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On July 06 2012 20:47 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:45 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:44 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 AxionSteel wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
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I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP So what? Doesn't make him the "stronger player and always has been". the guy said Coca is an MKP killer, its true. No. He said Coca is and always was the better player. Not that he has a good h2h score. That's a big differance I said "Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer" you really got to stop twisting my words to bullshit. Its even in your quote. Lol you said nothing about head to head, just that he's always been "stronger".
WTf? Are you trolling? Cause all you have to do is expand that quote dude. Ahh why do I care. Results and the previous game has proved it.
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non proxy 11/11 with cross, not so cool for maru
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Where dat snitch at?36920 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:47 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:45 herbie wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 herbie wrote:On July 06 2012 20:37 namste wrote:On July 06 2012 20:36 parazice wrote:
since when SlayerS become Zerg Team ??? LOL When Terran stopped winning every team became the Zerg team, except Prime who have the worst zergs compared to others. Slayers dedicated a whole room in their training house for zergs when they saw the way the game was going. Oh wow... I hope you are joking. Since everyone can find the video you know. Slayers picked up a tonne of b-teamer Zergs recently, as have most Korean teams. Go find the videos. KDY. That's not a tonne.
KDY
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On July 06 2012 20:47 Inhumane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:46 Serinox wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 Inhumane wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 Serinox wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 Xpace wrote:On July 06 2012 20:33 SeeKeR wrote:On July 06 2012 20:33 DwD wrote:Damn it Coca I wanna see Eve  I'm sure we would see Clide before we see Eve If Coca had lost to MKP, shit would have gotten real for SlayerS. JYP/Puzzle/Puma for sure, one of these guys are ready for MKP. But since SlayerS is up 4-1, with MKP/Creator/B(BB4^Bf(x)*2) knocked out... there's a much higher chance to see Eve if Maru beats Coca. She's not on the roster. She's just decoration here. Just because she wasn't listed at the start of the show in SlayerS' lineup, doesn't mean she can't play. Actually, not being being listed on the roster means you can't play. Teams submit their roster before the season starts and the roster lineup they show at the start of the show just shows the players who are on the bench. MMA and ThorZaIN weren't listed at the start of the show but of course they could play if they were there.
Yeah, they could. Because they are in the roster and in the line-up. Eve is neither.
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Btw what's happening right now guys ?
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On July 06 2012 20:47 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:45 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:44 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 AxionSteel wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:
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I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP So what? Doesn't make him the "stronger player and always has been". the guy said Coca is an MKP killer, its true. No. He said Coca is and always was the better player. Not that he has a good h2h score. That's a big differance I said "Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer" you really got to stop twisting my words to bullshit. Its even in your quote. Lol you said nothing about head to head, just that he's always been "stronger".
When he says Coca is an MKP killer, it implies h2h. You ignore his first statement which sets the context for the second. Not that hard dude.
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On July 06 2012 20:42 Orek wrote:
Watching this and some other TvZ, I feel like it is more about Zerg players rediscovering how multiple queens are good rather than the mere fact queens now have +2 range.
If Terran continue to complain, I would love to see queen range back to 3.
Yeah, it will be harder for Zerg, but I feel like Zerg will still continue to make more queens than before the patch in May.
+60 shield raised awareness of warpprism. Even if Blizzard take those 60 shield away from protoss now, protoss won't stop using warpprism.
What changed in patch is probably not as important as the FACT it changed and players read that patch note.
I think the range is still a key factor. Zerg can afford to skip early gas relatively safely, whereas before it was possible to kite and evade queens. Spanishiwa introduced queen-heavy openers for zergs a long time ago, but pros found holes in the builds, unsafe windows where hellions could poke without being poked back and just wear out the queen defense without actually trading hits. At 5 range the Queens are doing damage back, which makes a world of difference when you've got great control on both sides.
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On July 06 2012 20:47 NuclearJudas wrote:Moral support.
Might as well just give her Pom-Poms.
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On July 06 2012 20:49 Ragnarork wrote:
Btw what's happening right now guys ?
Some people are playing Starcraft
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On July 06 2012 20:48 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:47 Inhumane wrote:On July 06 2012 20:46 Serinox wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 Inhumane wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 Serinox wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 Xpace wrote:On July 06 2012 20:33 SeeKeR wrote:On July 06 2012 20:33 DwD wrote:Damn it Coca I wanna see Eve I'm sure we would see Clide before we see Eve If Coca had lost to MKP, shit would have gotten real for SlayerS. JYP/Puzzle/Puma for sure, one of these guys are ready for MKP. But since SlayerS is up 4-1, with MKP/Creator/B(BB4^Bf(x)*2) knocked out... there's a much higher chance to see Eve if Maru beats Coca. She's not on the roster. She's just decoration here. Just because she wasn't listed at the start of the show in SlayerS' lineup, doesn't mean she can't play. Actually, not being being listed on the roster means you can't play. Teams submit their roster before the season starts and the roster lineup they show at the start of the show just shows the players who are on the bench. MMA and ThorZaIN weren't listed at the start of the show but of course they could play if they were there. Yeah, they could. Because they are in the roster and in the line-up. Eve is neither.
