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hehehe Happy dropping the truth bomb. wp = fuck you you suck!!
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I admit I havent been following the sc2 metagame and balancing the past few months because of schools but how the hell does mvp lose to monchi? how were the games
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You can't say there's no consistency, I mean DRG for example has been in the finals of the past 4 MLG's he has attended, so he's obviously doing something better than everyone else.
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On July 07 2012 05:54 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:52 Whatson wrote:On July 07 2012 05:51 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:49 Swiv wrote:On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:
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I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is. maybe random foreigners are good as well`? Nah. Impossible. Seriously though, this community is impossible to please. Have a tournament with top 8 only koreans, "omg no foreigners make the game boring". Have a foreigner pull an upset vs one of the best koreans "omg foreigners taking games off koreans make the game boring". Can't please everyone... You're only insulting yourself by saying the community is impossible to please. What? Explain this logic to me.
Unless you don't consider yourself part of the SC2 community
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Artosis and Apollo must be shaking in their boots after Happy's casting.
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On July 07 2012 05:52 Saronix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:48 MCDayC wrote:On July 07 2012 05:47 Euronyme wrote:
My mind is fucking blown by that rock paper scissor championship I know man. And there were people who consistently placed high as well. How does someone be consistent at rock-paper-scissors. I read an article on how to be decent at it and beat my wife like 6-0. apparently Humans suck at being random so scissors is least played and rock is statistically most played (by males) so it's safe to go paper usually when in doubt. Also playing the item that your opponent would have beaten you with his previous move tends to win. If an opponent goes for the same choice 2x in a row the chance of him giving it a 3rd try is extremely low as he is "trying to be random" as opposed to actually being random.
Sounds awesome :p do you have a link to said article?
MentalGNT rock-paper-scissors bonjwa 2013
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On July 07 2012 05:52 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
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I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is. To all those STILL whining about it; imagine a tournament with no upsets. MVP would win everything he entered and it'd be kind of cool for a while but then it'd get reeeeeal dull.
Personally I'd be quite happy if MVP was playing good. Nothing annoys me more than when the worse player(of the current game) wins, especially when it's just a split second miscontrol that is insurmountable(such as FG).
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I don't think people should be getting so mad at SC2 for that MVP series he lost. He should of scouted that hidden third, you would never see a repeating OSL/MSL BW pro not scout that against some barely known BW player.
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On July 07 2012 05:52 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
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I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him. Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot. I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is. To all those STILL whining about it; imagine a tournament with no upsets. MVP would win everything he entered and it'd be kind of cool for a while but then it'd get reeeeeal dull.
No, because there would be other players who are actually good who could take games off of him. For every flash, there is a fantasy/jangbi/etc. There doesn't have to be 1 dominant player who wins everything, but a group of elite players that everyone tries to reach and eventually surpass. That is much more interesting than a handful of guys at the top that usually win stuff but randomly drop series to people that have never accomplished anything and disappear after their 5 minutes of fame.
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On July 07 2012 05:54 AsnSensation wrote:
I admit I havent been following the sc2 metagame and balancing the past few months because of schools but how the hell does mvp lose to monchi? how were the games
Monchi simply played better
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Lol, dimaga and happy.. :D
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On July 07 2012 05:54 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:54 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:52 Whatson wrote:On July 07 2012 05:51 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:49 Swiv wrote:On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:
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I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is. maybe random foreigners are good as well`? Nah. Impossible. Seriously though, this community is impossible to please. Have a tournament with top 8 only koreans, "omg no foreigners make the game boring". Have a foreigner pull an upset vs one of the best koreans "omg foreigners taking games off koreans make the game boring". Can't please everyone... You're only insulting yourself by saying the community is impossible to please. What? Explain this logic to me. Unless you don't consider yourself part of the SC2 community
What does that have to do with my point whatsoever?
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On July 07 2012 05:54 Iyerbeth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:53 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:52 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:50 Iyerbeth wrote:Group G:  sLivko VS  DBS
Game 2Map - GSL  Atlantis SpaceshipsLivko - 8 o'clock spawn. DBS - 12 o'clock spawn. Best of 3 score:sLivko 1 - DBS 0 CC first from DBS. 2 Hatches first from sLivko before Pool. Factory and Reactor from DBS. 2 Queens from sLivko and gas taken. 3rd CC incoming for DBS. 2 more Queens (4) for sLivko. Starport incoming too.
Speed started for Lings.
Banshee incoming for DBS, no cloak.
Roach Warren, Baneling nest and double Evo for sLivko.
