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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 14 2012 07:50 GMT
#701
On July 14 2012 16:48 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 16:45 valium wrote:
when you are ahead, build ultras and lose.

never has a lame joke been so true


well, then don't build them. Every zerg says they are shit. Their own fault if they still build them. There are alternatives...


Tbh ultras were bad but now of days I don't think they are. I don't really see zergs complaining about them being bad anymore either. I don't think they are as strong as bl/corruptor/infestor obviously but still pretty strong. I do think eventually you will want to transition into broodlords but they definitely aren't bad ^^ (except for zvp they are bad, have a small window where they are pretty good I feel in a normal game then need to switch out of them or you will lose)
When I think of something else, something will go here
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 14 2012 07:50 GMT
#702
On July 14 2012 16:48 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 16:46 Big J wrote:
On July 14 2012 16:42 Scrubwave wrote:
Amazing Jjakji, though it's disgusting to see how much better the terran has to play to win a tvz. Drops, splits, micro, all this while whale a moves after a moving.


bla bla bla... Whale outplayed him early, got a lead, busted him, got infinity ahead.
Yes, you will have to outplay your opponent from this point. Would be quite an imba game, if after typing gg, but just forgetting to enter and then staying in, you could just go back to normal mode.

The only disgusting thing here are whiny posts like yours.


Gotta agree with this. If you get way behind early you have to do some serious outplaying to catch up and proceed to win. Stop using that game as an excuse to whine.

Despite whatever wolf said JJ didn't mismicro his marines at any point, perhaps he should be punished for trying to put pressure on a zerg that went double hatch before pool, but that's not how I see it.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
July 14 2012 07:51 GMT
#703
On July 14 2012 16:44 nojok wrote:
Wow it's disgusting this game lasted so long. Bad trade, bad macro, bad micro, bad scouting, bad multitasking & still the game lasts so long & whale was in position to take the game at any moment. The only good thing was opening 3 hatch before pool...

Welcome in world of TvZ..
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
July 14 2012 07:51 GMT
#704
On July 14 2012 16:46 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 16:42 Scrubwave wrote:
Amazing Jjakji, though it's disgusting to see how much better the terran has to play to win a tvz. Drops, splits, micro, all this while whale a moves after a moving.


bla bla bla... Whale outplayed him early, got a lead, busted him, got infinity ahead.
Yes, you will have to outplay your opponent from this point. Would be quite an imba game, if after typing gg, but just forgetting to enter and then staying in, you could just go back to normal mode.

The only disgusting thing here are whiny posts like yours.


I thought the entire bust was rather terrible. With that many resources, you could spend it on units that don't suicide, or use your banes far better than Whale did. Great splitting is to be expected from Jjakji, and when Whale killed a relatively small number of SCV's and pre-split bio units, those resources could have been much better spent.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 14 2012 07:51 GMT
#705
i hope its a 6 pool
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 14 2012 07:51 GMT
#706
On July 14 2012 16:51 HaXeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 16:44 nojok wrote:
Wow it's disgusting this game lasted so long. Bad trade, bad macro, bad micro, bad scouting, bad multitasking & still the game lasts so long & whale was in position to take the game at any moment. The only good thing was opening 3 hatch before pool...

Welcome in world of TvZ..


Jjakji didn't play perfect either don't forget how the early game went there is a reason he almost lost. Not due to balance.
When I think of something else, something will go here
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
July 14 2012 07:51 GMT
#707
On July 14 2012 16:48 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 16:46 Big J wrote:
On July 14 2012 16:42 Scrubwave wrote:
Amazing Jjakji, though it's disgusting to see how much better the terran has to play to win a tvz. Drops, splits, micro, all this while whale a moves after a moving.


bla bla bla... Whale outplayed him early, got a lead, busted him, got infinity ahead.
Yes, you will have to outplay your opponent from this point. Would be quite an imba game, if after typing gg, but just forgetting to enter and then staying in, you could just go back to normal mode.