How do you know?
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On July 06 2012 20:49 HeroMystic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:47 NuclearJudas wrote:On July 06 2012 20:46 ThePlayer33 wrote:
HOW COME EVE is not on the lineup!? Moral support. Might as well just give her Pom-Poms.
She's got a nice set of them already.
Wait, what?
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On July 06 2012 20:49 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:47 AxionSteel wrote:On July 06 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:45 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:44 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 AxionSteel wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:
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Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS
Whats the point for terran to even play?
They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm).
It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP So what? Doesn't make him the "stronger player and always has been". the guy said Coca is an MKP killer, its true. No. He said Coca is and always was the better player. Not that he has a good h2h score. That's a big differance I said "Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer" you really got to stop twisting my words to bullshit. Its even in your quote. Lol you said nothing about head to head, just that he's always been "stronger". When he says Coca is an MKP killer, it implies h2h. You ignore his first statement which sets the context for the second. Not that hard dude.
Thank you for backing me up. It's hilarious how choosy they are with their word picking though
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On July 06 2012 20:42 Orek wrote:
Watching this and some other TvZ, I feel like it is more about Zerg players rediscovering how multiple queens are good rather than the mere fact queens now have +2 range.
If Terran continue to complain, I would love to see queen range back to 3.
Yeah, it will be harder for Zerg, but I feel like Zerg will still continue to make more queens than before the patch in May.
+60 shield raised awareness of warpprism. Even if Blizzard take those 60 shield away from protoss now, protoss won't stop using warpprism.
What changed in patch is probably not as important as the FACT it changed and players read that patch note.
No Hellions could kite before and still kill drones and force roach or lots of lings. Now cant. +2 is drastic.
Similarly Stalkers can't kite anymore and force units but immortal 2 base all in is still deadly..terran seems to have discovered nothing similar yet.
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On July 06 2012 20:47 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 20:46 KiNGxXx wrote:On July 06 2012 20:43 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On July 06 2012 20:41 KingPaddy wrote:On July 06 2012 20:39 ImNightmare wrote:On July 06 2012 20:38 adiga wrote:On July 06 2012 20:28 Ragnarork wrote:On July 06 2012 20:27 adiga wrote:
ammmmmmmmmmm this game is BS ok? ok.
I don't even know why I still watch this BS I'm Terran, ok ? I still have difficulties considering the Queens buff correctly, but Queens doesn't make walling off impossible, RIGHT ? Would that matter? getting a ton of enffestors, ton of broodlords, ton of banelings + the tech with 3 bases really? this is just BS Whats the point for terran to even play? They are supposed to be strong at the early game but after all the patchs terran are no longer can do SHIT against zergs or protoss at the early game unless you go for a cheese. Even bllizard admits that TVP is a race against time and you are basically fucked if you can't hurt the protoss play at the early(that again terran are soooo weak atm). It's not that Queen buff that made the change it's the mindset that now changed for zerg players who feel comfortable at the early and they get the economy going super fast. Way to spoil Coca's accomplishment of being a MKP-killer with your balance whine. Coca IS stronger then MKP. Past and present. Pre-patch and after-patch Haha.. what? What's your data for that? Results? well if we are talking about head to head, Coca has always owned MKP Ahhh terran/prime fanboys. They just can't admit it. Why is everyone a fanboy just for having another opinion? No one can really say Coca is better than MKP when you look at their achievements. Coca has won some weeklys, while MKP won international tournaments and did well in GSL. Did you watch fightclub?? Like just recently??
Yes, I watched it. Doesn't make him a better player. MMA isn't better than Mvp only cause he won more head-to-head. There is no point is discussion with you if you don't understand that.
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BIIIIIIIIT BYYYYYYYYY BIIIIIIIIIIT
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On July 06 2012 20:49 Ragnarork wrote:
Btw what's happening right now guys ?
Cross spawn entombed, hatch first vs 12/12 rax at Maru's natural.
And...he just pulled a bunch of scv's
Amazing surround on the marines with the drones!
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Wowowowow, CoCa. Amazing marine snipes.
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