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On July 07 2012 05:55 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:54 Whatson wrote:On July 07 2012 05:54 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:52 Whatson wrote:On July 07 2012 05:51 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:49 Swiv wrote:On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:
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Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is. maybe random foreigners are good as well`? Nah. Impossible. Seriously though, this community is impossible to please. Have a tournament with top 8 only koreans, "omg no foreigners make the game boring". Have a foreigner pull an upset vs one of the best koreans "omg foreigners taking games off koreans make the game boring". Can't please everyone... You're only insulting yourself by saying the community is impossible to please. What? Explain this logic to me. Unless you don't consider yourself part of the SC2 community What does that have to do with my point whatsoever?
...never mind...
it's not worth explaining to you...
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On July 07 2012 05:51 Calis5 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:49 Swiv wrote:On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:
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Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.
I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed. Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks. I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either. I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments. Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry... The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have. And I say this as a huge Mvp fan. Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming. Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is. maybe random foreigners are good as well`? Or maybe this game has a low skill cap where exceptional players cant really stand out?
But exceptional players are standing out. That's indicted by the giant shit fit on this LR thread after Mvp lost. Everyone was really surprised he lost because we know Mvp usually wins because he's an exceptionally good player. All of this complaining proves there are exceptional players. If there weren't any then we'd never be surprised when a monchi beat an mvp.
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On July 07 2012 05:55 MentalGNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:52 Saronix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:48 MCDayC wrote:On July 07 2012 05:47 Euronyme wrote:
My mind is fucking blown by that rock paper scissor championship I know man. And there were people who consistently placed high as well. How does someone be consistent at rock-paper-scissors. I read an article on how to be decent at it and beat my wife like 6-0. apparently Humans suck at being random so scissors is least played and rock is statistically most played (by males) so it's safe to go paper usually when in doubt. Also playing the item that your opponent would have beaten you with his previous move tends to win. If an opponent goes for the same choice 2x in a row the chance of him giving it a 3rd try is extremely low as he is "trying to be random" as opposed to actually being random. Sounds awesome :p do you have a link to said article? MentalGNT rock-paper-scissors bonjwa 2013
Can you imagine the LR threads for rock-paper-scissors?
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On July 07 2012 05:55 Iyerbeth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:54 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:53 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:52 Iyerbeth wrote:On July 07 2012 05:50 Iyerbeth wrote:Group G: sLivko VS DBS
Game 2Map - GSL Atlantis SpaceshipsLivko - 8 o'clock spawn. DBS - 12 o'clock spawn. Best of 3 score:sLivko 1 - DBS 0 CC first from DBS. 2 Hatches first from sLivko before Pool. Factory and Reactor from DBS. 2 Queens from sLivko and gas taken. 3rd CC incoming for DBS. 2 more Queens (4) for sLivko. Starport incoming too. Speed started for Lings. Banshee incoming for DBS, no cloak. Roach Warren, Baneling nest and double Evo for sLivko.
Spores up before Banshee gets to the main.
hellions go in to third at the same time but immediately attacked by sLivko.
6 Drones killed total.
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Can anyone tell what's the story behind everyone tolling about @LiquidRet or give a link where this joke was born?
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On July 07 2012 05:56 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:55 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:52 Saronix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:48 MCDayC wrote:On July 07 2012 05:47 Euronyme wrote:
My mind is fucking blown by that rock paper scissor championship I know man. And there were people who consistently placed high as well. How does someone be consistent at rock-paper-scissors. I read an article on how to be decent at it and beat my wife like 6-0. apparently Humans suck at being random so scissors is least played and rock is statistically most played (by males) so it's safe to go paper usually when in doubt. Also playing the item that your opponent would have beaten you with his previous move tends to win. If an opponent goes for the same choice 2x in a row the chance of him giving it a 3rd try is extremely low as he is "trying to be random" as opposed to actually being random. Sounds awesome :p do you have a link to said article? MentalGNT rock-paper-scissors bonjwa 2013 Can you imagine the LR threads for rock-paper-scissors?
Fucking paper imba. Shit game.
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On July 07 2012 05:56 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2012 05:55 MentalGNT wrote:On July 07 2012 05:52 Saronix wrote:On July 07 2012 05:48 MCDayC wrote:On July 07 2012 05:47 Euronyme wrote:
My mind is fucking blown by that rock paper scissor championship I know man. And there were people who consistently placed high as well. How does someone be consistent at rock-paper-scissors. I read an article on how to be decent at it and beat my wife like 6-0. apparently Humans suck at being random so scissors is least played and rock is statistically most played (by males) so it's safe to go paper usually when in doubt. Also playing the item that your opponent would have beaten you with his previous move tends to win. If an opponent goes for the same choice 2x in a row the chance of him giving it a 3rd try is extremely low as he is "trying to be random" as opposed to actually being random. Sounds awesome :p do you have a link to said article? MentalGNT rock-paper-scissors bonjwa 2013 Can you imagine the LR threads for rock-paper-scissors?
The hatred toward the other possibilities would be even higher than in sc
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