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On July 12 2012 18:29 MangoMountain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 18:27 Talack wrote: People whining about the neutral depot, common those bunkers should have never gone up. There was like 100000 things that nestea could have done to prevent it and he messed it up. Every decent map has a neutral depot there to prevent nonsense like that, why would you assume that a map suddenly doesn't have one. It wasn't about the bunkers completing, nestea was dead once they blocked off the ramp
Neutral depots started a long time ago because of the prevalence and imbalanced power of bunker blocks (and to a lesser extent pylon blocks). Neither of those is as ridiculously powerful any more and I assume the map maker didn't want to block a legitimate build, even if it is an aggressive one. Not every game needs to be a macro one.
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Lack of neutral depot is fine.
Real problem here is that SCV movement while construction is totally random.
Just because random number generator decided to place the SCV into that tucked in osotion, Nestea couldn't kill the SCV.
Most everything in game is deterministic, but this is not.
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wish i could watch the games >_<
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On July 12 2012 18:32 mrtomjones wrote:They didn't spoil game of thrones unless you havn't watched or read any of it.
and if you read it you can't be spoilt anyway
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On July 12 2012 18:31 Thrombozyt wrote: And so it shall be known, that tasteless hasn't read the books.
"You know nothing, Tasteless."
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Banshees + raven into being killed by mutalisks or infestors.
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On July 12 2012 18:31 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 18:29 Jono7272 wrote:On July 12 2012 18:28 Tsubbi wrote:On July 12 2012 18:26 KiNGxXx wrote: Stop whining about neutral depot! Scouts proxy, can't stop bunkers, his fault! no its considered imbalanced, thats why EVERY competitive map has a depot down there, seriously why does metropolis not have one? Lol.. He should have been ready for it, even if you consider it imbalanced. You can't be ready for something you didn't expect. If you patrol a drone at the ramp, it can be killed by 3 scvs straight away or the moment it moves 2 bunkers get dropped. Bunker block IS imbalanced and unstoppable unless you put 3 drones at the ramp every single game. Well he should expect it.. It could have easily been stopped. Nestea should know there isn't a neutral depot. Stop whining.
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On July 12 2012 18:29 MangoMountain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 18:27 Talack wrote: People whining about the neutral depot, common those bunkers should have never gone up. There was like 100000 things that nestea could have done to prevent it and he messed it up. Every decent map has a neutral depot there to prevent nonsense like that, why would you assume that a map suddenly doesn't have one. It wasn't about the bunkers completing, nestea was dead once they blocked off the ramp But this map already has a rush distance of 10 minutes, that makes the neutral depot useless ffs. The depot isn't here so players can be lazy, the depot is here because it's imbalanced when the rush distance is low.
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On July 12 2012 18:27 JunkkaGom wrote: Metropolis never had nuetral depot...
Why not? Why doesn't the argument for all the other maps apply to Metropolis?
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opterown
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nice hellions@!!!!!! take that, six queen!
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Artosis is in some fringe minority that actually likes "Joffrey".
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When a strategy that shouldn't even be doable is doable, you do NOT expect it as a pro-gamer, the only counter to this strategy is mass blocking with drones, however that is not easily doable, and if he doesn't do it it would count as you overreacting.
There should be a neutral supply depot, and if NesTea doesn't win, its not gonna be fair, because even though Byun just used the map, its not a balanced design.
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13 drones killed already.
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I can just hear Idra laughing about how hellions are still useful
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Er, were the casters the only ones in the dark about how bad that was for nestea ._.
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5 range queens? no problem. lol
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On July 12 2012 18:33 julianto wrote: Artosis is in some fringe minority that actually likes "Joffrey".
I like joff
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opterown
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On July 12 2012 18:33 Hiea wrote: When a strategy that shouldn't even be doable is doable, you do NOT expect it as a pro-gamer, the only counter to this strategy is mass blocking with drones, however that is not easily doable, and if he doesn't do it it would count as you overreacting.
There should be a neutral supply depot, and if NesTea doesn't win, its not gonna be fair, because even though Byun just used the map, its not a balanced design. metropolis is one of the most imbalanced maps in the pool - check the stats
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Oh come on nestea, 4 hellions don't do that much even in my midmasters games...
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