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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
July 12 2012 09:32 GMT
#941
On July 12 2012 18:29 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 18:27 Talack wrote:
People whining about the neutral depot, common those bunkers should have never gone up. There was like 100000 things that nestea could have done to prevent it and he messed it up.

Every decent map has a neutral depot there to prevent nonsense like that, why would you assume that a map suddenly doesn't have one. It wasn't about the bunkers completing, nestea was dead once they blocked off the ramp


Neutral depots started a long time ago because of the prevalence and imbalanced power of bunker blocks (and to a lesser extent pylon blocks). Neither of those is as ridiculously powerful any more and I assume the map maker didn't want to block a legitimate build, even if it is an aggressive one. Not every game needs to be a macro one.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 12 2012 09:32 GMT
#942
Lack of neutral depot is fine.

Real problem here is that SCV movement while construction is totally random.

Just because random number generator decided to place the SCV into that tucked in osotion, Nestea couldn't kill the SCV.

Most everything in game is deterministic, but this is not.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 12 2012 09:32 GMT
#943
wish i could watch the games >_<
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 12 2012 09:32 GMT
#944
On July 12 2012 18:32 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 18:31 M7Jagger wrote:
STOP SPOILING FFS!!!!!!

They didn't spoil game of thrones unless you havn't watched or read any of it.


and if you read it you can't be spoilt anyway
Sherlock-Canada
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada269 Posts
July 12 2012 09:32 GMT
#945
On July 12 2012 18:31 Thrombozyt wrote:
And so it shall be known, that tasteless hasn't read the books.


"You know nothing, Tasteless."
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
July 12 2012 09:32 GMT
#946
Banshees + raven into being killed by mutalisks or infestors.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#947
On July 12 2012 18:31 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 18:29 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 12 2012 18:28 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 12 2012 18:26 KiNGxXx wrote:
Stop whining about neutral depot! Scouts proxy, can't stop bunkers, his fault!


no its considered imbalanced, thats why EVERY competitive map has a depot down there, seriously why does metropolis not have one?

Lol.. He should have been ready for it, even if you consider it imbalanced.

You can't be ready for something you didn't expect. If you patrol a drone at the ramp, it can be killed by 3 scvs straight away or the moment it moves 2 bunkers get dropped. Bunker block IS imbalanced and unstoppable unless you put 3 drones at the ramp every single game.

Well he should expect it.. It could have easily been stopped. Nestea should know there isn't a neutral depot. Stop whining.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 09:33:19
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#948
On July 12 2012 18:29 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 18:27 Talack wrote:
People whining about the neutral depot, common those bunkers should have never gone up. There was like 100000 things that nestea could have done to prevent it and he messed it up.

Every decent map has a neutral depot there to prevent nonsense like that, why would you assume that a map suddenly doesn't have one. It wasn't about the bunkers completing, nestea was dead once they blocked off the ramp

But this map already has a rush distance of 10 minutes, that makes the neutral depot useless ffs. The depot isn't here so players can be lazy, the depot is here because it's imbalanced when the rush distance is low.
chawinski
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia99 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#949
On July 12 2012 18:27 JunkkaGom wrote:
Metropolis never had nuetral depot...


Why not? Why doesn't the argument for all the other maps apply to Metropolis?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#950
nice hellions@!!!!!!
take that, six queen!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#951
Artosis is in some fringe minority that actually likes "Joffrey".
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#952
When a strategy that shouldn't even be doable is doable, you do NOT expect it as a pro-gamer, the only counter to this strategy is mass blocking with drones, however that is not easily doable, and if he doesn't do it it would count as you overreacting.

There should be a neutral supply depot, and if NesTea doesn't win, its not gonna be fair, because even though Byun just used the map, its not a balanced design.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#953
13 drones killed already.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#954
I can just hear Idra laughing about how hellions are still useful
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#955
Er, were the casters the only ones in the dark about how bad that was for nestea ._.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#956
5 range queens? no problem. lol
Mmm, what to watch.
Gumbotwins
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#957
Nerf helions! XD
Polt, MMA, MVP. Terran triforce!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 12 2012 09:33 GMT
#958
On July 12 2012 18:33 julianto wrote:
Artosis is in some fringe minority that actually likes "Joffrey".


I like joff
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 12 2012 09:34 GMT
#959
On July 12 2012 18:33 Hiea wrote:
When a strategy that shouldn't even be doable is doable, you do NOT expect it as a pro-gamer, the only counter to this strategy is mass blocking with drones, however that is not easily doable, and if he doesn't do it it would count as you overreacting.

There should be a neutral supply depot, and if NesTea doesn't win, its not gonna be fair, because even though Byun just used the map, its not a balanced design.

metropolis is one of the most imbalanced maps in the pool - check the stats
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
July 12 2012 09:34 GMT
#960
Oh come on nestea, 4 hellions don't do that much even in my midmasters games...
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