complaints about counters or balance or whatever, I just think it's fucking boring to watch the turtle fest into one spell insta-gg.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
terranuapart
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada67 Posts
July 18 2012 00:19 GMT
#120
hmm too bad rets army control is non existant.. his results would be so much better
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