The only disgusting thing here are whiny posts like yours.


Gotta agree with this. If you get way behind early you have to do some serious outplaying to catch up and proceed to win. Stop using that game as an excuse to whine.

Well, in Jjakji's defense, not getting behind against the queen build is quite hard, right now. You are either drowning in a sea of creep or trying your luck with marine pressure that might fail anyway (six queens transfusing each other with ling support are not exactly easy to take down at that stage).
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 14 2012 07:52 GMT
#708
On July 14 2012 16:51 HaXeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 16:44 nojok wrote:
Wow it's disgusting this game lasted so long. Bad trade, bad macro, bad micro, bad scouting, bad multitasking & still the game lasts so long & whale was in position to take the game at any moment. The only good thing was opening 3 hatch before pool...

Welcome in world of TvZ..


Whale scouted JJ 3rd base really late. Whale fucked up and got seriously outplayed.
blah blah blah...
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 07:53:31
July 14 2012 07:52 GMT
#709
"Game. Number. 7... uhh number 8"

EDIT: FXO.CHEERIOS
133 221 333 123 111
Chrian
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1472 Posts
July 14 2012 07:53 GMT
#710
Why do people still extractor trick!?!?!?!
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
July 14 2012 07:53 GMT
#711
TvZ isn't so imbalanced that code B players can win against Jjakji. He's a team league monster....
GuMiho <3
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 14 2012 07:54 GMT
#712
JJakji will smash this kid and then Choya will come out in game 9 and clutch it
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 14 2012 07:54 GMT
#713
On July 14 2012 16:53 Chrian wrote:
Why do people still extractor trick!?!?!?!


It's possible he forgot to do overlord on 9 or he's stubborn. One of the two!
When I think of something else, something will go here
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 14 2012 07:55 GMT
#714
On July 14 2012 16:50 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 16:48 Big J wrote:
On July 14 2012 16:45 valium wrote:
when you are ahead, build ultras and lose.

never has a lame joke been so true


well, then don't build them. Every zerg says they are shit. Their own fault if they still build them. There are alternatives...


Tbh ultras were bad but now of days I don't think they are. I don't really see zergs complaining about them being bad anymore either. I don't think they are as strong as bl/corruptor/infestor obviously but still pretty strong. I do think eventually you will want to transition into broodlords but they definitely aren't bad ^^ (except for zvp they are bad, have a small window where they are pretty good I feel in a normal game then need to switch out of them or you will lose)


Well, I don't think Ultras are a bad unit, but I think that Zergs throw games away through using them, like in this game:
against mass bio with mech support that is on good upgrades and has good medivac counts.
Basically, it is the medivac count imo, that destroys ultras. The spread out units block the movement, and therefore they dont get the splash in, but they also dont overrun the first few units, because each of them has a personal medivac and it comes down to Ultras needing like 4-5hits to kill a single marine.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 14 2012 07:55 GMT
#715
On July 14 2012 16:54 Havik_ wrote:
JJakji will smash this kid and then Choya will come out in game 9 and clutch it


Would be amazing, but I think Choya isn't that crazy.

Will be Tear.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
July 14 2012 07:55 GMT
#716
In before Sirius crushes Jjajki. ^^
eSports for life.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 14 2012 07:56 GMT
#717
Jjakji was traumatised by an overlord in his youth, now he vows to hunt down and exterminate every overlord he sees.
Glorious SEA doto
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
July 14 2012 07:56 GMT
#718
On July 14 2012 16:52 GenesisX wrote:
"Game. Number. 7... uhh number 8"

EDIT: FXO.CHEERIOS

Hahah. Cannot unhear that.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 14 2012 07:56 GMT
#719
On July 14 2012 16:55 Ksquared wrote:
In before Sirius crushes Jjajki. ^^

I don't think JJ will lose on Ohana, it's a decent map for terran, at least 10 times better than Muspelheim.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 07:59:41
July 14 2012 07:59 GMT
#720
adsaf wrong thread
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